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2mgs DOC - My farewell to psychedelics.
    #5416124 - 03/18/06 02:44 PM (17 years, 14 days ago)

49 hours ago my girlfriend and I each took 2mgs of DOC. I had some doubts as to whether or not the material had fully dissolved in the alcohol, so the dose may have been slightly higher or lower. This was our first experience with a 'research chemical.' We're both fairly experienced with mushrooms, mescaline, and MDMA, and have had one low dose LSD experience. I'll try to reconstruct and recall what I can of the experience, but as I've been awake and stimulated for close to two days now (I did manage to sleep a few hours, THANK GOD, last night) I'm going to have to guess at the times of events.

T+0:20 - First alert feeling. A bit of anxiety and a lot of yawning. Very slow, gentle come-up. We decided to walk around town to rid ourselves of some of the excess energy.

t+1:00 - We're back in our apartment laying in our bed. I feel a distinctive phenethylamine softness reminiscent of MDMA and an insistent languor that mescaline can give. I am full of energy, but can do little more than lay down. We both feel a bit of nausea, nothing too serious. In retrospect, we should not have dosed so soon after breakfast.

t+1:20 - Our bodies feel great, our moods are elated, if not a bit anxious, and we decide to go swimming. Its a relatively nice day for march, and we alternate between the pool and Jacuzzi of our apartment complex. This was the most sensually pleasant portion of the trip. Swimming underwater was absolutely stunning. Lots of playfulness and feeling like we were kids again. I felt an unprecedented amount of freedom. Sometime during this period I decided that DOC was my favorite drug--euphoric and sensual, yet lighter and less pushy than MDMA.

t+2:30 - Shower time. Sex did not happen. What I described as a 'global current' began to build up in my nervous system. I felt like I was flowing with electricity. My fingers stuck together. My jaw became tight and my fists clenched. My body had weird preferential movements; when I rinsed off my face, for example, my fingers would attract their counterparts on the opposite hand symmetrically, like magnets. I felt like my nervous system had become one great big electromagnet, with strange currents and attractive/repulsive forces. This stimulation would eventually keep me up for 38 hours strait. Reading other DOC reports, I did not expect so much of a body load. It was certainly manageable, and during the euphoric period of the trip, quite pleasant.
t+3:00 ? Peak begins. We decide to walk around town again. I sent my girlfriend into a store to get some Gatorade, as I felt I could not function. I had a tough time walking strait. The electricity is getting stronger. When she was inside, I held onto a fence and got steadily immersed in a land of visuals. This reminded me a lot of mushrooms, where visuals and depth can be summoned by simply touching and staring. As I stared at the path we had come up, I lost all sense of gravity, perspective, and direction. Hints of entities peaked out of the trees, but not the mushroom entities. These seemed to be symptoms of a synthetically altered brain, rather than ever-present spirits. This is an important theme: I rejected the reality of the trip in a way I have never done before. Whether or not this was due to the synthetic nature of the chemical itself, I don?t know. I just felt ?too? good, and ?too? fucked up. I felt I wasn?t seeing into the true nature of reality, but rather was seeing what my own brain could do when sufficiently perturbed with chemicals.

T+4:00 ? I walk off balance. Visuals are aggressive. Lights shine. I feel like Hunter S. Thompson in Fear and Loathing. Totally fucked. But strangely powerful. I feel like I have taken in the whole world, and perhaps I am God? I begin to have insights into the nature of acid-heads. This is not meant to offend anybody and is based on pure speculation. But I started to think that this ?power,? was manacing, alluring, and ultimately build on a house of cards. I felt like I could convince myself of paranormal activity, psychic senses, synchronicities. But ultimately, I thought, all this stuff is crap. A fool?s game the psychedelic head plays on one?s self because he/she likes feeling like they are ?special,? privy to some secret club of extraordinary knowledge. The power felt seductive and sick.

T+5:30 ? I am skirting the edge of psychosis like never before. I feel like I may go up to strangers and act irresponsibly. Lights are exploding around me. Aural hallucinations galore. I?ve tripped harder off mushrooms, but I?ve never been so fucked up, in a certain explosive way, in my life. My girlfriend is tripping nicely, but at a much lighter level (as is typical, she has a much higher resistance to these things than I do, apparently). We ride a glass elevator up and down 35 floors. I feel some of the seductive power again. This is OUR elevator. We are the only people in history to take DOC and ride up and down in a glass elevator. I am slick and cool. I am so much more savvy and daring than the rest of those schmucks out there. I can do anything. The little voice of reason is diminishing.

