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Non-alcoholic trip???
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I just have a general question concerning the effects of alcohol on a trip! Can alcohol enhance or ruin a shroom trip? Can it effect a person's ability to sense that they are tripping? Can it make shrooms take longer to kick in?
Just curious


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Re: Non-alcoholic trip??? [Re: Sypriss]
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Hmm... Why don't you try it and find out?

I know I won't be.

Feel free to post your results

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Re: Non-alcoholic trip??? [Re: Sypriss]
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I have drank alcohol almost every time I have shroomed, but never in large quantities. I have never shroomed after I have had more than a few beers though and normally I'll drink like a six-pack over the course of a 3-4 trip. It can't really say if it ruins or enhances the trip but I certainly have been satisfied with the trips I have had while drinking alcohol.

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Re: Non-alcoholic trip??? [Re: mrshrums]
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I almost always drink when I trip. When I drink I drink in excess too. I like it. I get all stumbly and shit but I don't get spinny and queasy from the alcohol no matter how much I drink. If you stick with the beers you will be ok. Try it why not it wont hurt ya. If you don't like it don't do it again what do you have to lose


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Re: Non-alcoholic trip??? [Re: Sypriss]
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I guess this comes from going to a lot of music festivals, but I'm used to washing my fungus down with a nice heady sam adams or two. Once I get rolling, however, I rarely have the desire to drink. I usually sally a beer all night and drink a bunch of water.

I personally don't think it has a huge impact on your trip in small quantities.

take care!
-bizarro

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Re: Non-alcoholic trip??? [Re: bizarro]
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When I trip, I have this thing about not putting anything artifical in my body...I might just be weird, but tripping gets sorta intense sometimes, and Id rather just drink a lot of water rather than beer.

A few of my friends say you can actually drink MORE when shrooming...why someone would really have the mind to gather the information on aquiring beer, and even trying to open one, Id come to the conclusion you should just eat more mushrooms.. hehehe.

Sometimes shrooming, I look at things man-made and freak out , there for I only trip in the forest, and become the bush man of the forest...everythign makes sense, believe me.

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Re: Non-alcoholic trip??? [Re: angryshroom]
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I think I like your style angryshroom


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Re: Non-alcoholic trip??? [Re: Sypriss]
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Check out www.eurowid.org. They've got a lot of information on many things. I remember reading last night there that alcohol can increase the queasiness at the beginning, but that later on, it doesn't really have much effect (short of dehydrating you -- bad).

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Re: Non-alcoholic trip??? [Re: Pachanguero]
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drink a quart of hard alcohol, then eat 2 grams of cubies and stop drinking... if you can handle the alcohol, you won't get sick and it prolongs the drunk, but adds the total wackedness of the shrooms... I've done this a couple of times and it was a lot of fun... the only thing to remember is that alcohol and shrooms both dehydrate you, so remember to down a couple of glasses of water with the shrooms, and have fun :smile:

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Re: Non-alcoholic trip??? *DELETED* [Re: Hammerloaf]
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Re: Non-alcoholic trip??? [Re: MeetMeInEleusis]
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i think it depends on your veiw of the mushroom. some of us veiw it as sacred and natural, others veiw it simply as a party drug. whatever floats your boat!


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Bob Marley

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Re: Non-alcoholic trip??? [Re: Pachanguero]
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That's

http://www.erowid.org

You shouldn't drink alcohol when shrooming. Shrooms dehydrate you, alcohol dehydrates you. You'll have a better trip without the booze.


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Re: Non-alcoholic trip??? [Re: XAZIA]
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i could never get myself to drink while tripping, but when i was coming down one time i drank much more than i normally could. for some reason its like it had no effect on me at all.

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Re: Non-alcoholic trip??? [Re: MeetMeInEleusis]
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I second the motion.. i feel personally insulted when people use something with so much potential as merely another recreational tool to be abused and discarded..


