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which is the best mmorpg
#5408764 - 03/16/06 02:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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everquest 2,world of warcraft,dark age of cameolot or guiladwars?
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Only played WoW but I am thoroughly addicted.
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wow.
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Re: which is the best mmorpg [Re: Shroomism]
#5408870 - 03/16/06 03:13 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I played the Original Everquest (no expansions even!) back in '99 and '00, does this qualify me to randomly guess on this question?
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goobler
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WOW
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baraka



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WoW hands down.
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Re: which is the best mmorpg [Re: baraka]
#5408946 - 03/16/06 03:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Star Wars Galaxies
(just kidding)
WoW would be the best, but thats not saying much comparing it to the mmorpg community. WoW sucks.
Edited by Freeker (03/16/06 03:34 PM)
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Trippy_Search
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Re: which is the best mmorpg [Re: Freeker]
#5409002 - 03/16/06 03:44 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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no contest man WOW its fuckin crazy good man
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inoculatedGreif
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None! have you seen the new might and magic game? the graphics are amazing. its like morrowind but 100 times better. I guess they got valve, the people who came up with the game engine for halflife 2, to let them use the engine. youve got to check it out, its awsome. words cant describe it..
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Himejime
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None of them kept my interest for over 6 months...wish they would make a new one
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Re: which is the best mmorpg [Re: Himejime]
#5409126 - 03/16/06 04:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I was addicted to Lineage 2, but it was a terrible game
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daoc owns wow, wow is not a good game, it is only good because it is popular. It has introduced exactly nothing new to mmorpgs. I hear d&d will release some new stuff with grea pve
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OMFG WoW FTW lolz
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Re: which is the best mmorpg [Re: muse_sick]
#5409377 - 03/16/06 05:12 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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WoW is good til you get to 60.
Don't bother. I wish I never started.
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Re: which is the best mmorpg [Re: muse_sick]
#5409381 - 03/16/06 05:13 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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nothing new? bull. I havnt seen a game that you can fight dragons in scale. Im not a perticular fan of wow, but they do have stuff ive never seen before.(mainly the dragons.)
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daoc has dragons
has been around awhile...
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Re: which is the best mmorpg [Re: Toad_Stool]
#5410100 - 03/16/06 08:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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WoW is best, addictive,D&D is based around dungeons kindo hence the name... so its not like freetoroam type game which impo is crap..
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Re: which is the best mmorpg [Re: Mcrae]
#5410224 - 03/16/06 09:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I played EQ for 4+ years - was in one of the top guilds in the game, had loads of fun, but it kinda burnt me out on MMORPGs.
I beta tested DAoC for a few phases in beta (even got my name in the manual as a 'beta thanks', not sure if its in the newer ones, but was in the original box), then played for 3-4 months into retail then quit, I had gotten so many characters to max levels in beta and played the fuck out of it like an addict. I loved the PvP in the game, added a really nice touch - I had fun owning 24 main keep raids with a single group, thnx to over-powered AE mez back in the day 
WoW is 'meh', got to level 32 and lost interest - it was much the same as EQ, just with more 'polish' really. Yeah, the questing is cool, but in the end, it always just felt like grinding but prettier.
The MMORPG that I LOVED, and I wish I could get back into it, is Ultima Online.
For its time, that game hands down beats the shit out of every other current MMORPG. But trying to start 'new' in that game now is a pain in the ass, and the interface/graphics just dont quite live upto todays games and just feels really dated.
The depth of gameplay in UO, the PvM and PvP were great. The depth of game play and the tactics you could pull off were allways fun. Its probably the only MMORPG where I had FUN fighting monsters, and I'd go hunting just for the fun of hunting. In EQ/WoW/DAoC, 99% of the hunting I did, is because I /had/ to hunt to get to the next level/whatever, I very rarely 'went grinding for the fun of it'.
In UO, with a bard/mage combo - it was the funnest PvM in any mmorpg I've had 
Toss in PvP, player housing, player run towns/vendors, the best trade-skill and player-run item system.
I really wish OSI would do a UO2 that simply modernized it for the year 2006, but keep with game they had in the UO:T2A area (their first real expansion).
*note: I used to be a huge MMORPG nerd in highschool - dont play them anymore now, dont have the time or the patience for them.
Edited by kaniz (03/16/06 09:04 PM)
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RuNE
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I'm addicted to WoW.
At first you look at it and think "god damn its cartoony." Like i did. And look at me now. It grows on you badly.
However, this doesnt mean its the best. Its almost moving too fast for its own good, and certain 'rooted' abilites and aspects of the game that were 'bugged' are causing serious problems now, especialy when theyre 'fixed'. One of those major ones would be the whole PVP aspect. WoW started out as a PvE game mostly. PvP servers were around for realism and fun. You meet the enemy, and you fight. The end.