T+6:00 ? We return to the apartment. The visuals are still increasing. I read Shulgin?s DOC report (I assume I can tell who wrote which report, though they are un-named because I have read Pikhal and am super smart). The report begins ?Here I am at the sixth hour, and I am still roaring along at a full plus three.? I feel the same way. A creeping paranoia begins, which I?ve never felt before on any drug. I hear audial hallucinations, and look up to see a strange speaker. Who put it there? The ceiling is writhing along, with detail, depth, and power. Strange octopus forms stretch tentacles out from the periphery and threaten to dose me with more electricity. The charge is powerful and disconcerting. My ego is fragmented; I am part scared, part amazed, part seduced by my new power, part repulsed by it. I know I am on DOC, I know what is and what is not real.

T+6:30 ? The most memorable visual of the trip: I urinate a blue drop, which lands three feet away from the toilet and turns into a dime. I pick the dime up. I am disgusted. These are not the holy visuals of mushrooms and mescaline?these are dirty, untrue, fucked up, aggressive, and threatening visuals. Still, I am not afraid. I have a pushy euphoria carrying me through?I am emotionally numb in certain ways, and feel incapable of true fear. I am manic.

T+8:00 ? Somewhere I slip out of the peak and down into a plus two. The visuals are not as insistent, though they do retain their force and power if I let them. I can, if I chose, ignore them at this point. We took out paints and painted a large canvas. It was beautiful and fun, and I love my girlfriend. Feeling better. Play guitar faster and more beautifully than ever before. I am not proud, however, of my newfound capabilities. I feel like I am hurting myself with this stuff, created by Mammon, and will pay a dear price for it. Like Robert Johnson, I have made a deal with the devil.

T+10:00 ? Girlfriend goes to sleep, I cannot sit still. I have entered the second stage of DOC intoxication. Obsessive thinking, reading, self analysis. Am I as witty as the rest of the authors of DOC trip reports on Erowid? Am I cool? Am I smart? Do I fit in? DOC provides, I decide, an incredible wit and sense of humor. I like being so smart. Its gross. What is happening to my ego?

Basically at this point I sit up all night reading Buddhist doctrine and DOC trip reports. I am wondering when sleep will come. My girlfriend seems to be sleeping fine. Eventually I am too fried to read. I sit in the bathroom with the light on, tweaking, shitting weird diarrhea, miserable. I try sleeping a bunch of times, not a chance. The stimulation is enormous and prevents me from sleeping. I remember particular CEV?s of gwar-style death. Dripping bloody killing machines. They do not frighten me, but they do make me feel like I am damaging my brain. Fuck. Take 2mgs xanax, it does nothing. Stay up tweaking out all night long.

T+24:00. Girlfriend is awake. I am feeling better. Eat breakfast at a nice caf?, feel witty and alert. I am euphoric because there is a long lasting phenethylamine in my body, and dysphonic because I am hurting myself and cannot sleep. I relax and enjoy the cognitive enhancement. We bum around all day, taking walks, went to the library. I feel compelled to do SOMETHING at all times. I cannot sit still. I am tweaking. I?ve never tried Meth, but it sounds like the most unappetizing experience on the face of the earth.

T+30:00 ? We visit with some friends who go to college out of state. Tell them about the DOC. I am witty and cool. I am so smart. I feel guilty for having ordered drugs off the internet and giving them to my girlfriend. I am exhausted and stimulated. Dinner, movie, drive home. I hope and pray to God I will sleep. I am done with psychedelics, uppers, downers, what have you, forever. I long to feel natural again. I want to be a better person, more honest, more balanced, more caring, and drugs, I realize, have been getting in the way.

