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![]() controlleddemoli ![]() Registered: 03/01/01 Posts: 970 |
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By Dan
March 1st 2006 Updated March 17th 2006 The Boogieman And You To: "The Official Conspiracy Theory Supporters" (Those of you who don't dare question the official story of 911. Yes you.) From: The 911 Truth Movement ("Officials Killers Of Your Boogieman.") You are a danger to America and you are preventing the victims families from learning what happened to their loved ones on September 11th. Yes you! Why? Because you are a conspiracy theorist aiding and abetting the real criminals out of complete stupidity and lack of nuts. I can not say lack of knowledge because it is obvious you do not have the nuts to look at the evidence therefore the slang-word "nuts" has been used appropriately. If you can not back up a conspiracy theory with irrefutable evidence then it remains a conspiracy theory until you can produce such evidence. Official theories hold no more weight then any other theories until they are backed up with evidence. The fact that you lack the balls to admit it changes nothing. You were told things that were blatant lies backed up by no hard evidence and you do not care enough about your country to question your daddy government. Furthermore you do not care enough about the victims families to take 5 minutes to look at what they are complaining about. As far as your concerned the show was over after the towers blew up. In your ignorant mind the show is over and everything is back to normal. You have probably even complained that you have seen the collapse of those towers to many times. You don?t realize that this is done to keep you sleeping with your light on. To keep you frightened of the boogieman. They have even created a color code that is suppose to let you know how close the boogieman is. Indeed, they tell you how scared your suppose to be and you fucking eat it up like a 6 year old school girl. Yes you! Your more concerned about being a part of the majority. You can not stand on your own two feet and trust your own rational thinking. Hilariously you will never be able to admit that you do not trust your own judgment because that might make you look like the lap dog that you are. Your afraid of what you might find if you open your eyes. Your completely incapable of considering that your government might not be telling you the truth. Yes You! You happily accept the official story. You accept it because you have been shamed into believing it is the patriotic thing to do. It is the governments theory and it is backed up by the government under the auspices of ?The official Story? and you don?t give a damn that there is not a stitch of evidence to support it. Yes you! The back of your mind has been telling you that something is strange about the whole 911 attack however you keep it suppressed in fear of being labeled a conspiracy theorist foolishly not realizing that the official story is the true conspiracy theory. You can not connect the dots that the official story is completely without evidence which makes it a conspiracy theory. Yes you! You believe that a conspiracy theorist is someone that does not agree with the majority or the government. Your such a brainwashed follower that you don't realize that a conspiracy is nothing more then two or more people scheming or planning an event. While theory can be defined as: "Speculation" or "Without fact". Yes you! Your simple mind can not compute this otherwise easily recognizable puzzle so we feel obliged to state the obvious. Bush administration is the conspiracy and the official story without a single proven fact is the theory. Now let's add these two ingredients into the common sense machine and see what it spits out. "Governments official story + 0 facts = Conspiracy Theory." So you are a supporter of the "Conspiracy Theory". The 911 truth movement is not interested in any of your ridiculous conspiracy theories that have not produced a single fact after 5 years. When the truth does comes out you will be one of the sheep telling everyone that you knew it all the time. You will because the lack of backbone you have shown so far indicates that you won?t be able to stomach yourself when you see how easy this case is to crack and how only a complete moron can not understand that they have been lied to after being shown the evidence. Yes You! You will never again be able to walk with your head up nor will you ever be able to shake the handle of a closed minded follower awaiting their masters orders on how they should think. Your not going to want others to know that you helped to put this country in the most serious danger in its history. Yes You! You talk about how you would fight and die for your country but in reality you lack any sack whatsoever. This is evident in the way you cower to a make believe boogieman. You wave the American flag while the country is being stolen right out from under your nose by the real boogiemen. Your to smart and your to wise to believe that this could happen in America. You believe that someone in shining armor would come and save your country if this were true. Then you could go out and buy a yellow lapel ribbon or hang your flag to show everyone that you care about your country. Yes you! Your fantasy of America being perfect can not be challenged so you don?t need to waste your time looking at any evidence that makes a mockery of the official story. You believe sitting on your torn couch half smashed and watching a FOX news report about soldiers being killed for reasons of your presidents high treasonous acts and making statements such as ?Fuck Iraq? christens you a patriot even though you have never even considered wearing the uniform for any of the United States armed forces. Yes you! You are in a word pathetic. You are in a phrase, ?a pathetic liability to the future of this country?. You