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Radiant
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Hpoo Substrate Depth
#5410427 - 03/16/06 10:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey everyone im back with some more questions on my monotub setup god I love this thing lol. Anyways if I get a 5lb bag of hpoo and spawn 6 1/2 pints of brf to it in a 23x17 sterlite container how deep would my substrate layer be. And how much coco coir do I need to take of my brick to make the casing layer? I wish there were better guidlines to this type of stuff but oh well maybe one of you knows. Oh and one more thing ive got 6 brf jars colinizing and 2 of them look like they have green mold at the injection sites but they are also like 90% colinized with mycellium so will the mycellium overtake the mean green or should I cut it off with a knife or somethin? Thanks shroomerites your a invaluable resource
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Re: Hpoo Substrate Depth [Re: Radiant]
#5410452 - 03/16/06 10:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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First off, I wouldn't use coir as a casing, too many nutes. As for substrate depth, that depends on how big you want your shrooms. A 5-6" depth works good for some bigguns.
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Re: Hpoo Substrate Depth [Re: FooMan]
#5410470 - 03/16/06 10:14 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well coco coir and verm is all I have for casing now but next grow ill be switching to the 50/50 plus. And I didnt mean how deep should I make the substrate layer what I meant was what's the deepest I could possibly get it with 5lbs hpoo and 6 1/2 pints of spawn. I was thinkin that it would be around 2" so would this still be enough for big shrooms since it has such a large surface area or is it the depth that makes the difference?
Edited by Radiant (03/16/06 10:17 PM)
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Re: Hpoo Substrate Depth [Re: Radiant]
#5410482 - 03/16/06 10:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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well you could make it several feet deep you just would have no surface area. you its up to you. you can make a 1 inch deep layer and ahve more surface area if you dont' care about size. you still end up with the same yield.. few big guys or many little guys.
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Re: Hpoo Substrate Depth [Re: skeletor]
#5410571 - 03/16/06 10:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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ok now I get it thanks skeletor. And do you know anything about the contam problem I had in 2 of my cakes will the green mold get overtaken by the mycellium? Also should I make 8 holes in my monotub or just 6 like it shows in ohmatics design? Also will I need about a quarter of a brick of coco coir for my casing layer?
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Re: Hpoo Substrate Depth [Re: Radiant]
#5410649 - 03/16/06 11:11 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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green mold will always beat your myc. it reprodes way faster myc won't beat out any contams or else they wouldn't be a problem. i would stick to the tek, unless you know better... i dunno whatever teh casing tek asks do a search on it. i don't use that stuff so im not sure.
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Re: Hpoo Substrate Depth [Re: Radiant]
#5410947 - 03/17/06 12:34 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Radiant said:
Anyways if I get a 5lb bag of hpoo and spawn 6 1/2 pints of brf to it in a 23x17 sterlite container how deep would my substrate layer be.
And how much coco coir do I need to take of my brick to make the casing layer?
I wish there were better guidlines to this type of stuff but oh well maybe one of you knows.
1st question...you will end up with less than 2" of substrate with that amount of horse poo...in that size container.
2nd question...just take 1/4" sliver off the brick of Coco Coir.
and my guidline is in my head on ammount needed...from experience.
Your Verm and Coco Coir casing layer will be fine!~ Just don't let the casing layer get over colonized. As soon as the mycelium starts to poke through...fruit the casing. I never have problems with my 60/40 or 70/30 Verm and Coco Coir casing layers.
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Re: Hpoo Substrate Depth [Re: Roadkill]
#5411109 - 03/17/06 01:27 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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ok sweet thanks for all the good info roadkill I nominate you for hpoo king lol. So are you saying that the substrate depth will be ok and Ill get the yields that you would normally expect to get from 5lbs hpoo in a monotub? Also isnt a 1/4" of the brick not very much at all I was thinkin more like a 1/4 of the whole brick please clarify and thanks alot.
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Re: Hpoo Substrate Depth [Re: Radiant]
#5414448 - 03/17/06 08:28 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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you will get good yeilds....no worries.
you would get larger fruits from using a deeper thickness of substrate.
there is no need in breaking off too much Coco Coir.
a 1/4" sliver should be plenty...it will hydrate and become alot after adding water.
if you come up a little short...just hydrate some more.
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Re: Hpoo Substrate Depth [Re: Roadkill]
#5414594 - 03/17/06 09:28 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't know fellows, I think I'm with Blue Helix on the substrate depth. I really don't see a need for a deep substrate when you are using manure. The substrate is solid, holds enormous potential for retaining moisture, and is packed with nutrients. I have a grow going right now using a substrate depth of 1-1/2" with two 50 quart tubs. I'll post the results over the coming weeks on the flush size. Hopefully I won't embarrass myself with a shitty pinset.
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