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Offlineyourwar
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Permanent Effects
    #5412238 - 03/17/06 10:56 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I was just wondering if it was possible to gain certain permanent side effects from doing mushrooms? I did them last wednesday and ever since I get dizzy spells if I move my head to fast. This never happened until I shroomed. Anyway, please let me know! Thanks in advance.

-yourwar


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Re: Permanent Effects [Re: yourwar]
    #5412246 - 03/17/06 10:59 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Maybe stop moving your head around so fast? It generally looks pretty skethy and cracked out... This sounds like it has to do with blood pressure and it's perfectly normal, you just probably never noticed it before... Although while shrooms do affect and play with your blood pressure it may have somehow affected your circulatory system but nothing I'd worry about


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Re: Permanent Effects [Re: StickyWater]
    #5412254 - 03/17/06 11:01 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Well its not like I sit there and shake my head like crazy. It's just like if I turn to look at something and look at it, everything will keep spinning for a few seconds. It dosn't happen everytime, but half the time it does.


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Re: Permanent Effects [Re: yourwar]
    #5412303 - 03/17/06 11:13 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

again, sounds like blood pressure, or going out on a bit of a stretch some form of HPPD? (doubt it) Either way, as long as it's not interfering with your life it's not a big problem, unless you've had problems with your blood pressure in the past, then maybe consider just getting that checked to make sure nothing more serious is going on, but even then... I sometimes come close to blacking out when I stand up too fast, lots of people do, try to learn to enjoy it I guess...


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Re: Permanent Effects [Re: yourwar]
    #5412376 - 03/17/06 11:36 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I had the same thing happen reciently. It's not permenant. Get lots of rest, eat foods your body wants, get plenty to drink. I won't get into detail, but along with the bad, you may notice some good lingering side effects, how you feel inside and how you look at the world. I did. Relax and enjoy. Exercise helps, just don't push yourself too hard. You should be 95% in a week or two. The rest will come soon enough. Don't do shrooms for a while.

I had a flashback when smoking weed 4 days later (not complaining :smile:. Seriously though, RnR is the best medicine.

Rahz


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Re: Permanent Effects [Re: Rahz]
    #5412490 - 03/17/06 12:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Permanent effects? Yes. Anybody who tells you there are not permanent side effects from tripping is lying to your face. I'm in my early 30's, I've been tripping since I was 18, but I've only done shrooms a handfull of times. Until the addition of a wife and 4 kids, LSD was my thing, recently, I've started my own "farm". In my years of vacationing in Psychedelphia, I've never run into anyone who didn't have some lasting effect, mostly that their eyes were openned. Noone's ever really the same, whether it's for better or worse is up to you. As far as shaking your head and getting a free buzz...well, I'm not sure what the problem is...lol...j/k. You'll be ok, man. If it's a huge issue with you, I would suggest not tripping anymore.


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Re: Permanent Effects [Re: ComfortablyStond]
    #5413275 - 03/17/06 03:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

The longest effect shrooms give you is a new belief system. You'll never view the world the same, even if you can't remember your trips.


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Re: Permanent Effects [Re: IwantELVES]
    #5414134 - 03/17/06 06:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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IwantELVES said:
The longest effect shrooms give you is a new belief system.  You'll never view the world the same, even if you can't remember your trips.




I totally agree with you. It was the first time for me doing mushrooms and I am kind of a different person. For example: I'm 10 years older than my little brother and I have always been kind of a dick to him, when I was on mushrooms I kept closing my eyes and picturing what it would be like if I walked in his bedroom and he was dead. It freaked me out and made me really sad and I have been treating him A LOT better as I always will from now on.

That is only 1 of the many things that the shrooms made me realize... I could go on forever.. or close to it. Anyway, thanks for all your helpful advice people!  :mushroom2:


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Re: Permanent Effects [Re: yourwar]
    #5414461 - 03/17/06 08:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, shrooms have definitely opened up my belief systems....almost to a negative degree. They made me realize much wrong and evil exists in the world, and it was depressing. So its not all positive enlightenment. But I also have learned a tremendous amount of positive, awesome, brilliant insights, and they have outweighed the bad.