are in my book expendable. Yes You! If you made it this far through the article then perhaps there is hope for you. Your country could use another pair of balls to help save it but first we want to tell you a little bit about what the victims families are going through. Place yourself in this scenario. You drive up to your home to find it surrounded by policemen, firefighters and reporters. The mayor is present giving orders. Your first thought is are my kids OK, are they out of the house? You notice that a small amount of black sooty smoke was coming from a bathroom window. You notice that there is no damage to the bulk of your home but there is some damage to the bathroom area. Your told that the fire only burned hot for a few minutes then the smoke became black which indicates that the fire was starved for oxygen or fuel or both. You immediately ask the authorities about your kids and they tell you, ?The people inside were told to stay where they were at. They are not near the fire and it has been determined that they are in no danger. Evacuating the home would place them in more danger then simply staying put?. You hear a radio call from one of the firefighters that had made it to the bathroom where the fire was smoldering. The conversation goes something like this; ?Engine seven Battalion 1?. ?Go ahead engine 7? ?Yea Jerry we have a small isolated pocket of fire in the back bathroom, should be able to knock it down with one line, radio that.? ? Battalion 1 Engine 7 roger that.? Then suddenly you feel the ground shake, you hear a huge explosion followed by several smaller explosions. You see the two by fours that make up the skeleton of your house shoot out horizontally hundreds of feet, you see huge clouds of dust shoot out from the base of your home and you watch your house collapse straight down into its own footprint in less then 1 second. An hour or so after the collapse you are watching the mayor being interviewed and he says, ?We got a phone call that the house was going to collapse so we decided to evacuate our people from the home?. You hear the mail man say, ?I got a call and was told not to go near that home today because of security reasons?. There are news crews all over the place and everyone is talking about the explosions they heard, saw and felt just before and while your house was collapsing. A couple hours later you hear more explosions, you see more giant clouds of dust shooting out from the base of a home about a block away. That house also collapses in less then one second. It collapses straight down into its own footprint creating a tiny pile of rubble. When the dust settles you notice that there is no concrete foundation left nor any stucco from the walls. You do not find a single piece of concrete or stucco because it has all turned to dust. It had been pulverized by the explosions you heard, felt and saw. The same explosions that firefighters were describing to the news crews that were there. The same explosions that policemen were describing to reporters on the seen. The same explosions that every major news network was talking about the rest of the day. The same explosions that killed people who were to close to the house. You ask the mayor, ?who called you and warned you that the house was going to collapse and why didn?t my kids and those firefighters get the same warning?? His answer is, ?I don?t remember?. Before all of the dust had settled FEMA is there and has set up an emergency operations headquarters. They immediately start loading the rubble onto trucks. Trucks that have been outfitted with GPS devices. You learn that the GPS devices were outfitted on those trucks specifically for this job and they were put there to make sure non of the truck drivers strayed off of their assigned routs to and from the barge. Indeed as soon as a truck is loaded it is sent to a nearby port and the rubble is loaded onto a waiting barge then shipped to Asia to be recycled. Investigators arrive on the scene. These investigators are not allowed access to the rubble. The investigators are frustrated and they send a complaint to the mayors office. 3 days later the investigators are allowed a 5 minute chaperoned walk through of the rubble. The editor from the oldest and most respected fire fighter magazine complains that it is a federal crime to remove evidence from a crime scene. FEMA?s recovery personnel that are loading the trucks have authority over the investigators. You learn that the FEMA team had arrived the day before your house blew up. They tell you it is just a coincidence. You wait and you pray that your kids will be found alive. You discover that just like the concrete and the stucco they were blown to smithereens. The president hits the airways and promises a thorough investigation of the collapse. He says ?But now is not the time, it is time to mourn the victims and pray for the families.? A few days go by and rumors begin to surface. Those rumors say ?It was fire that caused those homes to collapse.? You are stunned, you are sure that these rumors will be extinguished immediately. You become angry when these rumors continue. You become irate when you realize that this rumor is being happily accepted by everyone. Confused, you go to the police who were at the scene and ask them to confirm they had heard bombs, they had seen explosions, they saw explosions and they felt explosions because they were there with you when your house blew up. The police tell you that the president had placed a gag order on them for reasons of national security. You say; ?Fine I will go to the firefighters and rescue workers who were at the scene they remember.? The police tell you that it won?t do you any good because they have also been placed under a strict gag order. You are watching the discovery channel because they are going to show America how the houses collapsed. You can not believe it when there is no mention of bombs or explosions. They