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Something
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Also One of my main reasons for wanting to do this. Last years Bonnaroo I had a experiance that was unfathomable in my opinion.And I feel that type of experience should be with those you feel kindred to.
Bonnaroo was the wrong place yet I did not realize what I had done till the wheel started spinning. It scared me that others where around who may not understood. But it was a sacred experience. And for that I am thankful.
You can find that post at "Weird Trip story" . I'm still adding but thats the main picture
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Asante
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Re: To the otherside [Re: Something]
#5433063 - 03/23/06 06:01 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Okay so what you all are saying is. Maximum dose no more than a ounce
Cubies contain 3-12mg Psilocybin equivalents, 6mg/gr on average.
One ounce = 28 grams = 84-336mg psilocybin (~168mg on average)
The usual ratio of psilocybin use is 5-30mg, with 10-20mg as the universally accepted standard. You are talkinbg about a dose that's roughly twelve times as high.
The average Shroomery member (an average across 1.200 people participating) uses 2.34gr of Cubies for a trip. (7-28mg ~14mg) What makes you think a dose twelve times higher is a good idea.
We are not as much talking about bad trips as we're talking about getting *hurt* here.
If we take that "maximum safe dose" of literature as the ultimate maximum dose then the ultimate maximum anyone should take would be 12.5 grams of dried Cubies. This is double the amount most people can handle (and I mean handle) twice the amount even a few would choose to take, two and a half times Terence McKenna's "heroic dose" about four times the 1/8oz most people consider to be HARD tripping and over 5 times more than the average dose measured across 1.200 users.
So no, we don't mean one ounce tops. Either you have a serious tolerance, have had some weak mushrooms compared to the rest of us, or things are bound to get extremely intense should you decide to embark on one ounce. Nobody is saying an ounce is OK.
EDIT: I'm not trying to fight you with this barrage of numbers but to prevent you and others from paying dearly by biting off more than you can chew.
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Edited by Asante (03/23/06 06:03 AM)
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Something
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Re: To the otherside [Re: Asante]
#5437730 - 03/24/06 09:51 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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You say you hope my mind can Handle it but my concern is more the body.For it is the vessel.And like ships in a bottle.We look to the horizon or as some call it edge ......Yet it is more the vessel than it is the mode of moving through its time.
Space As And Has Ripples.But the girls just call the curves.
Bless The Mother !!
Edited by Something (03/24/06 09:52 AM)
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tomekk
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Re: To the otherside [Re: Something]
#5437786 - 03/24/06 10:14 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Something said: You say you hope my mind can Handle it but my concern is more the body.For it is the vessel.And like ships in a bottle.We look to the horizon or as some call it edge ......Yet it is more the vessel than it is the mode of moving through its time.
Space As And Has Ripples.But the girls just call the curves.
Bless The Mother !!
what use is the vessel without a captain steering it? I don't think you know what you are getting yourself into. Don't mess with a force much greater than yourself. Good luck.
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LedHead
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Re: To the otherside [Re: tomekk]
#5438826 - 03/24/06 04:11 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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this guy is asking for it...
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Something
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Re: To the otherside [Re: LedHead]
#5439203 - 03/24/06 06:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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this guy is asking for it... I received it as well. And it was good
I was thinking this place had more of a open view but I guess not.
I have caught slack for my beliefs over the years and you know what I am still holding to those and I have.For this is who I am.
There should be a place for people like me and I guess it ain't here
Maybe I should just keep my beliefs within the circle I call friends.
Edited by Something (03/24/06 06:30 PM)
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sever
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Re: To the otherside *DELETED* [Re: Something]
#5439442 - 03/24/06 08:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Edited by sever (07/17/06 02:31 PM)
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sever
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Re: To the otherside [Re: sever]
#5439455 - 03/24/06 08:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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But a noble effort I might add
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Silent_Vinny
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Re: To the otherside [Re: Something]
#5439511 - 03/24/06 08:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sounds to me like you've already went through some heavy, high dosage trips..where the bad sometimes get inevitable, where one must cope and zoom.