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Re: Non-alcoholic trip??? [Re: Sypriss]
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i drank like once while tripping, it was an intresting experience, and then i remebered all the beer my friend put down while he was tripping. after he came down from the trip, he was still drunk, and then it escalted to him being violently sick from all the beer finally catching up with him. i asked him why he drank so much, he didnt realize he did, so if you drink and im speaking from experience, its pretty hard to stop doing it while youre tripping. because you feel the effects of the alcohol, but then again you really dont, and you get in the mind state that its just something to drink, you know how confusing things can get. my advice to you would be to not overdue what your normally used to doing and stay hydrated.

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Re: Non-alcoholic trip??? [Re: Sypriss]
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when on shrooms i can drink drink and drink and hardly feel the effects of alcohol,
most people i know also have the same expierience.
It really hasn't much of any effect on the trip unless you drink a stupendous amount imo.
If you do drink alot you'll feel it somewhat the next morning.
I know many times I should of woke up with a hangover but didn't.

Now smoking bud on mushrooms, thats where its at.....
if you wait a few hours (till after you peak) and smoke some good bud..
it'll take you to a much higher plane...


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Re: Non-alcoholic trip??? [Re: TCatz]
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The mushroom is sacred, I agree.. and there is a lot to be said for a pure unaltered mushroom trip.. it can be a spiritual journey, thats for sure. But if you choose to drink also, thats your decision, and just because someone chooses to do so, doesn't in anyway mean that they are tarnishing some holy rite or some shite like that... of course some freaky zealot fanatics may disagree, but it's all in good fun, and as long as people are careful and responsible, then I don't see why the hell not.

Do what you like, just know what your doing.

my 2.5 cents.

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Re: Non-alcoholic trip??? [Re: Hammerloaf]
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werd

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Re: Non-alcoholic trip??? [Re: Sypriss]
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Well before I understood shrooms properly, when I was a young partier. I used to drink a case of beer with my 3 or 4 grams. I found that the mushrooms overpowered the alcohol and I could drink as much as I wanted. I also found the drinking dulled the trip.....stoping me from reaching the full potential of the trip. Once the shrooms wear off you are drunk as fuck or should I say to drunk to fuck hehehe


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Re: Non-alcoholic trip??? [Re: TCatz]
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I agree with TCatz,

Back in the early 80's.....i used to party like a mad man.
I'd use anything and everything....pretty stupid now......looking back.
I ended up getting my stomach pumped in a hospital a few times....mostly from pills.
No i'm not preaching.....lolz
Just stay the fuck away from Angel Dust....that is some bad shit !!!!

I could drink and drink and hardly feel the effects of alcohol...while on shrooms.
Ungodly amounts of alcohol too...looking back i was fricken nutz !
It was like the alcohol had no effect....what so ever.
What i remember was the day after the most....feeling like crap!!!!

Smoking some Chronic on Shrooms....was always a good experience.

These days i really don't drink that much.... I'm an old fart now.
If i have a few drinks...... i don't do shrooms.
And when i trip on shrooms nowdays i enjoy my spirital moment....so i don't use other things.

Although I have read that someone said they had put shrooms in ToKillYa...now that i'd like to try...someday.

Do what your gonna do.....Just be safe and have a pleasant journey.
Have a Shroomy day!





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Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!

Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: Non-alcoholic trip??? [Re: mrshrums]
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I was wondering on a friends behalf. I have never drank while on a trip, but I wanted to know if it could bring down a trip or lessen it with alcohol. This particular friend was in a sense "drunk" when he ate about a quarter bag of shrooms. After he had waited for the trip for a few hours nothing happened so he continued to drink. He probably drank about a 24 pack and had some Vladamir after that, but I still couldn't understand why he wasn't feeling the shrooms at all.
The quarter bag was Psilocye cubensis, I'm not sure what happened or what caused the trip to fuk up, the only reasoning I would think would have been the alcohol, but since I personally have never taken shrooms while drinking, I thought I'd ask.