provide a scenario of the collapse that is scientifically impossible because it defies basic laws of physics. Everyone on the planet has trumpeted this psychobabble fire theory as a well researched scientific investigation. An investigation that could not have taken place because you know that the rubble was shipped to Asia to be recycled and you know that your house was blown up with bombs. Something that you believed could go without saying has been flushed down the memory hole because nobody in the media has mentioned anything about bombs or explosions since the day your whole world blew up. The reporters in the main stream media were trumpeting the fire theory. The same reporters that were there on the scene are talking about fires bringing down your home. You have lost faith in your government. You have little faith left in the American people. Your only hope to find out what really happened to your kids and your home lays in the hands of the government. But this president has been doing everything he can to block the investigation that he promised would take place. You join with other victims families because it has been over a year now and all the presidents men are dragging their feet and stonewalling an official investigation. Begrudgingly the president appoints someone to head the commission. You find out that he appoints Henry ?Watergate/Iran Contra/War Criminal/Neoconservative/Zionist/Mass Murderer? Kissinger. Thankfully not even the slightest of minds is fooled by this appointment so Henry Kissinger is replaced by Thomas Kean who appoints the rest of the commission all except one of which have staggering conflicts of interests in the investigation. When the one person on the commission that does not have a conflict of interest cry's out that the entire commission is a scam and he won't allow it under his watch he is quickly replaced by another of the presidents lap dogs. You and the other victims families present a list of 400 questions to the commission and the commission says that those questions will be the guiding path to the commissions inquiry. Meanwhile the funds that have been donated to the victims families have finally been made available to those families however the government places restrictions on those funds in that the families must sign documents stating that no further action can be taken against any government entities that may be found to be derelict in their duties or complicit in any other form regarding the events leading up to that day, on that day or after that day. You turn to the American people for help and they tell you that you are crazy, you are a conspiracy theorist, it was a fire that brought down your home, they are experts because they saw it on the discovery channel and it made perfect sense to them. You tell them you have evidence, you tell them something is wrong, you plead with them to just look at the evidence and they tell you they don?t need to look at any evidence from a crackpot conspiracy theorist because they already know the official story. This is not even your IQ?s worth of what is happening in America right now. The above is comparable to what the victims families are going through right now although what they are going through is all of this and far worse. Further then your patriotic, never question your government, simple and closed mind can ever imagine. If this continues unchecked the only satisfaction we will get out of it is watching all you people who are to smart to consider that this can happen in America shrivel up and become little Neo Nazis as it is a cinch you will not have the sack to disobey your government daddy figure. We ask one favor of you "official conspiracy theorists supporters" while we try and save your country for you. Either look at the evidence the 911 truth movement has to offer or stop hawking the official story as if you know what your babbling about or until you can provide a piece of evidence to support it. Better yet; sack up and join the 911 truth movement. Love the 911 truth movement. (Official Killers Of Your Boogieman)
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![]() Stranger Registered: 06/15/02 Posts: 15,608 |
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Quote: ???? I have been exposed to about every "9/11 was a government operation" conspiracy theory and I have found them all to be paranoid bullshit with no basis in reality.
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![]() horrid asshole ![]() Registered: 02/11/04 Posts: 81,741 Loc: Fractallife's gy Last seen: 7 years, 6 months |
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"Your such a brainwashed follower"
"Your simple mind can not compute" "When the truth does comes out you will be one of the sheep telling everyone that you knew it all the time. You will because the lack of backbone you have shown so far indicates that you won?t be able to stomach yourself when you see how easy this case is to crack and how only a complete moron can not understand that they have been lied to after being shown the evidence. Yes You!" "You are in a word pathetic. You are in a phrase, ?a pathetic liability to the future of this country?. You are in my book expendable. Yes You!" There's more of this in this moron's screed but it all comes down to this. "You are a deluded tool of the ChimpyMcBushalliburton hegemony. Yes You. Only by signing on to MY TRUTH can you be redeemed" Beautiful stuff. Does this retard actually think he will convince anyone of anything with this bilge? "Oh you are so right Oh wise Master of Reality. Now I see the light. My eyes are open. Thank you thank you thank you. Now, when did you say that ship from Venus will be coming?"
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![]() Stranger Registered: 06/15/02 Posts: 15,608 |
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How hilarious is it that the author makes such blatant grammar mistakes?
