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InvisibleDiploidM
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Scientists Issue Unprecedented Forecast of Next Sunspot Cycle
    #5423309 - 03/20/06 08:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

This is really good news if you're into ham radio, bad news if you run an electrical grid.  :smirk:

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http://www.ucar.edu/news/releases

2006-5 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: March 6, 2006

Scientists Issue Unprecedented Forecast of Next Sunspot Cycle
BOULDER?The next sunspot cycle will be 30-50% stronger than the last one
and begin as much as a year late, according to a breakthrough forecast
using a computer model of solar dynamics developed by scientists at the
National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR). Predicting the Sun's
cycles accurately, years in advance, will help societies plan for active
bouts of solar storms, which can slow satellite orbits, disrupt
communications, and bring down power systems.

The scientists have confidence in the forecast because, in a series of
test runs, the newly developed model simulated the strength of the past
eight solar cycles with more than 98% accuracy. The forecasts are
generated, in part, by tracking the subsurface movements of the sunspot
remnants of the previous two solar cycles. The team is publishing its
forecast in the current issue of Geophysical Research Letters.

?Our model has demonstrated the necessary skill to be used as a
forecasting tool,? says NCAR scientist Mausumi Dikpati, the leader of
the forecast team at NCAR?s High Altitude Observatory that also includes
Peter Gilman and Giuliana de Toma.

-----Understanding the cycles -----

The Sun goes through approximately 11-year cycles, from peak storm
activity to quiet and back again. Solar scientists have tracked them for
some time without being able to predict their relative intensity or timing.

Forecasting the cycle may help society anticipate solar storms, which
can disrupt communications and power systems and affect the orbits of
satellites. The storms are linked to twisted magnetic fields in the Sun
that suddenly snap and release tremendous amounts of energy. They tend
to occur near dark regions of concentrated magnetic fields, known as
sunspots.

The NCAR team?s computer model, known as the Predictive Flux-transport
Dynamo Model, draws on research by NCAR scientists indicating that the
evolution of sunspots is caused by a current of plasma, or electrified
gas, that circulates between the Sun's equator and its poles over a
period of 17 to 22 years. This current acts like a conveyor belt of
sunspots.

The sunspot process begins with tightly concentrated magnetic field
lines in the solar convection zone (the outermost layer of the Sun?s
interior). The field lines rise to the surface at low latitudes and form
bipolar sunspots, which are regions of concentrated magnetic fields.
When these sunspots decay, they imprint the moving plasma with a type of
magnetic signature. As the plasma nears the poles, it sinks about
200,000 kilometers (124,000 miles) back into the convection zone and
starts returning toward the equator at a speed of about one meter (three
feet) per second or slower. The increasingly concentrated fields become
stretched and twisted by the internal rotation of the Sun as they near
the equator, gradually becoming less stable than the surrounding plasma.
This eventually causes coiled-up magnetic field lines to rise up, tear
through the Sun's surface, and create new sunspots.

The subsurface plasma flow used in the model has been verified with the
relatively new technique of helioseismology, based on observations from
both NSF? and NASA?supported instruments. This technique tracks sound
waves reverberating inside the Sun to reveal details about the interior,
much as a doctor might use an ultrasound to see inside a patient.

-----Predicting Cycles 24 and 25 -----

The Predictive Flux-transport Dynamo Model is enabling NCAR scientists
to predict that the next solar cycle, known as Cycle 24, will produce
sunspots across an area slightly larger than 2.5% of the visible surface
of the Sun. The scientists expect the cycle to begin in late 2007 or
early 2008, which is about 6 to 12 months later than a cycle would
normally start. Cycle 24 is likely to reach its peak about 2012.

By analyzing recent solar cycles, the scientists also hope to forecast
sunspot activity two solar cycles, or 22 years, into the future. The
NCAR team is planning in the next year to issue a forecast of Cycle 25,
which will peak in the early 2020s.

?This is a significant breakthrough with important applications,
especially for satellite-dependent sectors of society,? explains NCAR
scientist Peter Gilman.

The NCAR team received funding from the National Science Foundation and
NASA?s Living with a Star program. NCAR?S primary sponsor is the
National Science Foundation. Opinions, findings, conclusions, or
recommendations expressed in this publication do not necessarily reflect
the views of the National Science Foundation.


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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: Scientists Issue Unprecedented Forecast of Next Sunspot Cycle [Re: Diploid]
    #5423715 - 03/20/06 10:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

"The Predictive Flux-transport Dynamo Model"



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Re: Scientists Issue Unprecedented Forecast of Next Sunspot Cycle [Re: Diploid]
    #5423760 - 03/20/06 10:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Great. Just when I get done watching "Perfect Disaster: Solar Storm" on Discovery :smirk:


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Re: Scientists Issue Unprecedented Forecast of Next Sunspot Cycle [Re: Diploid]
    #5428710 - 03/22/06 05:06 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I wonder how long before somebody claims that mankind is the cause... couldn't be a natural occurance... I mean, sunspot activity never gets this bad... mankind must have caused it somehow!


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Re: Scientists Issue Unprecedented Forecast of Next Sunspot Cycle [Re: Seuss]
    #5429349 - 03/22/06 10:22 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Seuss I know you are refering to the Global Warming bit, but I think your insistance that humans "might" not be causing it is rather silly.

So let me ask a few questions:

Are humans adding to the concentration of CO2 and other greenhouse gases through our activities - yes or no?

Do greenhouse gases trap solar energy in the Earth's atmosphere - yes or no?

While I certainly do not think that humans are the sole cause of GW, I do think it is painfully obvious that we are one of the causes.

I don't see how you can argue against that. Especially if you answer yes to the above two questions.


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Re: Scientists Issue Unprecedented Forecast of Next Sunspot Cycle [Re: trendal]
    #5430147 - 03/22/06 02:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

1. Yes
2. Probably based upon models, but this is debatable.

Is the sun putting out more heat today than it was two hundred years ago?

Is the solar system in a warmer part of space today than it was two hundred years ago?

Has the Earth undergone massive climate changes in the past without help from humans?

Will the Earth undergo massive climate changes in the future, even without the help from humans?

Does the Earth go through massive climate changes on a fairly regular basis?

Would the global climate be changing today if humans were not around?



I use climate change rather than global warming. Nobody knows where this is going to end up... boiling hot or freezing cold or in between... all we know is that things are different today than they were a hundred years ago when we started to record the weather. What we don't know is if this is a localized event over a few hundred years, part of a larger trend over a few thousand years, predictable or unusual. I find it a huge mistake to assume that humans are the cause of global warming... even the term global warming is misused. I'm not saying that humans are not responsible... I don't know... nor does anybody else. Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if we have screwed up the climate and we will pay for it... but proof is required before I will state what I believe to be true as a fact... and simply put, there is NO PROOF, only speculation. As long as people continue to speculate, I will continue to play the devil's advocate and remind them that they don't know any more than I do.


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Re: Scientists Issue Unprecedented Forecast of Next Sunspot Cycle [Re: Seuss]
    #5430203 - 03/22/06 02:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Seuss said:
I wonder how long before somebody claims that mankind is the cause



While the storms is happening, I wonder how long before somebody claims that its the apocalypse.


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