No one knows you well enough here...hopefully your friends know you well enough and they are contributing input.
All I can say is, if you feel like you havn't got to where you beleive you really could go with mushrooms, then dump them in a popcorn bowl and make your mark.
People have taken heavy dosages before, obviously...God only knows how much. They all comeback. AS will you.
My suggestion for ya: Firstly, I think it's a great idea to film yourself eating the huge bowl of shroom....however fast you can withstand the tingle ruanch taste...you have someone ask you questions...have yourself talk about what you're feeling..keeping eating them untill you get in it.....I'm sure it will be quite a bit. It'd be fun to watch.
You wouldn't remember much of it..but I'm sure what you do, it will stand out.
But unexplained...like everything else.
TO each his own.
Me personally..I've hit some heavy dosages..and have always looped over the twisted mind fuck that convinces (tricks) my mind into believing that their is no end, i can't remember how I got here, but I'm here..and my life is zooming by all fucked up like, to confusing, impossible to control, impossible to get out.
But thats me..I've always hated life's harsh realities that are to blatant, and sometimes impossible to ignore..I find myself dwelling in it, probably because of my own harsh reality..the fact that I have selected friends, a bunch that I miss because my parents have moved around a bunch during my childhood...also the strict christian father that feeds me the negative shiit..hell and satan..i hate it...I truly believe we could of come up with a better system that teaches those certain people to not do "that". A new way of life is a must. A lotta of people get to brainwashed in it...beleive it's the only way. It's our duty..us that seek change...to get it through to as much people as we can.
Also..I know what you mean when you say you feel like "this" heroic munch is apart of you. Can I ask....
Are you looking at that correctly?...I've experienced a similar feeling on mushrooms where this is me, and it will always be apart of me, throughout my life....but I NEED to DO something..possibly help the ones in confusion.
It's not dosage AMOUNT because u get past a certain number; u reach memory loss, blacking out, and mostly messages and feelings of poisoned confusion.......rather......It's what you Do on whatever amount u have!
Shrooms are a zoom. Munch on a few and go to somewhere and do something you've never done before...you'll get something out of it..because it's new..and it's been documented through a magical state.
I'm sure most heavy dosages are the same as all the recent bad ones. You laying there, under a poison..not understanding shiit...trust me, it's not fun...at least not for me.
Good luck though. Hope you get their and back. I'm sure you will. If your going to dose heavy on any psychedelic, I'd rather it be mushrooms...well, ye weed...but those shrooms, that need to visually be taken can become overwhelming when it's all there in front of you. I'm glad I don't have a reliable hook-up and it's not around me much...because I tend to change my mind a lot...especially when it's sitting their in my desk drawer and I dwell on the potential.
Forget the lie. Trip through time. Change the world. Make it better for us.
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LedHead
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Re: To the otherside [Re: Something]
#5440552 - 03/25/06 10:07 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Something said: this guy is asking for it... I received it as well. And it was good
I was thinking this place had more of a open view but I guess not.
I have caught slack for my beliefs over the years and you know what I am still holding to those and I have.For this is who I am.
There should be a place for people like me and I guess it ain't here
Maybe I should just keep my beliefs within the circle I call friends.
no one is trying to be mean or not aaccept you. the question that arises in everyones mind, is do you know waht the hell you are getting yourself into. 28 grams of dried mushrooms is truly truly epic. as stated by wiccan seeker terrence mckennas heroic dose was at 12 grams or so.... have you ever tried 12 grams or perhaps even a half oz? mushroom intensity goes up exponentially so eating 12 grams is way more than just double the intensity of 6 grams, its like 3 or 4 times stronger i believe or at least ballpark. if the most you have ever done was even say 15 or 16 dried grams which i seriously doubt than bumping it up to 28 is still to big of a jump in my oppion. honestly we are just trying to help
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