"Your" should be "You're". Duhh.....
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![]() Errorist ![]() ![]() ![]() Registered: 03/06/02 Posts: 27,508 Loc: To the limit! Last seen: 1 hour, 36 minutes |
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I think you give the US government too much credit.
The main thing that they lie about, is what a good job they're doing. That's the big lie. The fact is, all government does more harm than good. Sometimes it's because of corruption. Most of the time it's caused by incompetence. George W. Bush is just some overgrown frat boy, not a stupid evil genius. -------------------- Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ (•_•) <) )~ ANTIFA / \ \(•_•) ( (> SUPER / \ (•_•) <) )> SOLDIERS / \
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![]() Stranger Registered: 06/15/02 Posts: 15,608 |
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Quote: Your lying! Your brainwashed! This brilliant opus of investigative journalism was written by the highly respected and renowned "Dan". Enough said. Edited by RandalFlagg (03/19/06 08:58 AM)
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![]() controlleddemoli ![]() Registered: 03/01/01 Posts: 970 |
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Quote: And i think you are giving OBL way too much credit.
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![]() Stranger Registered: 06/15/02 Posts: 15,608 |
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You replied to the wrong person.
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![]() Prince of Bugs ![]() ![]() ![]() Registered: 10/08/02 Posts: 44,175 Last seen: 1 month, 18 days |
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Quote: Hate is a powerful thing.
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![]() Stranger Registered: 06/15/02 Posts: 15,608 |
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"Dan" is a powerful thing.
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![]() controlleddemoli ![]() Registered: 03/01/01 Posts: 970 |
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Ignorance is an even more powerful thing.
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![]() Stranger Registered: 06/15/02 Posts: 15,608 |
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Quote: Your right.
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![]() horrid asshole ![]() Registered: 02/11/04 Posts: 81,741 Loc: Fractallife's gy Last seen: 7 years, 6 months |
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Stupidity>Ignorance
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![]() The Innovator ![]() ![]() ![]() Registered: 05/25/05 Posts: 1,074 Last seen: 12 years, 6 months |
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"You were told things that were blatant lies backed up by no hard evidence and you do not care enough about your country to question your daddy government."
Okay I get the first half of that sentence, but I think the second half belongs to the other sides argument, silly billy. Anyway although I haven't done a huge amount of researhch, I will not block the possibility of our government causing 9/11 simply because 1) The disaster allowed reason for war, resulting huge profits for haliburton (and obviously Mr. Bush got a slice of the pie) 2) It strengthened Bush's approval rating 3) The disaster is a perfect scare tactic to allow the government to expand it power 4) Bush had the report of a very accurate description of what would happen on the terrorist attack, and he left it alone and did not do anything to alert America 5) We all know the sworn testimony of Richard Clarke, he said this under oath. "The president dragged me into a room with a couple of other people, shut the door and said, 'I want you to find whether Iraq did this.' I said, 'Mr. President, there's no connection.' He came back at me and said, "Iraq. Saddam. Find out if there's a connection.' We got together all the FBI experts, all the CIA experts. They all cleared the report, and we sent it up to the president and it got bounced by the national security advisor or deputy. It got bounced and was sent back saying, 'Wrong answer. Do it again.' And I don't think he" -- I'm continuing the quote from Richard Clarke -- "I don't think he, the president, sees memos that he wouldn't like the answer," 6) I've seen two news reports, one saying that the ID card of a terrorist floated out from the plane and landed safely on the ground for police to conveniently find, and I've seen another report that said the black box, which could withstand explosions and fire of plane crashes, was in one report "not usable" because of damage according to the G.A. and in another "had unimportant information" according to the FBI. So how does one survive and not the other, so conviniently? Hey I'm not saying it's true but I'm saying being totally loyal to your government would allow such an evil master plot to go unchecked and unnoticed. People have to remember that you have to have fear of your government, the fact of the matter is these rich snooty old white men had to step on a lot of people to get where they are today, so what makes you think they care about you? They're in it for themselves, not all of them, but when you're rich all your life, have gotten old and are close to dying, and are an ex-drug addict you may qualify for a person to A) Not give a shit about the average American because you feel you are better B) Not have any morals because that part of your brain is gone from drugs C) Not care what they figure out in the future because your years are almost up D) Gain profit with any means possible because that's what business men/mafia leaders do. -------------------- I don't think for myself. I think as though I'm explaining my thoughts to someone else. I'm concerned only for those listening. Edited by beatnicknick (03/19/06 09:54 AM)
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![]() controlleddemoli ![]() Registered: 03/01/01 Posts: 970 |
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Yes, i'm so stupid and ignorant.....You guys are right, it was all a big coincidence. I just found this piece and it seems the writer is right....all one big coincidence.
