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ShroomoorhS
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Possible Bum Syringes (Help Me Out)
#5422332 - 03/20/06 12:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I ordered some syringes from a reputible seller on this site about a month ago, and I just opened the box yesterday and all of the syringes seem to have no spores in them. They are completly clear, nothing floating in the liquid. Is this something to be concerned with. I dont want to bash the company if I'm being to cautious so I'm not going to say where I got them from. I'm new to this hobby but I have ordered syringes before and they all had huge black clumps of spores floating around, is it possible to not see the spores. I mean I ordered 8 syringes and every single one is clear I just find that odd. Someone get back to me please
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Edited by ShroomoorhS (03/20/06 12:56 PM)
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Kerr
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Re: Possible Bum Syringes (Help Me Out) [Re: ShroomoorhS]
#5422361 - 03/20/06 12:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I read last night that spore syringes can vary in color from clear, to slightly cloudy and they even said a slight purple can show through. I am sure your fine if you go it from a sponsor here, they are all great people. You only have one way to find out if they are bunk or not, so get innoculating my friend
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ShroomoorhS
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Re: Possible Bum Syringes (Help Me Out) [Re: Kerr]
#5422404 - 03/20/06 12:59 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ya thats what I was thinking, I just didnt want to waste all the time sterilizing my grain and stuff if they were bogus.
-------------------- America, FUCK YEAH! Coming again, to save the mother fucking day yeah, America, FUCK YEAH! Freedom is the only way yeah, Terrorist your game is through cause now you have to answer too, America, FUCK YEAH! So lick my butt, and suck on my balls, America, FUCK YEAH!
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Kerr
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Re: Possible Bum Syringes (Help Me Out) [Re: ShroomoorhS]
#5422437 - 03/20/06 01:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Contact the company for some reassurance, it is a big investment, especially 8 syringes
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ShroomoorhS
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Re: Possible Bum Syringes (Help Me Out) [Re: Kerr]
#5422486 - 03/20/06 01:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ya I PM'ed them so hopefully I hear back with in a little while, I'd like to start examining them under the microscope tonight.
-------------------- America, FUCK YEAH! Coming again, to save the mother fucking day yeah, America, FUCK YEAH! Freedom is the only way yeah, Terrorist your game is through cause now you have to answer too, America, FUCK YEAH! So lick my butt, and suck on my balls, America, FUCK YEAH!
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Kerr
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Re: Possible Bum Syringes (Help Me Out) [Re: ShroomoorhS]
#5422489 - 03/20/06 01:23 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thats a great idea, Im sure you are in good hands
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Stonerguy
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Re: Possible Bum Syringes (Help Me Out) [Re: ShroomoorhS]
#5422496 - 03/20/06 01:26 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Depending on the amount of spores in them they can be totally clear.
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Spores_101
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Re: Possible Bum Syringes (Help Me Out) [Re: Stonerguy]
#5422541 - 03/20/06 01:39 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Spores are microscopic ya know?
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ShroomoorhS
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Re: Possible Bum Syringes (Help Me Out) [Re: Spores_101]
#5422562 - 03/20/06 01:45 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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ya I actually just read that like a half hr ago. But what through me off was the ones that i got before that had huge black clumps of spores
-------------------- America, FUCK YEAH! Coming again, to save the mother fucking day yeah, America, FUCK YEAH! Freedom is the only way yeah, Terrorist your game is through cause now you have to answer too, America, FUCK YEAH! So lick my butt, and suck on my balls, America, FUCK YEAH!
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onetime
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Re: Possible Bum Syringes (Help Me Out) [Re: ShroomoorhS]
#5423773 - 03/20/06 10:35 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Clumps are a sign of old syringes. well not too old but not totlly fresh. For the last few years I belive most vendors use things like astro glide and other things along with ultra sonic cleaner machines to despence the spores 100% I asume most vendors to this these days rether or not they do so publicly as I am sure they don't want any drama to start up. But I could be worng.
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Noxide
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Re: Possible Bum Syringes (Help Me Out) [Re: onetime]
#5427390 - 03/21/06 08:45 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm having the same problem with the same vendor im sure. No spores visible by the eye. I too will be looking under the microscope.
On the otherhand I got a syringe from Sporeworks with A BUNCH of visible clumps and this spore experiment is much better than my other syringe...
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onetime
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Re: Possible Bum Syringes (Help Me Out) [Re: Noxide]
#5427603 - 03/21/06 09:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Noxide said: I'm having the same problem with the same vendor im sure. No spores visible by the eye. I too will be looking under the microscope.
On the otherhand I got a syringe from Sporeworks with A BUNCH of visible clumps and this spore experiment is much better than my other syringe...
clumps are not better. it is a sign of unfresh spores. nothing wrong with clumps it just means that its been on the shelf for a little bit. Meany vendors use methods to completely deperse the spores. Spores clump up becouse spores need two to make myc so they join up and then search for food. they will stay joined up untill food is ready. Freash spore syringes made with jet dry or ky lubercants will be depersed througherly and wont clump up. This makes for even spores on your slide.
