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Something
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To the otherside
#5425959 - 03/21/06 03:52 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Is this the right forum for this question?
Just curious if one can actually die from eating to many shrooms at one time.
The reason I'm asking this is I have thought about getting a group of close friends with me a eating till I puke or what not. And video taping the whole thing. I just don't want to place my friends in a situation that they could feel bad about later. You know like my death. I have a friend that is a medic so I should be safe in that respect.And has anyone attempted anything similar?
Edited by Something (03/21/06 03:54 PM)
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Shroomer215
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Re: To the otherside [Re: Something]
#5425995 - 03/21/06 04:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes, even if you have one little cap you will have a fatal death.
There have been many posts asking this same question, the answer is No. It is about 80% of your body weight.
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Something
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Whats about 80% of your body weight? Besides water that is.
Edited by Something (03/21/06 04:28 PM)
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Re: To the otherside [Re: Something]
#5426136 - 03/21/06 04:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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The lethal dose is 80%. Your plan still doesn't sound very safe though.
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Re: To the otherside [Re: Something]
#5426144 - 03/21/06 04:45 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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dude, it is impossible to OD on shrooms, you would have to eat pounds of it. no matter how much you eat, you'll be fine (assuming you mind can handle it).
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Something
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Yeah I kinda guessed that some may feel that attempting such a thing would be rather fool hardy.
Yet what I've thought to myself is that most people never really take what a "shaman" in days of old would have consumed for a spirit journey.I could be wrong but I have not been proven otherwise
I have done extensive trips in my day and just feel this is my path. I don't know how else to explain it
Edited by Something (03/21/06 05:00 PM)
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Shroomer215
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Re: To the otherside [Re: Something]
#5427608 - 03/21/06 09:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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yea sorry i didn't finish that. But you can defiantly handle as much as you can eat, but what it comes down to is, can your mind handle it? Don't forget when you eat mushrooms, the effect is exponential. In other words 1/8 compared to a 1/4 is not just doubled the effect but a substantial amount more
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Something
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I usually eat about a eighth but at times while in a safe environment I'll eat a quarter.And I just posted what happened to me the time I ate close to a half by somewhat accident
Shroomer215 Thank you for the advice
Edited by Something (03/21/06 09:49 PM)
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Re: To the otherside [Re: Something]
#5427741 - 03/21/06 10:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's possible to go into a catatonic state(coma) from eating too many shrooms. But that's if you eat a hell of a lot.
Peacefulness and be careful.
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Sounds like a bad trip. Good luck!
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Re: To the otherside [Re: Something]
#5428182 - 03/21/06 11:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shamans have access to ancient knowledge. Don't ever make the mistake of thinking you are on the same level. Pay attention and you wont need massive amounts of drugs to see their world. Be careful! its not all fun and games out there, I'm dead serious.
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inv3rse
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Your good man. Like everyone else said; don't worry about it unless you stuff your face with them...lol
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Re: To the otherside [Re: inv3rse]
#5428541 - 03/22/06 01:44 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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You have your answer, which is no. I did some calculations for how much a 150 pound person would have to eat to OD, and I came up with about 7 1/2 pounds. I used the LD50 (the dose at which 50% of animals die) of rabbits, which have a much lower tolerance for psiloc(yb)in than rats and mice. That might be why I didn't get 80%. This is all purely academic, though, since it is physically impossible to eat the quantity of mushrooms necessary to OD within the time limit.
Sounds interesting. I don't think I need to tell you that you guys should be prepared for things like your reaction to ego loss/death.. but I just did.  And don't eat them too fast, because if you just puke them right back up, you're just wasting whatever you didn't give time to digest.
And hopefully you're not planning on running for political office, because this tape could be a little damaging if it mysteriously surfaced during your campaign. 
P.S. You probably weren't thinking of posting the video online, or..? If you are, that would be a hoot -- but if you're not, you could always post an audio recording.
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Re: To the otherside [Re: Land_Crab]
#5428664 - 03/22/06 03:19 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Why do people suggest such stupid things? Is it just me or does this sound like I really immature idea "to get fucked up". RESPECT THE MUSHROOMS. It's when people do things like this that they put a bad name on them. No offence this is not a personal attack on you.
Half of me says don't do it, the other half thinks you should so you will learn your lesson. Don't awake the sleeping giant.