The Coincidence Theorist's Guide to 9/11 Happy coincidenting! That governments have permitted terrorist acts against their own people, and have even themselves been perpetrators in order to find strategic advantage is quite likely true, but this is the United States we're talking about. That intelligence agencies, financiers, terrorists and narco-criminals have a long history together is well established, but the Nugan Hand Bank, BCCI, Banco Ambrosiano, the P2 Lodge, the CIA/Mafia anti-Castro/Kennedy alliance, Iran/Contra and the rest were a long time ago, so there?s no need to rehash all that. That was then, this is now! That Jonathan Bush?s Riggs Bank has been found guilty of laundering terrorist funds and fined a US-record $25 million must embarrass his nephew George, but it's still no justification for leaping to paranoid conclusions. That George Bush's brother Marvin sat on the board of the Kuwaiti-owned company which provided electronic security to the World Trade Centre, Dulles Airport and United Airlines means nothing more than you must admit those Bush boys have done alright for themselves. That George Bush found success as a businessman only after the investment of Osama?s brother Salem and reputed al Qaeda financier Khalid bin Mahfouz is just one of those things - one of those crazy things. That Osama bin Laden is known to have been an asset of US foreign policy in no way implies he still is. That al Qaeda was active in the Balkan conflict, fighting on the same side as the US as recently as 1999, while the US protected its cells, is merely one of history's little aberrations. The claims of Michael Springman, State Department veteran of the Jeddah visa bureau, that the CIA ran the office and issued visas to al Qaeda members so they could receive training in the United States, sound like the sour grapes of someone who was fired for making such wild accusations. That one of George Bush's first acts as President, in January 2001, was to end the two-year deployment of attack submarines which were positioned within striking distance of al Qaeda's Afghanistan camps, even as the group's guilt for the Cole bombing was established, proves that a transition from one administration to the next is never an easy task. That so many influential figures in and close to the Bush White House had expressed, just a year before the attacks, the need for a "new Pearl Harbor" before their militarist ambitions could be fulfilled, demonstrates nothing more than the accidental virtue of being in the right place at the right time. That the company PTECH, founded by a Saudi financier placed on America?s Terrorist Watch List in October 2001, had access to the FAA?s entire computer system for two years before the 9/11 attack, means he must not have been such a threat after all. That whistleblower Indira Singh was told to keep her mouth shut and forget what she learned when she took her concerns about PTECH to her employers and federal authorities, suggests she lacked the big picture. And that the Chief Auditor for JP Morgan Chase told Singh repeatedly, as she answered questions about who supplied her with what information, that "that person should be killed," suggests he should take an anger management seminar. That on May 8, 2001, Dick Cheney took upon himself the job of co-ordinating a response to domestic terror attacks even as he was crafting the administration?s energy policy which bore implications for America's military, circumventing the established infrastructure and ignoring the recommendations of the Hart-Rudman report, merely shows the VP to be someone who finds it hard to delegate. That the standing order which covered the shooting down of hijacked aircraft was altered on June 1, 2001, taking discretion away from field commanders and placing it solely in the hands of the Secretary of Defense, is simply poor planning and unfortunate timing. Fortunately the error has been corrected, as the order was rescinded shortly after 9/11. That in the weeks before 9/11, FBI agent Colleen Rowley found her investigation of Zacarias Moussaoui so perversely thwarted that her colleagues joked that bin Laden had a mole at the FBI, proves the stress-relieving virtue of humour in the workplace. That Dave Frasca of the FBI?s Radical Fundamentalist Unit received a promotion after quashing multiple, urgent requests for investigations into al Qaeda assets training at flight schools in the summer of 2001 does appear on the surface odd, but undoubtedly there's a good reason for it, quite possibly classified. That FBI informant Randy Glass, working an undercover sting, was told by Pakistani intelligence operatives that the World Trade Center towers were coming down, and that his repeated warnings which continued until weeks before the attacks, including the mention of planes used as weapons, were ignored by federal authorities, is simply one of the many "What Ifs" of that tragic day. That over the summer of 2001 Washington received many urgent, senior-level warnings from foreign intelligence agencies and governments - including those of Germany, France, Great Britain, Russia, Egypt, Israel, Morocco, Afghanistan and others - of impending terror attacks using hijacked aircraft and did nothing, demonstrates the pressing need for a new Intelligence Czar. That John Ashcroft stopped flying commercial aircraft in July 2001 on account of security considerations had nothing to do with