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Peyote problem
#5415862 - 03/18/06 01:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Damn! I was checking my cactus today, and I have two peyote that are maybe four years old (not sure, I got them in a trade). Well, the sides are soft and slightly discolored. Something is wrong, and I'm frightened that they are going to turn into a pile of mush. I'd rather just have two dry buttons than lose them completely while trying to save them. What is the best way to salvage these two buttons? I'm probably going to just pull them out of the soil and dry them as quick as possible. Should I cut off the soft spots, or is that just inviting more trouble? Thanks for the advice, folks.
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Re: Peyote problem [Re: ToolTroll]
#5415886 - 03/18/06 01:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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u could probably help them out by giving them some nutrients.. have u tried any fertilizer's.. the softening and lose of color are probably just from a lack of nutrients
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Re: Peyote problem [Re: Banez]
#5415895 - 03/18/06 01:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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No, I'm sure it's not lack of nutrients. It's a tissue problem, I got some sort of rot going on. I'm too lazy to do a search of cactus diseases, so I'm not sure what it is. I'm pretty sure though that it would be safer and easier if I just pulled them from the soil and dried them for future use. I would hate to completely lose them...
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Re: Peyote problem [Re: ToolTroll]
#5415904 - 03/18/06 01:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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tissue problems are usually either caused by a lack of nutrients (which u ruled out).. or by bacteria or fungus attacking the plant.. if u dont want to deal with it.. it wouldnt be a bad idea to go ahead and pull em and dry em out..
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Re: Peyote problem [Re: ToolTroll]
#5415908 - 03/18/06 01:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Did you overwater? Did they catch a cold draft maybe?
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Re: Peyote problem [Re: Schwip]
#5415927 - 03/18/06 01:30 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I seriously doubt it is an overwatering issue. I have only watered them thrice in six months, and they are under 18 hours of flouro light, so they aren't dormant. It's a slight possibility that they received a little cold air in the lat week or two, could that have caused this?
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Re: Peyote problem [Re: ToolTroll]
#5415954 - 03/18/06 01:42 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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if its rot you need to find a way to cut off any sign of rot as soon as possible and try to root whatever you have left otherwise i think you will loose them pretty quick
i would recommend trying to ask for help at the cactus forum at the nook perhaps
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Re: Peyote problem [Re: ToolTroll]
#5416273 - 03/18/06 03:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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either way if you poke around online for info on cacit ailments and it turns out to be rot.....
you may be able to cut the afflicted parts from them....the wounds should then callus over....
also i think there are several commercial products available for rot?
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Re: Peyote problem [Re: ToolTroll]
#5416707 - 03/18/06 06:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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i'm assuming its winter over there and you are trying to grow them in their dormancy. Cacti can't survive very long without a winter rest period. Too much heat (cause by indoor lighting) and add a bit of water and a sensitive plant will rot.
Its better to keep them some place cold and dry with a bit of natural light for the winter. If they are mushy and discoloured then its a good idea to cut out the potential rot. If they are just soft however I would leave them dry.
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Re: Peyote problem [Re: ToolTroll]
#5468723 - 04/01/06 07:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sounds like necrosis. Too much heart, cold, or water will kill a peyote fast. Make sure you dont have lights on them at all times either, they must be in the dark to transpirate.
Peyote like most cactus can survive with a very very low amount of nutrients, i doubt thats the problem.
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Re: Peyote problem [Re: ToolTroll]
#5468730 - 04/01/06 07:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sounds like necrosis. Too much heart, cold, or water will kill a peyote fast. Make sure you don't have lights on them at all times either, they must be in the dark to transpire.
Peyote like most cactus can survive with a very very low amount of nutrients, i doubt thats the problem.
Did yours die yet, mine got too cold and got killed.
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Does it seem to be getting any better yet? If not you can scalp it and reroot the top. If the rootstock ends up surviving it will either grow a single new head or start kicking out many little pups. This will give you a chance to save your original cactus and possibly produce more little ones.
If they are still in the pot and you don't want to cut them, PM me I have another idea.
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Re: Peyote problem [Re: cricket]
#5472224 - 04/02/06 08:33 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey - So the soft tissue has not gotten any softer nor has it spread. Same colorI left the buttons in their pots but put them in a different environment, out of direct lighting, in the corner of my bedroom. The soil mix is dry at this point, and I guess I feel that if it were going to go real bad, it would have happened by now. To clarify, they have been under a 4 foot flouro shop light, 18 hours of light a day, room temperature, and I was not planning on giving them a dormant period. I am hesitant to cut into the buttons for any sort of grafting, cuz I've had some bad luck with grafting cactus in the past. I've been practicing with my pereskiopsis, but no successful grafts yet... So should I just let them chill in their pots, put them in a dormant stage, and let them rest? It would be awesome if they were just tired out and needed a winter. Oh, and will the slight scarring from these spots remain? Thanks for the help y'all. I wish I had my camera to take a picture, but it's in the repair shop. Hopefully they will still be doing fine when I get my camera back, and I'll post up a pic or two.
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Re: Peyote problem [Re: ToolTroll]
#5472261 - 04/02/06 08:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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if the room is cold but not freezing and you can provide some morning or afternoon light from a window i think they should be ok.
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Re: Peyote problem [Re: ToolTroll]
#5475568 - 04/03/06 04:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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All my little cacti got neems and started to soften. So I chopped them up and drank them in tea and boy if that wasn't the worst the single worst tasting thing ever. I'm pretty sure I got a special buzz from the probably main alkaloid of anhaladine which itself was very calming and pretty nice. If you have peyotes and other small cacti in pots then definitely never leave the pots on the ground or where there might be water runoff. Small pests are their greatest danger prollololy.
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Re: Peyote problem [Re: eve69]
#5502637 - 04/11/06 08:17 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Do you have an update?
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