Then they introduced Honor points. Things went fuckign haywire. There are players now that only play the game for PvP. Blizzard now has a giant weight on themselves because half of their subscribers are obsessed with something that was never given much thought in the original design. DPS (damage) is outpacing ......well everything. Healing and armour dont do much against multiple 3000 crits. If they upped the ability to heal or defend against these, it would instantaniously collapse all the PvE aspects of the game. Even the hardest current instances would be childs play.
What im trying to say is...... It sucks when a game pulls you in, and then gets slowly changed around by the developers into something thats not balanced very well.
I dont even know if i love it or hate it anymore. 
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Re: which is the best mmorpg [Re: RuNE]
#5410283 - 03/16/06 09:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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pve in mmo's = /yawn after awhile. PVP is where it's at, it's what keeps it interesting.
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Re: which is the best mmorpg [Re: unbeliever]
#5410287 - 03/16/06 09:21 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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SWG use to be a very fun MMORPG.
Especially unlocking Jedi when it was hard as fuck to get, that was very satisfying, unfortunately that game went to shit.
I should be getting WOW soon.
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RuNE
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Re: which is the best mmorpg [Re: unbeliever]
#5410293 - 03/16/06 09:23 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm not disagreeing with that fact... I'm saying the game design is flawed to begin with. (in terms of PvP)
I actualy enjoy PvP quite a bit.
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Re: which is the best mmorpg [Re: Animals]
#5410300 - 03/16/06 09:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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warcraft is a classic. you say its just popular, theres a reason for it, warcrat 1and2 where genius. the third one was awsome and wow they took it up a notch.
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right now...world of warcraft. it's an awesome game. very addicting though
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kaniz
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Re: which is the best mmorpg [Re: duggan18]
#5411593 - 03/17/06 07:34 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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A huge part of WoWs popularity and sucess comes from the Blizzard name. I do agree of the current MMORPGs - it's probably one of the best ones. The graphics are top-notch, the game play is greatly smoothed out, and they have sort of taken the 'suck' out of the game that previous genres had.
That being said - at the end of the day, it still feels like I'm using the same tactics, the same 3 or 4 buttons, to grind on the same monsters all day. /yawn
In UO, if I wanted to - every other fight could be differnt. How I tackled killing a Balron, was different then a titan, I could face a monster head on, or provoke it.
I could teleport to a ledge and rain down fire from above with spells, or cast an energywall, teleport to the other side, see the monsters get stuck on the wall I created, then cast a blade spirit on the other side and go invis so it would attack them.
I would need to run, move, be on my toes and have to adapt. You had so many tricks up your sleve that PvE stayed interesting.
In WoW, for solo PvE, the most 'complex' things got, is if I got jumped by an extra monster, used my war-stomp to stun them and start running kinda thing. But, every fight was
- cast the same totems - pull with the lighting spell - when in range, do my instant DD with a DoT - follow up with my other instant DD - melee, and re-cast instant-DDs as they refresh
/yawn
Not very often that was mixed up.
Group dynamics were a bit more interesting, but I found that since I had odd play-hours, and rarely had more then an hour to dedicate at a time to the game - finding a group was pretty rare.
All around, MMORPGs as a whole just bore me (as do most games actually).
I'm keeping my eye out for VG:SoH, it looks promising, but I'm not gushing over it.
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Re: which is the best mmorpg [Re: kaniz]
#5411783 - 03/17/06 08:37 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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WoW is okay, if you need an undetectable hack for it, PM me. DAoC is dead, do not bother. EQ flopped, do not bother. GW is very popular and has no subscription fees.
GW is a lot more like Diablo 2, WoW is more like EQ1 or that kind of MMO.
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Re: which is the best mmorpg [Re: theuser]
#5413488 - 03/17/06 04:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've played rpgs since the first zelda and nethack. I was addicted to dragonrealms (text-based mmorpg) for years, along with several others. Then Starcraft, EQ, UO, SWG, DAOC, Diablo, Warcraft3.. WoW is the most complete imo. The game doesn't start until you get to 60. Sure it can seem a little cartoony, and a lot of kids and chinese farmers play it. The other thing I don't like about it is the honor system is totally fucked.. and the Battlegrounds limit world pvp a lot. PvP in WoW kind of sucks compared to a lot of mmorpgs - it relies more on class makeup and gear than actual skill - but I still enjoy it more than I ever did UO or EQ. EQ was an endless, endless grind. EQ2 just sucks. The best part of the game is after you reach 60 and do some end-game instances with an organized guild. Then you tear shit up in PvP. And they will be releasing an expansion sometime.. raising the level cap to 70 and adding a ton of new end game content. Overall it's held my interest better than most mmorpgs I've played over the years.
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