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Re: To the otherside [Re: Something]
#5428685 - 03/22/06 04:13 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Just curious if one can actually die from eating to many shrooms at one time. . The reason I'm asking this is I have thought about getting a group of close friends with me a eating till I puke or what not. And video taping the whole thing.
Not exactly wisdom.
The higher the dose gets, the more people either slip into convulsions/blackouts or return with the consequences of psychotraumatic events, such as PTSD.
As for the lethal dose being many pounds: don't count on it.
If you eat a pound or so of dried mushrooms of any sort you might well need emergency surgery to remove the swelling clot of hydrating mushrooms tissues.
If you have no tolerance I'd say eating one ounce dried might well be a dangerous endeavor. As for sources, how about common sense? An injection of 25mg DMT brings a person to the land of flying colors, but 100mg injected induces unconsciousness. Psilocin is one oxygen atom removed from DMT and is very similar in action. On account of it being orally administered the dose-response curve will probably be less steep, but what will happen to a person if he takes a dose several times bigger than the one that couses unconsciousness? With almost any kind of drug this is coma and death.
If "your path" is to become a Fox news scare story about the evils of shrooms, I guess we can't stop you.
The Leary Group used towering doses of LSD. They tried psilocybin pills and were equally impressed with 100mg Psilocybin. This amount is contained in somewhere between 1/4 and 1/2 ounce P.Cub. I read somewhere that the "maximum safe dose" was considered to be 150mg. I don't know why this number was decided upon, but depending on the species this may be contained in 7.5-20gr of mushrooms.
Eating until you puke is the most irresponsible way of use I can think of. It basically guarantees you'll get more than is good for you, because there is a latency between impulse and reflex that may last several minutes, a latency you use by eting more and even more of it.
It is using mushrooms as a deliberate poison, and most people who are into mushrooms *loathe* that mentality.
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Re: To the otherside [Re: Asante]
#5430528 - 03/22/06 03:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I would like to think I pretty good at avoiding bad trips.Mantras work great and being around the right people helps as well
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Re: To the otherside [Re: Something]
#5430728 - 03/22/06 04:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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If ya want a hell of a trip, just go the thumbprint of Acid way......Should be more than enough 
You can go as far as your mind lets you, you could take 1g and be done, let the flow go..........or take a 1/4 and try to fight it. If ya know the right ways of controlling your mind, 1g could take you farther than a 1/4.
Its all in the mind.
BTW i'm not expert, but its rather irresponsible to me.
Edited by demon2091tb (03/22/06 04:35 PM)
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Something
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Re: To the otherside [Re: Something]
#5430762 - 03/22/06 04:42 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well one of the reasons I posed this question was for opinions and honest answers.Plus this idea is only in my formative world. I do not plan on attempting to try to bring a end to my being just yet.  Thats why I'm planning on having a medic medic friend of mine and even possibly a doctor that I know from my circle of friends. I do not plan to go in flying blind.I have had many spiritual experiences and I am approaching this in the same manner. My experiences have been profound. Even to the point that while tripping with others they had the same experience I did yet days later I would remind them of some of the things we saw and they where visibly shaken. Thats one of the reasons I took a ten year break from the whole experience.
And the funny thing is only by happenstance that I came back to this "path".
I'm not some whacked out person stumbling through time. Well maybe I am but I handle each world with to the best of my ability.And from where I stand here today I am proud of my accomplishments both physical and spiritual. I truly feel I have become a more in touch being to those around me.And all because of my experiences. I think thats pretty damn kewl! But that just my opinion.
Okay so what you all are saying is. Maximum dose no more than a ounce and should be eaten slowly? I'm thinking of starting with seven or eight grams then slowly work my way into it.And I'm thinking like a ten hour period that I should have a few sitters with me. And as for eating till I puke.I heard or read some where that it is what one should do. So in turn I have carried that idea with me. Yet with the opinion I received from you all. I'm adjusting my ideas on how to approach this.TY
If I have offended anyone or made them recoil. My apologizes, But blunt questions usually get the straightest of answers.And for that I thank you all.
And Gawd!!! I love it that they have spell check!LOL
You Guys Rawk!
Edited by Something (03/22/06 05:20 PM)
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Re: To the otherside [Re: Something]
#5430783 - 03/22/06 04:45 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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As for acid I do partake.Yet I prefer what the mother gives us. Its more direct. But thats my opinion.
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Re: To the otherside [Re: Something]
#5430802 - 03/22/06 04:49 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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We don't happen to stumble onto things; power guides us. There is no coincidence. A warrior stands on his own feet.
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