warnings regarding September 11, because he said so to the 9/11 Commission. That former lead counsel for the House David Schippers says he?d taken to John Ashcroft?s office specific warnings he?d learned from FBI agents in New York of an impending attack ? even naming the proposed dates, names of the hijackers and the targets ? and that the investigations had been stymied and the agents threatened, proves nothing but David Schipper?s pathetic need for attention. That Garth Nicolson received two warnings from contacts in the intelligence community and one from a North African head of state, which included specific site, date and source of the attacks, and passed the information to the Defense Department and the National Security Council to evidently no effect, clearly amounts to nothing, since virtually nobody has ever heard of him. That in the months prior to September 11, self-described US intelligence operative Delmart Vreeland sought, from a Toronto jail cell, to get US and Canadian authorities to heed his warning of his accidental discovery of impending catastrophic attacks is worthless, since Vreeland was a dubious character, notwithstanding the fact that many of his claims have since been proven true. That FBI Special Investigator Robert Wright claims that agents assigned to intelligence operations actually protect terrorists from investigation and prosecution, that the FBI shut down his probe into terrorist training camps, and that he was removed from a money-laundering case that had a direct link to terrorism, sounds like yet more sour grapes from a disgruntled employee. That George Bush had plans to invade Afghanistan on his desk before 9/11 demonstrates only the value of being prepared. The suggestion that securing a pipeline across Afghanistan figured into the White House?s calculations is as ludicrous as the assertion that oil played a part in determining war in Iraq. That Afghanistan is once again the world?s principal heroin producer is an unfortunate reality, but to claim the CIA is still actively involved in the narcotics trade is to presume bad faith on the part of the agency. Mahmood Ahmed, chief of Pakistan?s ISI, must not have authorized an al Qaeda payment of $100,000 to Mohammed Atta days before the attacks, and was not meeting with senior Washington officials over the week of 9/11, because I didn?t read anything about him in the official report. That Porter Goss met with Ahmed the morning of September 11 in his capacity as Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence has no bearing whatsoever upon his recent selection by the White House to head the Central Intelligence Agency. That Goss's congressional seat encompasses the 9/11 hijackers' Florida base of operation, including their flight schools, is precisely the kind of meaningless factoid a conspiracy theorist would bring up. It's true that George HW Bush and Dick Cheney spent the evening of September 10 alone in the Oval Office, but what's wrong with old colleagues catching up? And it's true that George HW Bush and Shafig bin Laden, Osama's brother, spent the morning of September 11 together at a board meeting of the Carlyle Group, but the bin Ladens are a big family. That FEMA arrived in New York on Sept 10 to prepare for a scheduled biowarfare drill, and had a triage centre ready to go that was larger and better equipped than the one that was lost in the collapse of WTC 7, was a lucky twist of fate. Newsweek?s report that senior Pentagon officials cancelled flights on Sept 10 for the following day on account of security concerns is only newsworthy because of what happened the following morning. That George Bush's telephone logs for September 11 do not exist should surprise no one, given the confusion of the day. That Mohamed Atta attended the International Officer's School at Maxwell Air Force Base, that Abdulaziz Alomari attended Brooks Air Force Base Aerospace Medical School, that Saeed Alghamdi attended the Defense Language Institute in Monterey merely shows it is a small world, after all. That Lt Col Steve Butler, Vice Chancellor for student affairs of the Defense Language Institute during Alghamdi's terms, was disciplined, removed from his post and threatened with court martial when he wrote "Bush knew of the impending attacks on America. He did nothing to warn the American people because he needed this war on terrorism. What is...contemptible is the President of the United States not telling the American people what he knows for political gain," is the least that should have happened for such disrespect shown his Commander in Chief. That Mohammed Atta dressed like a Mafioso, had a stripper girlfriend, smuggled drugs, was already a licensed pilot when he entered the US, enjoyed pork chops, drank to excess and did cocaine, was closer to Europeans than Arabs in Florida, and included the names of defence contractors on his email list, proves how dangerous the radical fundamentalist Muslim can be. That 43 lbs of heroin was found on board the Lear Jet owned by Wally Hilliard, the owner of Atta?s flight school, just three weeks after Atta enrolled ? the biggest seizure ever in Central Florida ? was just bad luck. That Hilliard was not charged shows how specious the claims for conspiracy truly are. That Hilliard?s plane had made 30-round trips to Venezuela with the same passengers who always paid cash, that the plane had been supplied by a pair of drug smugglers