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poll ..your fate in the death(?) camp (repost)...
    #5408018 - 03/16/06 12:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

before you vote..bear in mind that the conditions in both places named below are identical...the difference is that in one you will be killed or allowed to die..whereas in the other those conditions could be maintained indefinitely (and a conscious effort made to do so)...
would you rather go guantanamo or auschwitz?...
You may choose only one


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Re: poll ..your fate in the death(?) camp (repost)... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #5408083 - 03/16/06 12:21 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

conditions at guantanamo identical to conditions at auschwitz?

give me a fucking break.










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Re: poll ..your fate in the death(?) camp (repost)... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #5408087 - 03/16/06 12:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Annapurna1 said:
before you vote..bear in mind that the conditions in both places named below are identical...



False


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Re: poll ..your fate in the death(?) camp (repost)... [Re: wilshire]
    #5408783 - 03/16/06 02:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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wilshire said:
conditions at guantanamo identical to conditions at auschwitz?

give me a fucking break.













no..i guess they cant be the same..if ones in colour and the other B/W...and do you really think the nazis allowed those pics to circulate??...


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Re: poll ..your fate in the death(?) camp (repost)... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #5408818 - 03/16/06 03:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I don't agree that they are the same, as nothing is ever the same.

However it is absouloutly TRUE, that many in guantanimo have attempted to kill themselves through starvation and been force fed through tubes inserted into thier stomaches...(while conscience)... in an effort to keep them alive.

It's my opinion that this is done so that the comparison cannot be made between THIS "prison" camp, and those of the nazi's...

Some of these people...(kept without trial or oversight of any reasonable kind)...LONG for death...but are FORCED to stay alive, without trial and without hope...

SHAME ON EVERYONE who lets this sort of brutality take place in modern society.

The attitude that is prevalent in American today society is the EXACT attitude that led to a regime such as Hitlers to exist in the first place...

Think about it, and do the research, please...


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Re: poll ..your fate in the death(?) camp (repost)... [Re: Prajna]
    #5409051 - 03/16/06 03:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Prajna, answer a question honestly for me, please.

If the authorities at Guantanamo were to let prisoners who choose to stop eating starve themselves to death, would you denounce or applaud their (the authorities, that is) decision?



Phred


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Re: poll ..your fate in the death(?) camp (repost)... [Re: Silversoul]
    #5409114 - 03/16/06 04:12 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Annapurna1 said:
before you vote..bear in mind that the conditions in both places named below are identical...



Wow. Hey look everybody, its cute liberal over exageration! Good times for all. And Im sure Bush is like Hitler right, Guantanamo is a fucking joke compared to Auschwitz.


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Re: poll ..your fate in the death(?) camp (repost)... [Re: TheCow]
    #5409184 - 03/16/06 04:27 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Club Gitmo


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Re: poll ..your fate in the death(?) camp (repost)... [Re: TheCow]
    #5409909 - 03/16/06 07:33 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Guantanamo is a fucking joke compared to Auschwitz.




that sounds like the guy on the train telling everyone that they were going to a "family camp"...


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Re: poll ..your fate in the death(?) camp (repost)... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #5409956 - 03/16/06 07:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Annapurna1 said:
Quote:

Guantanamo is a fucking joke compared to Auschwitz.




that sounds like the guy on the train telling everyone that they were going to a "family camp"...



:wtf:


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Re: poll ..your fate in the death(?) camp (repost)... [Re: Silversoul]
    #5410013 - 03/16/06 08:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Just out of curiousity, did you get that mostly harmless thing from Goldeneye?


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Re: poll ..your fate in the death(?) camp (repost)... [Re: TheCow]
    #5410046 - 03/16/06 08:11 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

TheCow said:
Just out of curiousity, did you get that mostly harmless thing from Goldeneye?



No, it's from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.


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Re: poll ..your fate in the death(?) camp (repost)... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #5410196 - 03/16/06 08:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Anna, this might be your worst thread, and that's saying a lot.

I've read a bit about both places. Neither is a haven, for sure. But Auschwitz is in an entirely different league of human suffering.

