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ssjwizard
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advise requested.
#5424803 - 03/21/06 11:18 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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ok so i have a bit of experence groing P.Cubensis but i havent done it in several years. right now im planing a setup to provide myself and my wife with a reasonable supply of mushrooms. we like to take then about once a week sometimes less. anyways im planing to use a 30 gallon opaque rubbermade container with clear lid and mount 2 12" flouresent cabinet lights to the lid. going to cut two holes in the side to mount some thick rubber gloves to so i can avoid un nessicary opening of the box. im thinking of using a 12v 80mm fan mounted to one side for active ventilation using a piece of filter medium on both the inside of the fan intake and the intake on the oposing side of the box. now im living in a desert region in sw usa and we have some prety dangerous molds out here so im going to start with the john allen variety of P.Cubensis. one thing i cant decide is if i want to use cakes or case the entire bottom of the cantainer. also with a setup like this what type of dry yeild would be expected as an average? well any advise or tips you can pass along i greatly apreciate.
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Re: advise requested. [Re: ssjwizard]
#5424816 - 03/21/06 11:22 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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My advise is dont mount any lights inside of your fc, I just tried this and the heat from them delayed pinning, instead of a regular fan use a cool mist humidifier, impellar type.
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Re: advise requested. [Re: ssjwizard]
#5424821 - 03/21/06 11:23 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Search for "mono tubs" and "double tubs". Lately, I've been using small 12qt double tubs with good success. The bigger the tubs, the bigger the yield. Check out my user gallery for pics of my little DT.
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mikeownow
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Re: advise requested. [Re: ssjwizard]
#5424828 - 03/21/06 11:24 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Contamination occurs wile a jar is colonizing once it has made it to the fc your home free. And if you do a cake well lol you really really are home free. You could literaly sprinkle mold spores on it and would more than likely stay contam free, though I may be a little off on that but how much unessessary exposer my cakes got to air and well a really moldy house and they were fine.
I mean sure you can do all that unessesary stuff to ur fc and have a really fancy fc that would be good for poo grows for mass production however you are just going for some trips with your wife thus makeing mass production not a priority.
If I were you I would do a thick rye grow with a peatmoss verm oystershell and lime caseing or just use a bag o jiffy mix. The rye will give you more shrooms than you can even think about eating and is quite simple, look up rye teks I think you will like them.
Also build a tub in tub incubator it is like the best invention ever.
Oh and get a larger tub the bigger the better so that way you never need to upgrade your tub size. I have upgraded my tub 5 times.
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Edited by mikeownow (03/21/06 11:25 AM)
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ssjwizard
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Re: advise requested. [Re: MindsEye]
#5424835 - 03/21/06 11:24 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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im not farmiliar with the humidifier you speek of. could you prehaps provide a link for me so i can check them out. im tring to keep this low budget for now but of course any great setup is worth the investment.
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Re: advise requested. [Re: FooMan]
#5424839 - 03/21/06 11:25 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Daamn fooman, those are some nice grows.
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Re: advise requested. [Re: ssjwizard]
#5424849 - 03/21/06 11:27 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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heres a link to one, you can buy them new for 20 bucks, thrift stores often have them used for around 5 bucks. http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/sr=...asin=B000067EHI
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ssjwizard
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Re: advise requested. [Re: MindsEye]
#5424868 - 03/21/06 11:32 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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oh ok, just a normal non heated humidifier. i dont know why that confused me so much. i think i have a rather large one around here but it may actualy be to large for this use. def apreciate the advise. so would it be safe to say id be able to maintin 10-14g of mushrom per week with a setup such as this one? and do you think id need more or less light?
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Re: advise requested. [Re: ssjwizard]
#5424879 - 03/21/06 11:36 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you learn to grow right then yes you can have a constant supply of shrooms, light is not important if you can see the shrooms with your naked eye then that is enough light.
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Re: advise requested. [Re: ssjwizard]
#5424880 - 03/21/06 11:36 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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The best advice I could give you is to do a lot of reading before you start purchasing anything. You can save yourself a lot of money by not buying unnecessary items.
Like the fruiting chamber you described. You will not need two of those florescent lights one will work just fine. In fact the small energy saving florescent lights works great and are about 13W. The gloves are also unnecessary and cumbersome.
I highly suggest you click the link in my signature to find many other great links. All worth the time to read.
I agree with fooman, a mono-tub is just the ticket for you.
Grains are nice but if you don't have a pressure cooker and don't want to invest in one brown rice flour cakes (PF tek) can be spawned to horse manure. This used in an average mono tub setup will produce many dry ounces, which should keep you happy for some time
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Re: advise requested. [Re: ssjwizard]
#5425020 - 03/21/06 12:13 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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MindsEye
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Re: advise requested. [Re: FooMan]
#5425034 - 03/21/06 12:16 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fooman, do those holes provide adequite air exchange or do you open up and fan?
And how big are those holes?
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Edited by MindsEye (03/21/06 12:17 PM)
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FooMan



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Re: advise requested. [Re: MindsEye]
#5425259 - 03/21/06 01:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Holes are about 3/4" in diameter. As long as you have at least some air flow in the room, it will be adequate enough for all of your FAE. My tubs are kept in a bedroom. There is a central air conditioner set to 78F that comes on periodically throughout the day, but that's it. Read up on the double tub. Wronguy has a tek in his sig. I try to promote this tek as much as possible because it's just too damn easy and produces awesome results. You DO NOT need to mist or fan AT ALL. I still wonder why so many people bother with fancy setups involving humidifiers, timers, etc when this method requires none of that and produces just as well. Once I have my tub all set up, I just wait.
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ssjwizard
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Re: advise requested. [Re: FooMan]
#5426423 - 03/21/06 05:44 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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excelent thanks for the advise. id love to go without a light however the room that its going to be kept in does get outside sunlight. and its going to be underneath a worktable thats about 30" high and 4x6' across so ill need atleast 1 small lamp. airflow below there is also quite limited so im inclined to use some sort of active circulation even if only a few cfm. im thinking nothing more then 15 cfm but pulling through filter medium thats likely to be cut in half. id like to ask ou a question about for substrate setup. you not useing horse dung and wild bird seed. i assume that your prepairing the mycelium in a jar of WBS and then seating that into the horse dung. do you add any water or additional prepiration to that or do you just go with the natural semi fresh state of use?
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