who had also outfitted CIA drug runner Barry Seal, and that 9/11 commissioner Richard ben-Veniste had been Seal?s attorney before Seal?s murder, shows nothing but the lengths to which conspiracists will go to draw sinister conclusions. Reports of insider trading on 9/11 are false, because the SEC investigated and found only respectable investors who will remain nameless involved, and no terrorists, so the windfall profit-taking was merely, as ever, coincidental. That heightened security for the World Trade Centre was lifted immediately prior to the attacks illustrates that it always happens when you least expect it. That Hani Hanjour, the pilot of Flight 77, was so incompetent he could not fly a Cessna in August, but in September managed to fly a 767 at excessive speed into a spiraling, 270-degree descent and a level impact of the first floor of the Pentagon, on the only side that was virtually empty and had been hardened to withstand a terrorist attack, merely demonstrates that people can do almost anything once they set their minds to it. That none of the flight data recorders were said to be recoverable even though they were located in the tail sections, and that until 9/11, no solid-state recorder in a catastrophic crash had been unrecoverable, shows how there's a first time for everything. That Mohammed Atta left a uniform, a will, a Koran, his driver's license and a "how to fly planes" video in his rental car at the airport means he had other things on his mind. The mention of Israelis with links to military-intelligence having been arrested on Sept 11 videotaping and celebrating the attacks, of an Israeli espionage ring surveiling DEA and defense installations and trailing the hijackers, and of a warning of impending attacks delivered to the Israeli company Odigo two hours before the first plane hit, does not deserve a response. That the stories also appeared in publications such as Ha'aretz and Forward is a sad display of self-hatred among certain elements of the Israeli media. That multiple military wargames and simulations were underway the morning of 9/11 ? one simulating the crash of a plane into a building; another, a live-fly simulation of multiple hijackings ? and took many interceptors away from the eastern seaboard and confused field commanders as to which was a real hijacked aircraft and which was a hoax, was a bizarre coincidence, but no less a coincidence. That the National Military Command Center ops director asked a rookie substitute to stand his watch at 8:30 am on Sept. 11 is nothing more than bad timing. That a recording made Sept 11 of air traffic controllers? describing what they had witnessed, was destroyed by an FAA official who crushed it in his hand, cut the tape into little pieces and dropped them in different trash cans around the building, is something no doubt that overzealous official wishes he could undo. That the FBI knew precisely which Florida flight schools to descend upon hours after the attacks should make every American feel safer knowing their federal agents are on the ball. That a former flight school executive believes the hijackers were "double agents," and says about Atta and associates, "Early on I gleaned that these guys had government protection. They were let into this country for a specific purpose," and was visited by the FBI just four hours after the attacks to intimidate him into silence, proves he's an unreliable witness, for the simple reason there is no conspiracy. That Jeb Bush was on board an aircraft that removed flight school records to Washington in the middle of the night on Sept 12th demonstrates how seriously the governor takes the issue of national security. To insinuate evil motive from the mercy flights of bin Laden family members and Saudi royals after 9/11 shows the sickness of the conspiratorial mindset. Le Figaro?s report in October 2001, known to have originated with French intelligence, that the CIA met Osama bin Laden in a Dubai hospital in July 2001, proves again the perfidy of the French. That the tape in which bin Laden claims responsibility for the attacks was released by the State Department after having been found providentially by US forces in Afghanistan, and depicts a fattened Osama with a broader face and a flatter nose, proves Osama, and Osama alone, masterminded 9/11. That at the battle of Tora Bora, where bin Laden was surrounded on three sides, Special Forces received no order to advance and capture him and were forced to stand and watch as two Russian-made helicopters flew into the area where bin Laden was believed hiding, loaded up passengers and returned to Pakistan, demonstrates how confusing the modern battlefield can be. That upon returning to Fort Bragg from Tora Bora, the same Special Operations troops who had been stood down from capturing bin Laden, suffered a unusual spree of murder/suicides, is nothing more than a series of senseless tragedies. Reports that bin Laden is currently receiving periodic dialysis treatment in a Pakistani medical hospital are simply too incredible to be true. That the White House went on Cipro September 11 shows the foresightedness of America?s emergency response. That the anthrax was mailed to perceived liberal media and the Democratic leadership demonstrates only the perversity of the terrorist psyche. That the anthrax attacks appeared to silence opponents of the Patriot Act shows only that appearances can be