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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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OfflineMarkostheGnostic
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Re: Acid trip = bible? [Re: psyillyazul]
    #5448558 - 03/27/06 06:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Probably was a time, when 'expectation' (an important aspect relied upon in hypnosis), plus the pomp & majesty, architecture and stained glass, choir and priest in luxurious vestments, all contributed to a state of holy awe. Ever been in Cologne Cathedral or Westminster Abbey, for example? These kinds of structures blow my mind even today - like the 'cathedrals of light' that fill my mind during a beautiful entheogenic excursion, these vaults and arches of mind obviously came to ancient visionaries who were able to fix those visions in stone and glass. The Eucharist was the heart of the Mass and the reception of it was a 'material aid' to contemplation.

At the time that these things could shift the consciousness of the faithful, life was a great deal simpler than today. Today, we need to use the 'material aid' of entheogens to help us cut through the deep encrusted layers of modern bulls**t: a lifetime of TV programming, reinforcing the materialistic consumerism of the American 'Matrix'; the gadget-crazy mentality of late adolescents who would have cell phone components implanted surgically in their heads if possible. I Pods and Gameboys, vulgar hip-hop materialism with all the trimmings, etc.

[On a side note]: I live in south Florida - Miami-Dade County. It's funny that the TV show 'CSI - Miami' (on tonight at 10) is shot through filters making the sky and water surrealistically blue, the grass Disney-cartoon green, and everyone, a golden color. In reality, Miami is the 5th poorest city in the USA, high unemployment, lots of Cuban, Haitian and African-American ghettos, anti-intellectualism runs high, totally nude full alcohol strip clubs abound, no high culture but LOTS of vulgar street culture - a big steaming pile, Miami is. The TV show is a great example to one familiar with the reality to see how (as the Catholics put it) the "glamour of Satan" - the illusion of Maya, is employed to sell this city. I very very rarely meet anyone who realizes The Matrix of it all, is sick of it, and who wants to transcend the bulls**t.

The churches aren't working, and the individual young people aren't seeking transcendence, by-and-large, from what I can see. I don't know if, as Ram Dass' Guru Neem Karolie Baba's perception that "LSD is like Christ in America" applies any longer. The Guru said that the most materialistic country on earth needed to find God in the form of a material. That perception seemed to apply to many of us back in the day, but I'm not seeing any evidence of it 30 years later - not in Florida anyway - the penis (peninsula) of the USA in which Miami is a syphillitic shanker.


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Re: Acid trip = bible? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #5450891 - 03/28/06 11:13 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Chalk it up... Here we come. Every wonder how under the rule of the Church we strayed so far?? How the authority could so drastically miss the mark?? Or whether the world will be willing to learn this time...?? I fear a bait and switch at critical mass.


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Re: Acid trip = bible? [Re: psyillyazul]
    #5454765 - 03/29/06 11:15 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Just a thought. If you don't dig dangling... How about erect?? You ever visit the space needle?? Archetypes... Sheesh!!


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Re: Acid trip = bible? [Re: psyillyazul]
    #5544025 - 04/22/06 12:39 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

you make it man??


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Re: Acid trip = bible? [Re: thepos]
    #5547353 - 04/23/06 12:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

When I was in high school I heard my friend suggest the bible was written by drunks. I was very offended. Nowadays I wish it was written by drunks.


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Re: Acid trip = bible? [Re: RedNucleus]
    #5550366 - 04/24/06 07:59 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

drunk on that cup-o'CHRIST.


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Re: Acid trip = bible? [Re: Deviate]
    #6012789 - 08/30/06 06:28 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Deviate said:
i dissagree with your theory that the bible itself was based on drug trips, as far as i know, psychedelics weren't that popular among the people responsible for writing the bible and you seem to be forgetting that mystical experiences can (and traditionally do) occur without drugs. i think it's a mistake to assume that any out of the ordinary experience must automatically be a result of a hallucinogenic drug. its kinda like those people who whenever they read a strange poem or book, assume the author must have been on drugs when he wrote it.




What if the human mind created a chemical that induced a psychedelic trip which allowed you to see the __dual reality__ that peyote princess had reffered to? Well there is a convincing study that explains how one could have these mystical experiences.

DMT: The Spirit Molecule: A Doctor's Revolutionary Research into the Biology of Near-Death and Mystical Experiences, by Rick Strassman MD

^Have only read the intro and I pretty excited to read this!^


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Re: Acid trip = bible? [Re: musicturkey]
    #6014253 - 08/31/06 12:31 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

not to dispute your ideas or anything but i find when im on acid, espesialy when its dark out, i can manifest pretty much and pattern/symbol/charictor visualy. if i think about the star of david, here they come flying in from the moonlight. the visual aspect of lsd seems to be directly linked to the imagination. as oposed to shrooms wich seems to distort the quality of what already is.


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