T+36:00 ? Laying in the dark, incapable of sleep, incapable of reading. My imagination is fried. I have never been so miserable. Why the fuck can?t I sleep. I can?t remember how to do it. I have no thoughts, no fugues, nothing. I will my subconscious to enter and dissolve me into blessed sleep, but nothing comes. I cannot get my body temp stable; I shiver, I sweat. I compulsively get up and look at my eyes in the bathroom every half hour. They are still dilated! I still have the electric current (though it has died down to about 5 percent of its peak levels). I complain to my girlfriend, who suggests that I just shut up and don?t move.

T+38:00 - Finally, after laying still for what feels like hours, bored to tears, I enter a kind of jackhammer world. I feel like various parts of my body are connected to incredibly powerful vibrating machines. I am elated and afraid. Something is happening.

I wake up two hours later. Did I sleep or pass out? I am repairing. My eyes are no longer dilated. The electricity is all but gone. I sleep some more.

And that brings us up to right now.

Conclusions: DOC was fun, felt good, and for the first few hours was truly the perfect drug. Tweaking out for 38 hours strait without redosing on anything was the worst thing I have ever experienced. I decided sometime through the trip that my obsession with chemically altered states, which started with my first drink of alcohol, has come to an end. I have learned a lot of psychedelics and will always value them, but for the time being, I am through.

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Re: 2mgs DOC - My farewell to psychedelics. [Re: Noviseer]
    #5416159 - 03/18/06 02:59 PM (17 years, 14 days ago)

It took me more than two weeks to fully integrate my 1st DOC trip (haven't gone back since, but intend to). What you mentioned about feeling one degree removed from living in the hallucinations (these are the result of my brain being saturated with drugs!) I think is something that is worth fully exploring. Even with something as powerful as LSD, the feeling of ego-loss can sometimes be rationally eliminated after the fact... when you know that the YOU who you identify with is the one that is having the experience, it's different. BUT, at the same time it has some of the same character as the deep LSD type mind-trip. Sorry for the rambling... your report was really well written and I relate to an extent I doubt you understand :grin:.

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Re: 2mgs DOC - My farewell to psychedelics. [Re: Mezcal]
    #5416801 - 03/18/06 06:39 PM (17 years, 14 days ago)

this sounds very similar to my round on approx 3.4mg of DOI.
I fully smpathise with the 'tweaking' feeling, like that's what a meth head feels like on the 5th day of a binge, and it's not pretty. I too said I was never touching psychedlics again, but after some good sleep, food and good company, I was back to the headset of trying to locate some good, clean acid.
DOI (I know, probably completely differemt) honestly made me feel like a tweaker and made my body look extremely unhealthy for a couple of days.
Not to mention that god awful taste in my mouth.

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Re: 2mgs DOC - My farewell to psychedelics. [Re: Noviseer]
    #5418048 - 03/19/06 07:17 AM (17 years, 14 days ago)

The little voice of reason is diminishing.

I've had three sessions now since early December.  The first was very mixed - 3mg, the second was beautiful magic - 1.5mg, and third was just disgusting - 2mg.  It certainly is not as benign as others report and i never had problems getting to sleep.

I too get the feeling that our bodies do not like this substance, even if others say the body-load is minimal.

I complain to my girlfriend, who suggests that I just shut up and don?t move.

:grin:, sorry I got a good laugh out of that one.

I want to be a better person, more honest, more balanced, more caring, and drugs, I realize, have been getting in the way.

Now that you have made this realization and have put these thoughts in to writing, the values you seek should be closer to reach.  I have thrown myself into gardening and feel a whole lot better.  May many blessings come your way, thanks for sharing :sun:


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Re: 2mgs DOC - My farewell to psychedelics. [Re: namaste]
    #5428811 - 03/22/06 06:56 AM (17 years, 11 days ago)

I love DOI and DOC ,,, I used to use DOI daily when I stopped taking Prozac, like 500 mic or something just to get my mind going .... never had any problems with sleeping after 8 or 10 hours ... Sometimes I can go to sleep and still wake up with a buzz

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Re: 2mgs DOC - My farewell to psychedelics. [Re: benrules92]
    #5429225 - 03/22/06 09:40 AM (17 years, 10 days ago)

It seems to have a wide range of body-load for different people, varying from none at all to really freakin' bad. i'm done with the 2Cs and DOs myself, i've been playing with these a few years now and don't see any long-term benefits.  different strokes for different folks, man.  Peace :sun:


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