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Noxide
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Re: Possible Bum Syringes (Help Me Out) [Re: ShroomoorhS]
#5427700 - 03/21/06 09:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well i'll tell you right now, the syringe with the clumps in it, is very good!
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Re: Possible Bum Syringes (Help Me Out) [Re: Noxide]
#5430393 - 03/22/06 03:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Clumps are good, but I'd rather have my spores dispersed evenly. Spores clump up over time, but should disperse nicely with a few flicks of your finger if the solution was done correctly. This means that you can be sure you aren't shooting "blanks" when you inoculate.
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Noxide
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Re: Possible Bum Syringes (Help Me Out) [Re: FooMan]
#5430947 - 03/22/06 05:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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All i had to do was shake it up and it was dispersed real nicely.
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beatnicknick
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Re: Possible Bum Syringes (Help Me Out) [Re: Noxide]
#5445279 - 03/26/06 09:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Possible Bum Syringes (Help Me Out)
unfortunatley you cannot cultivate bums at this time, however if any of you have heard how to grow bums, i would like this information for I need someone to constantly nag at me and ask me for change
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Re: Possible Bum Syringes (Help Me Out) [Re: beatnicknick]
#5447826 - 03/27/06 02:44 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Instructions on growing a bum: Don't wear a condom, and after that, don't teach the result anything. Or just find some random chic, get her hooked on crack and make sure your her only supply and then tell her to leave. You'll have a nice bum!
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Tien
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Re: Possible Bum Syringes (Help Me Out) [Re: onetime]
#5448637 - 03/27/06 07:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
onetime said: Clumps are a sign of old syringes. well not too old but not totlly fresh. For the last few years I belive most vendors use things like astro glide and other things along with ultra sonic cleaner machines to despence the spores 100% I asume most vendors to this these days rether or not they do so publicly as I am sure they don't want any drama to start up. But I could be worng.
not neceserally.. spores clump together (fresh or not) when you add a spore suspender to the water, such as Jet Dry or lube.
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Re: Possible Bum Syringes (Help Me Out) [Re: Tien]
#5448928 - 03/27/06 08:33 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Those black clumps are generally a sign that the spores were not fully dispersed when the syringe was made. The biggest reason for clumps is usually a very heavy, and hard spore print, which can be brittle, and not allow a full dispersal of spores. When spores are fully dispersed, and suspended, it takes very significant numbers of spores for you to notice them with a naked eye. The spore syringe will have a tint to it more like a dye, than particles, and after a lengthy storage, the spores will begin to drift down to the lowest surface of the syringe, and deposit there. I have found the best way to re-suspend spores after long storage (2 months or more) is to place a strong vibratory source against the syringe (electric toothbrush, razor, or your ladies best friend), under a month usually only requires a brisk shaking. Particle clumps in a syringe may serve as some assurance to those new to this microscopy hobby that the syringe contains something other than water, but the goal is full, and even dispersal of the spores in the syringe. After all you wouldn't want your farm hand to waste seeds by throwing a few full sacks out in the field just to prove he was there. it would just be a waste of seed just like clumps are a waste of spores.
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Roadkill
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Re: Possible Bum Syringes (Help Me Out) [Re: sporesource]
#5450525 - 03/28/06 09:42 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
I have found the best way to re-suspend spores after long storage (2 months or more) is to place a strong vibratory source against the syringe (electric toothbrush, razor, or your ladies best friend), under a month usually only requires a brisk shaking.
hehehe
me too.

duct tape the syringe onto it...
turn that puppy on for a minute.
and your good to go!~
and then you can turn the old lady on with it later.
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Re: Possible Bum Syringes (Help Me Out) [Re: Roadkill]
#5450679 - 03/28/06 10:22 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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RK is the dirty old man who sits on his porch and yells at kids to stay off his lawn jk man <3
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Re: Possible Bum Syringes (Help Me Out) [Re: sporesource]
#5450764 - 03/28/06 10:42 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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 One of the most effective means to EVENLY disperse spores in solution, that I know of is to use a large ultrasonic cleaner. (not cheap).
How that is done on a commercial(large scale) basis, is to take X number of prints on glass.


Place those spores in solution (including a small amount of jet dry), then aspirate that heavy spore solution into a syringe & inject it into a 2000 ml IV bag of sterile water.
Then, place the IV bag in the ultrasonic cleaner & turn it on long enough that all spore clumps in the bag disperse EVENLY in the solution. Which will make the spores invisible, except for a very very light tinge of color to the overall solution.
Then use sterile IV tubing with luer lock fittings, to fill individual syringes from that IV bag.
The result will be 10 ml syringes that appear CLEAR, but contain a more than adequate amount of spores for mush/cult purposes.
A large optimal P. Cubensis print will contain something on the order of 100,000,000 (1 hundred million) spores.
A few hundred thousand spores in a 10 ml syringe, is all that is required. Well dispersed, they will generally be invisible to the naked eye.
Ponder that a cubic foot of normal household air, contains on average 100,000 microscopic particulates, normally invisible to the unaided human eye.
Meaning, you CANNOT see them, but - they certainly are there.
Same goes for well made spore syringes.
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