The only way in which gitmo could possibly be considered worse is the isolation factor. Truly cruel punishment.


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Re: poll ..your fate in the death(?) camp (repost)... [Re: Gijith]
    #5410215 - 03/16/06 09:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Second girl from the left at the bottom of pic four is pretty cute.


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Re: poll ..your fate in the death(?) camp (repost)... [Re: Phred]
    #5410282 - 03/16/06 09:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Ph red said:
Prajna, answer a question honestly for me, please.

If the authorities at Guantanamo were to let prisoners who choose to stop eating starve themselves to death, would you denounce or applaud their (the authorities, that is) decision?



Phred




Hey Phred,

It's a good point.

I know where you're going with this...and you know as well as I do that if any HAD starved themselves to death, I would be the first person on this board to scream bloody murder about it...

However, I think it's a lose-lose situation...

I don't object to keeping these people there, only to the WAY that they are kept there.

I have that ability to "put myself in their shoes", an emotion called compassion...and it's telling me that it is just WRONG to cage another human being without presenting some sort of evidence of their wrongdoing to the public in general...

It's not that I don't believe in punishment for criminal acts, it's that I believe that "human rights" are being attacked by this venture.

As an American under your own constitution, you should be an example to the entire WORLD on how people SHOULD act toward each other, you know, LIBERTY, JUSTICE, FREEDOM, RIGHTS TO A FAIR TRIAL BY PEERS... all that high moral stuff that you preach...

If you guys actually practiced what you preached then I wouldn't even care about the issue. Because I would be content that these people had been tried on evidence by their peers and were guilty of some crime.

Truth is though, the Americans have not extended the AWESOME principals behind the constitution to the situation in Guantanamo, and have instead chosen to treat other HUMAN BEINGS like animals...

My GOD will not let this injustice sit well on my conscience...

So no I would not be happy either way...

As long as I can imagine even a possibility of an innocent man, crying over his son or daughter that he misses, in a prison with no trials or hope, then I will always think that those who jail him are evil...

I like to think it's because I am a compassionate human being...


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Re: poll ..your fate in the death(?) camp (repost)... [Re: Gijith]
    #5410920 - 03/17/06 12:22 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Auschwitz is in an entirely different league of human suffering.




you dont know that any more than i do...ill repeat my earlier post ..there is not enough information coming out of gunatanamo to prove or disprove your statement...however..auschwitz was the classic example of the "not enough information" scenario..and evidence from abu ghraib and other sites points in this direction...


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Re: poll ..your fate in the death(?) camp (repost)... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #5410930 - 03/17/06 12:27 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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there is not enough information coming out of gunatanamo to prove or disprove your statement...



Are you suggesting that we don't know whether or not millions of Arabs are being taken from their homes, poisoned, and then buried in mass graves?


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Re: poll ..your fate in the death(?) camp (repost)... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #5411370 - 03/17/06 05:02 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for fixing the poll... I understand this one.  :smile:


It is an incorrect claim that conditions within guantanamo and auschwitz are identical.  Because of this, the poll is fairly meaningless.  However, if I had to make a choice, I would choose guantanamo over aushwitz without hesitation.


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Re: poll ..your fate in the death(?) camp (repost)... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #5411434 - 03/17/06 05:58 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

there is not enough information coming out of gunatanamo to prove or disprove your statement...

yeah, maybe guantanamo bay is secretly as bad as auschwitz. maybe there's a whole secret underground area hidden from outside eyes where prisoners are starved, worked, and frozen to death, where they are subjected to cruel and bizarre medical experiments. maybe they are constantly surrounded by death. maybe there is even a secret genocide program there.

is there any evidence to support such notions? if yes, let's have it. if no, why do you believe this to be the case anyway? do you normally believe things for which there is not a shred of evidence?


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Re: poll ..your fate in the death(?) camp (repost)... [Re: wilshire]
    #5411797 - 03/17/06 08:41 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

wilshire said:
do you normally believe things for which there is not a shred of evidence? 



Do you really have to ask? :smirk:


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