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lil_civic_lil
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cool Mushroom SHAKER kit
#5422396 - 03/20/06 12:57 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Its a 1 Quart reusable growth chamber W/Self healing injector site and micron filter ( Micron filter allows contamination free gas exchange). Just inject spores, shake, case after 21 days, first flush in under 1 month.
Edited by lil_civic_lil (04/13/06 01:14 AM)
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Tattoo
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Got a link?
What substrate did you use?
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Re: cool Mushroom SHAKER kit [Re: Tattoo]
#5422420 - 03/20/06 01:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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***url deleted*** <--which was the whole post.
***please don't post links to non shroomery Vendors selling Spore syringes and Substrates***
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musher_420
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Re: cool Mushroom SHAKER kit [Re: Tattoo]
#5422430 - 03/20/06 01:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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You paid 8 bucks for a one quart container and about a cup of grain?
I guess you could have paid a dealer 35 an 1/8th so.... whatever floats your boat.
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lil_civic_lil
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Re: cool Mushroom SHAKER kit [Re: musher_420]
#5422441 - 03/20/06 01:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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exactly, i was hopeing more for a 1/4. Its kinda cute. He has some that are already steralized,and theyre reusable and when filled with agar can turn 1cc spore sollution into 100cc usable ?myceliem? that will store in the fridge for months. I would think these would be good for begeniners, to learn it isnt that hard to grow, isntead of starting out on 24 jars or bulk substrate or myco bags. You could just set it in you closset and have a steady supply of mini shrooms and mycelem to inoculate other substrates.
Edited by lil_civic_lil (03/20/06 01:16 PM)
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musher_420
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Well it's basically a jar.
There are MANY uses for jars. But at walmart or wherever really you can buy a dozen of them for 8 bucks.
(The filter patch, looks like micro pore tape. The injector site can be made out of high temp gasket maker. Both of which are locally available and CHEAP!)
You wouldn't be filling it will agar BTW. It would be a mixture of 4% karo and 96% water. Known as LC.
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lil_civic_lil
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Re: cool Mushroom SHAKER kit [Re: musher_420]
#5422484 - 03/20/06 01:21 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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dont forget 2.00 a gallon gas driving around to get supplies, and the risk of infection since i dont have a autoclave/PC, but i see what your saying. I plan on building a bigger 1gal one myself from supplies .
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tiny_rabid_birds
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Yeah, you're basically paying an extra $6-7 for convenience. Most people don't have a pc, let alone a high quality one, so if you're only going to grow like once or twice, it kinda makes sense to get these pre-sterilized jars.
I mean, jars aren't expensive. The grain/substrate isn't expensive. The tyvek or micropore tape isn't expensive. The RTV silicone sealant isn't expensive. But w/o a PC, you're pretty much fucked, so if you're only going to grow like once or twice with the hopes of getting an 8th or two, then you buy something like this for the convenience. It's not a good deal, but it'll get you mushrooms without you needing to bother getting a PC or even reading.
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Re: cool Mushroom SHAKER kit [Re: musher_420]
#5422569 - 03/20/06 01:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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The Shaker Kit is pretty cool aside from the price... but so it goes. I would have to agree with musher. The 4% karo 96% liquid culture medium has to be hands down the easiest way to introduce one?s self to growing mushroom mycelium from spores. Extraordinarily easy, cheap, and assembled from readily available products. I started using liquid culture a few years ago utilizing a far from exact water / honey mixture. Once you experiment with liquid culture you won?t even dream of germinating spores directly on substrate ever again as the whole process is accelerated tremendously. In my opinion anyway... georgem
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Tattoo
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You can do bulk grows just pasturizing poo, though I THINK casing needs to be PC'd. I believe shrooms can be fruited on straight poo aswell.
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Edited by Tattoo (03/20/06 01:52 PM)
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Re: cool Mushroom SHAKER kit [Re: Tattoo]
#5422613 - 03/20/06 01:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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The thing is though, if you're going to grow from straight poo, then you need to completely sterilize the poo (not pasteurize) and then knock it up w/ an LC.
When using pasteurized poo, you need to use a spawn which has already been fully colonized. The use of LCs as an inoculant in pasteurized poo will generally result in contamination.
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Tattoo
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what about Agar transplants?
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Re: cool Mushroom SHAKER kit [Re: Tattoo]
#5422664 - 03/20/06 02:11 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Agar transplants to pasteurized poo? I suppose that could work, but you'd need a helluva lot of agar to provide sufficient spawn for a 1:5 ratio.
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musher_420
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After reading through that link the biggest problem I have with it is that he says it's to be used with grains and that would also be implied by the "shaker" part of the name. And yet he says you can re-use the kit by microwave sterilization. I haven't heard much success resulting from the nukeing other then from blackout.
The PF tek can be done without a PC. And almost all the materials can be bought in one stop at walmart.
In fact you could use drinking glasses to make your cakes. All you would need to buy is verm, BRF and perlite. You could probably make an FC out of a cardboard box lined with a plastic bag or plastic wrap. And yield a lot more.
So for about 30 bucks you could get yourself everything you need plus syringes to do PF tek for probably a year depending on how many cakes you did at a time.
IF you REALLY wanted to strech your dollar you would go get some free horse manure pasturize it yourself in an old pillow case, spawn your cakes to it........ the sky's the limit.
Edited by musher_420 (03/20/06 02:15 PM)
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lil_civic_lil
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Re: cool Mushroom SHAKER kit [Re: musher_420]
#5422689 - 03/20/06 02:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I can get 4 of these 2 1/2 lbs + { 9 cups per bag} of sterilized grain substrates in iether Rye and millet, Corn or Premium Birdseed mixture with white millet added and balanced for optimal fungal growth with gypsum and limestone, etc. with a total weight of 10 lbs.+. substrate )36 cups of grain-substrate) for 30 bucks shipped.
Edited by lil_civic_lil (03/20/06 02:20 PM)
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coda
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WBS = 99 cents for about 10 quart jars worth Oven bags = hella cheap Gas to walmart = 2
hmmmmm, doesnt even come close to thirty bucks. KITS SUCK.
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Re: cool Mushroom SHAKER kit [Re: coda]
#5422705 - 03/20/06 02:23 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Atleast it doesnt look like you have a methlab or hydrophonic setup in your house.
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musher_420
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You could buy that grain for just a couple bucks. Again your paying for the sterilization of it. Which to me.... doesn't make sense because there is no way to guarantee that by the time you get to inoculate it, it will STILL be sterile or ever was fully sterilized in the first place. Then if it contams your shit out of luck. Not to mention that sometimes syringes are contaminated.
Seriously man, If you don't have a PC and don't wanna buy one go with BRF substrates. Alone they provide shrooms potent enough to do the trick. But spawned to horse manure they will knock your socks off.
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coda
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um, i grow mushrooms without a kit and it looks nothing like a hydroponic setup or methlab.
methinks i smell a spammer.
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Re: cool Mushroom SHAKER kit [Re: coda]
#5422766 - 03/20/06 06:57 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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what he payed for is corn and poop, yea that is all that is in the kit, it askes you to first let the corn soak for 24 hours in i think 1 cup H2O2 and 2 cup distilled water. Then boil for 2 hours, after that strain and put in microwave for 5 min. let cool and enject. If you were going to buy this in stores it cost about $3.00, sorry to burst your bubble
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