deceiving. That the Ames-strain anthrax was found to have originated at Fort Detrick, and was beyond the capability of all but a few labs to refine, underscores the importance of allowing the investigation to continue without the distraction of absurd conspiracy theories. That Republican guru Grover Norquist has been found to have aided financiers and supporters of Islamic terror to gain access to the Bush White House, and is a founder of the Islamic Institute, which the Treasury Department believes to be a source of funding for al Qaeda, suggests Norquist is at worst, naive, and at best, needs a wider circle of friends. That the Department of Justice consistently chooses to see accused 9/11 plotters go free rather than permit the courtroom testimony of al Qaeda leaders in American custody looks bad, but only because we don't have all the facts. That the White House balked at any inquiry into the events of 9/11, then starved it of funds and stonewalled it, was unfortunate, but since the commission didn't find for conspiracy it's all a non issue anyway. That the 9/11 commission's executive director and "gatekeeper," Philip Zelikow, was so closely involved in the events under investigation that he testified before the the commission as part of the inquiry, shows only an apparent conflict of interest. That commission chair Thomas Kean is, like George Bush, a Texas oil executive who had business dealings with reputed al Qaeda financier Khalid bin Mafouz, suggests Texas is smaller than they say it is. That co-chair Lee Hamilton has a history as a Bush family "fixer," including clearing Bush Sr of the claims arising from the 1980 "October Surprise", is of no concern, since only conspiracists believe there was such a thing as an October Surprise. That FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds accuses the agency of intentionally fudging specific pre-9/11 warnings and harboring a foreign espionage ring in its translation department, and claims she witnessed evidence of the semi-official infrastructure of money-laundering and narcotics trade behind the attacks, is of no account, since John Ashcroft has gagged her with the rare invocation of "State Secrets Privilege," and retroactively classified her public testimony. For the sake of national security, let us speak no more of her. That, when commenting on Edmond's case, Daniel Ellsberg remarked that Ashcroft could go to prison for his part in a cover-up, suggests Ellsberg is giving comfort to the terrorists, and could, if he doesn't wise up, find himself declared an enemy combatant. I could go on. And on and on. But I trust you get the point. Which is simply this: there are no secrets, an American government would never accept civilian casualties for geostrategic gain, and conspiracies are for the weak-minded and gullible. http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0408/S00221.htm
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We really should have a "Conspiracy Theory" subforum to keep this forum clear of this junk.
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Quote: Show me proof that President Bush has received any money because of Halliburton contracts. Quote: For a while. Now his numbers are in the toilet. Quote: True. Quote: Government officials get reports like that all of the time. Do you know how many people out there hate America and want to attack the U.S.? Should the government run to the presses whenever Omar What's-his-name from BumFuck-istan blabs about how he'd like to blow up the White House?
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Quote: Your right.
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You brought up the idea that ignorance was a powerful thing. I made an assertion that stupidity is even more powerful. Ignorance can be overcome through education. Stupidity is terminal.
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1) The disaster allowed reason for war, resulting huge profits for haliburton (and obviously Mr. Bush got a slice of the pie)
Show me proof that President Bush has received any money because of Halliburton contracts. There may or may not be evidence out there as proof of it, but it makes complete sense if you put the facts together. But yes I haven't found proof, not that it really has any affect on my argument if you look at everything else. 2) It strengthened Bush's approval rating For a while. Now his numbers are in the toilet. Haha exactly, and for good reason. 3) The disaster is a perfect scare tactic to allow the government to expand it power True. Not gonna try and argue that one. 4) Bush had the report of a very accurate description of what would happen on the terrorist attack, and he left it alone and did not do anything to alert America Government officials get reports like that all of the time. Do you know how many people out there hate America and want to attack the U.S.? Should the government run to the presses whenever Omar What's-his-name from BumFuck-istan blabs about how he'd like to blow up the White House? Yes, they should, it would save lives. Even if we have 1 true threat in a hundred false claims. All of them would be worth investigation. -------------------- I don't think for myself. I think as though I'm explaining my thoughts to someone else. I'm concerned only for those listening. Edited by beatnicknick (03/19/06 10:27 AM)
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