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Re: Non-alcoholic trip??? [Re: Sypriss]
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My friends always drink while tripping, I dont like it. I always hear thing such as "doing shrooms lets me take back a whole two-four no prob" or "I smoked an entire pack of cigarettes in one sitting."
Shrooms are sacred, we all know that. Dont disrespect them with alcohol.


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Re: Non-alcoholic trip??? [Re: razer]
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Listen man,
I totally agree. Shrooms are awesome in the sense that when they are taken alone they can be such an enlightening tool that to mix shrooms and alcohol seems like a waste. I was trying to speak with my friend about his experience while drinking and shrooming, but he said it was almost a buzz kill, drinking and trippin' at the same time. I do appreciate the fair warning. I have never drank and ate shrooms together, but because of this thread I know better now. ThanX.


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Re: Non-alcoholic trip??? [Re: Sypriss]
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I certainly respect the puritan argument, but this cowboy can't fathom the idea of not drinking (and smoking) whilst trippin'. Whether it involves just hangin' out and sippin' on some brews, or going out dancing, rabble rousing, partying, mackin' on the ladiez, or what have you, the shroomie experience involves good friends, smoke, and booze. As some have already mentioned, the psilocybin seems to make one almost impervious to the effects of alcohol and hangover.

I dunno, I guess for me the two just go so well together...

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Re: Non-alcoholic trip??? [Re: Sypriss]
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I have consumed the occasional beer to calm jitters or speediness, but never to excess. My friend likes to consume everything at hand and usually ends up drooling on himself and not having a good time. Alcohol as a depressant and mushies to create excess stimuli in the brain for me has always been a bad mix. Just some personal experience

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Re: Non-alcoholic trip??? [Re: Sypriss]
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Using booze or smoking while tripping on shrooms is like using ketchup on a fine steak. Or using sandpaper as toilet paper.


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Re: Non-alcoholic trip??? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Very very good example. I understand this view point more-so because I just agree. I smoke the occasional doobie to help calm nerves, but when it comes to drinking I just assume wait untill the next day, when the trip is done.


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Re: Non-alcoholic trip??? [Re: Sypriss]
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I guess we're all creatures of habit, and my trips are planned events--don't get to trip that often. I do them the same way each time.

Mushrooms for me can be slightly overwhelming in the beginning--so before I eat the shrooms I'll usually have about 3-5 beers; but once the shrooms have kicked in, I have no desire to drink anymore. The alcohol before the trip kicks in kinda calms me, readies me for the goodies to come.

I'm sure I would still enjoy the trip if I didn't drink beforehand, but I like a few before.

I think I read in the PF tek somewhere (or maybe in Erowid or elsewhere) that shrooms are so powerful that you could be snot-slingin' drunk, and once the shrooms kick in: YOU'RE SOBER.

Personally, all effects of the few beers I had are totally gone once the shrooms come into play.

If I was able to drink like a fish while trippin (which I'm not) I know that I wouldn't feel drunk once the trip begins. It would only serve to make the next day a truly miserable experience.

your mileage may vary, but very good thread, tho.







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Re: Non-alcoholic trip??? [Re: ChangLee]
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i subscribe to the theory that mushrooms open the 'brain valve' to the 'mind at large' (huxley). ive always believed that alcohol has the reverse effects. it brings you down to the basic survival instincts, namely procreation (or fucking). in my opinion alcohol is a dumbining (made that one up) drug. which is why i dont drink... anymore. but do what you like. ive never tripped while drinking so i dont have any theories on conflicting brain valve changes... something to think about i guess.


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let someone else feel them
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its difficult
sometimes impossible
always impossible?
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Re: Non-alcoholic trip??? [Re: Sypriss]
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I found one of the easiest way to consume was making
a pitcher of blended margaritas with the shrooms. This makes
it much more platable for those who don't like the taste. But
the intention is not to get drunk, after the shrooms kick in I
never really have a desire for alcohol. To me it seems that
I'm just wasting booze cause it's effects are diminished. It's
like when I'm eating a really good steak, there's absolutely no
desire for any steak sauce - the experience is complete by
itself.

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