Overall, I feel they have made me much (for lack of a better word) wiser.


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Re: Permanent Effects [Re: IwantELVES]
    #5414586 - 03/17/06 09:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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IwantELVES said:
The longest effect shrooms give you is a new belief system. You'll never view the world the same, even if you can't remember your trips.




I think that many people would agree that HPPD can last an entire lifetime...


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Re: Permanent Effects [Re: dr0mni]
    #5414620 - 03/17/06 09:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Here is my personal story about hppd. Its not detailed at all, and doesnt really explain it. But its a short read and its true----> http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5414531/an/0/page/0
Its a thread I just made and I hope someone responds to it.
Its mainly about what smokable substances I can still use without experiencing massive visuals along with the typical cognative trip effects. If you read it, know its true, and I have been tripping without the use of any drugs for about two years, have learned a great deal from it, and have learned how to assimilate with my old self(but only to the extent that I want to). For me, Hppd was a gift more than it was a curse. Though it did really upset me occasionally for some time. Im talking serious, but not by any means debilitating HPPD. It has been nothing less than pure enlightenment, even when it got to be very negative at times.


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Re: Permanent Effects [Re: stemmer]
    #5414763 - 03/17/06 11:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

What is HPPD? What does it stand for? This is the first time I have heard of it.  :confused:


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Re: Permanent Effects [Re: yourwar]
    #5414816 - 03/17/06 11:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder

Its less of a disorder, but more of a very interesting effect that happens after one uses hallucinogens for many years.

It is more interesting when people have problems with it after only using a few times. I have used every hallucinogen except for research chemicals. And after about 160 trips Hppd just happened with full force. It does often go away. Lsd and mushrooms both can cause this. Anyone who has taken 600+ mics of lsd knows how common it is to at the very least see visuals for quite a long time. 2 years tops. SOme people can be ruined by it. A good friend of mine was one of those people who changed dramatically from one heavy dose. He had much experience with other hallucinogens, but a heavy dose of DXM was too much for him. His HPPD was not enlightening after that, it became very hard for him to deal with. He changed for the worse(latent mental problems became a reality for him).

He killed himself.

I know that any strong dose I have ever done has lasted a long time, as do even the small doses. After a long time, or for some people, a short time, the trips become a part of you. For some this is a very good thing, for some its not so good.


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Re: Permanent Effects [Re: stemmer]
    #5416154 - 03/18/06 02:58 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Interesting... Thanks for the very detailed explanation on the topic! I hope I don't have some kind of minor case of HPPD from doing mushrooms once... Then again I can't say I don't like the quick 10 second trips that randomly pop up. It was a little distracting today however when I was trying to take an important test.  :crazy:


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Re: Permanent Effects [Re: yourwar]
    #5416239 - 03/18/06 03:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i had my first real shroom trip last night and it was very very intense,
i used 100% lemon, orange, and cranberry juice to enhance it and im pretty sure it worked, although i dont have much experience with it. i tried shrooms twice in the past week and last night was the first time i really had a trip. it was an 1/8 with large caps. i dont feel any different at all, not visualy or mentally or anything.


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Re: Permanent Effects [Re: enderwood]
    #5416976 - 03/18/06 07:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Well its not like I sit there and shake my head like crazy.




LMFAO!!!


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Re: Permanent Effects [Re: inv3rse]
    #5417021 - 03/18/06 07:59 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

damn, this is one hell of a downer post, haha. with any drug you put into your body theres always gonna be some kind of after effect that lasts for a period of time, weather that be a 2 hour period of time in which you feel groggy and out of it after smoking ALOT of weed, or full blow HPPD that can effect you for your whole life. the good news is with about 99.9% of these after effects you can either learn to live with it and love it, or you can break down and burn out, its up to you. life is perception and depending on how you percive things you could either enjoy the gift of life for as long as you have it, or you can suffer and be unhappy. the weirdest thing about life is how many people go through it simply unaware that they are unhappy.


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