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Re: Kurzweil: The Singularity is Near [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5442671 - 03/25/06 11:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yes we could be terminals to a universal ring and token server which connects to the server regional super computer area network


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Re: Kurzweil: The Singularity is Near [Re: fresh313]
    #5443021 - 03/26/06 01:59 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

it would be possible for this machine to predict the future to a good 75%+ degree if it was given enough of the correct information based upon which humans make decisions. there has to be enough information though it wont tell you when youll die. it needs enough input or variable decisions [ volume ] to base its predicton for this to occur again on. a pattern. right now people are still much better at predicting the future, yet using a neural network as a factor in your prediction is a good indicator.


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Re: Kurzweil: The Singularity is Near [Re: fresh313]
    #5443677 - 03/26/06 10:19 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I think computers will be 100% accurate when predicting the future of computer related industries, generations, price-productivity and expansion.


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Re: Kurzweil: The Singularity is Near [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5445677 - 03/26/06 11:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

nothing 100% but maybe like 90-95


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Re: Kurzweil: The Singularity is Near [Re: fresh313]
    #5447261 - 03/27/06 12:21 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

this is all telepathy on the screen , computer to computer information, c to c, the on both sides another c-c so

  b --> m <---> C <-----> C <---> m <-- b 


b - brain
m - mind

we're all plugged in to the LAN, sometimes u can access the WAN  :mushroom2:


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Re: Kurzweil: The Singularity is Near [Re: fresh313]
    #5447727 - 03/27/06 02:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I thought just now that maybe, just MAYBE (but it seems likely to me), the technological singularity will be some piece of software. Not some external hardware add-on.
We already have the best hardware around (so far and as far as i know) - which is our brain. We just need a better software I think.
How that might happen is difficult to forecast, really... maybe someone will hack our current Operative System... We'll see, for sure.


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Re: Kurzweil: The Singularity is Near [Re: cupevampe]
    #5447741 - 03/27/06 02:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

but, are u sure WE will see this new software working? so soon?
cant this feeling, of an end getting so close, be maybe just an illusion?
couldnt it last all our lives? or you feel it wont?


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Re: Kurzweil: The Singularity is Near [Re: grevel]
    #5448064 - 03/27/06 03:54 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

the software is the skills[learned] to use a computer. navigate an operating system, gui, or text. then hop on the .net


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Re: Kurzweil: The Singularity is Near [Re: fresh313]
    #5448270 - 03/27/06 04:57 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Kurzweil shows in his book, time and time again that we are nearing the vertical leap of the exponential curve.
We are already beginning to breach the threshold of nanotechnology, which is 100 microns (i believe).

But, I dont think Fresh and I are on the same page with this.


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Re: Kurzweil: The Singularity is Near [Re: fresh313]
    #5452329 - 03/28/06 06:11 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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the software is the skills[learned] to use a computer. navigate an operating system, gui, or text. then hop on the .net




this thread makes me feel like im on acid. people are discussing technology and im thinking about meditation n what not.


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Re: Kurzweil: The Singularity is Near [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5452430 - 03/28/06 06:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I'm interested in how these upcommoning technologies are going to effect human society and politics.

Some (religious/paranoid) people are going to refuse ever using this technology. I'm worried these future technologies might create new societal classes, the Enhanced and the Regulars. Or, what if GRIN technology are extremely expensive, and hence, only available to the rich?


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Re: Kurzweil: The Singularity is Near [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #5453988 - 03/29/06 04:44 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

a quite probable scenario is that the gap between the rich and the poor will (continue to) grow larger as power-oriented technologies will accumulate more power to the already powerful, so that at some point the middle class will disappear and humans will disintegrate into two different species. the rich will be able to live almost forever through reduced cell-aging techniques and produce genetically modified off-springs that will be more intelligent, beautiful etc. while the poor will sink deeper into misery and slavery and will eventually be stripped of political rights


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Re: Kurzweil: The Singularity is Near [Re: raytrace]
    #5454118 - 03/29/06 07:43 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Genetics will be expensive at first, but as the process becomes refined will be much cheaper. DNA mapping used to take weeks, now it takes hours. It used to cost hundred thousands, now it costs around one thousand. We're already starting to see cheap genetic products. Soon, we'll start to see cheaps home products that will inform you of your genetic disposition's allowing you to alter your biology before problems arise.

Robotics technology is being developed all the time. This topic is of least interest to me, so I dont know as much. With previously complicated robots being on sale at Toys-R-Us, I wouldn't deny this area of research is also being rapidly improved. I mean robots are all around us. Robotic limbs, robots in manufacturing industry, robots for security, robots are pretty much everywhere.

Information technology is also increasing at an exponential rate. There are atomic drives being in product that allow !TERABYTES! to be stored on a relatively cheap hard disk (around $500-1000). The rate at which information is able to be shared IS increasing exponentially... its obvious.

Nanotechnology, I believe will be the most profound. It is currently the slowest of the four topics. The foundations of nanotechnology are being laid out by many current scientists. Think simple machines at the atomic level. Energy waste will be minimized, quality will be near flawless, production time will be extremely rapid. We will be able to synthesize foods, homes, clothes, whatever you can think of! However, its sort of difficult to visualize right now... just give it some time; you'll be ready for it without realizing it.

All of this is self-evident. Check any science/technology related magazine and you'll see what I mean.


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Re: Kurzweil: The Singularity is Near [Re: psyka]
    #5456345 - 03/29/06 06:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I remember reading somewhere that they have created semi-nano bots with the sole purpose of helping clean up oil spills, but the only problem with their implementation is that there is no way to stop them once started.

I havent gotten terribly far in Kurzweils book yet, but the information he has given so far is very interesting, especially if you are into "technological theory".


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Re: Kurzweil: The Singularity is Near [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5464194 - 03/31/06 01:58 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

With all of this technological advancement, one has to wonder where we human beings will fit into the equation... :grin:

I think it will directly benefit our experience of life. I think we will become more focused in the present and will begin to more directly perceive reality. The more continued survival becomes effortless, and the less and less energy that is required to be expended on our part in order to arrange our surroundings to our preferences, the more oppurtunity we will have to be.

Perhaps we cannot instill within technology awareness, but perhaps we are the awareness. Technology is really, in a sense, simply the extension of our body. The more refined it becomes, the more we will begin to focus inward, into our consciousness.

But hey who knows. :lol:

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Re: Kurzweil: The Singularity is Near [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #11115109 - 09/23/09 07:32 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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Ray Kurzweil and the Transhumanists seem to often be very over optimistic. During the seventies, some projected that by the year 2000 life extension pills would be cheap, effective, and readily available. Unfortunately, death is trickier than we expected.

With that said, I still am a big fan of Ray Kurzweil and other Transhumanists. While they may be too optimistic, the exponential acceleration GRIN (Genetic, Robotic, Information, Nano) technologies cannot be denied.

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Ray never made those predictions. However what are anti-depressant pills? :levitate:


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