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Offlinedaimyo
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Too Weak to Run? Die!
    #5407785 - 03/16/06 11:04 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

THE harrowing images captured by a surveillance camera showed that the black teenager was beaten to death by drill instructors at a Florida boot camp.

An official coroner blamed natural causes, but yesterday the truth began to emerge as a second post-morten established that Martin Anderson, 14, had met a violent death. His tragic fate and the subsequent cover-up have renewed calls for boot camps to be closed across the US.

The boy?s parents had asked for the body to be exhumed after footage from security cameras was found showing seven instructors raining down ?hammer strikes? on his limp body. A camp nurse is seen in the video standing by and watching with her hands on her hips.

?My opinion is, he died because of what you see in the videotape,? Dr Michael Baden, a former New York City coroner hired by the boy?s family to help to conduct the second examination, told investigators.

The post-mortem disproved a pathologist?s previous ruling that the boy died of a blood disorder unrelated to the assault.

Gina Jones, his mother, said: ?I?m glad that I did make the right decision to pull my baby out of the ground. Now that the truth is out, I want justice. I want the guards and nurses to be arrested. It?s time.? Martin Anderson entered the Bay County boot camp near Panama City, Florida, in January after violating a probation order for stealing his grandmother?s car from a church parking lot with his cousins.

On his first day, January 5, he collapsed while being made to run laps. Security cameras showed that the instructors had earlier beaten, kneed and choked the boy. Their punishment left his limp body ?flailing like a rag doll,? Dr Baden said.Yet Charles Siebert, the Bay County medical examiner, had ruled that Anderson?s death was caused by a pre-existing blood problem known as sickle cell trait.

His conclusion prompted an outcry and claims of a cover-up. Dr Siebert?s reliability was further called into question when a woman came forward to reveal that in 2004 he conducted a post-mortem on her daughter in which he wrongly said that the woman had testicles and a prostate gland.

Boot camps operate on the philosophy that offenders must be broken down through military-style drills before they can be built back up. Almost a third closed between 1995 and 2000 after opening in 27 states from the 1980s.

Accusations of brutality by guards, and statistics proving the inefficacy of a system that had been heralded as a means of reducing crime, saw the regime fall from favour.

A report commissioned by the US Department of Justice in 2003 concluded that while participants recorded positive changes in attitude, behaviour, problem-solving and coping skills, the benefits were only short term. In the long term, there was no impact on recidivism rates, it said.

Two years later, the US Bureau of Prisons decided to close its 14-year boot camp programme, which at its peak involved 7,000 inmates in 27 states. But a number of states have stuck by their own programmes, including Florida, despite figures from the Juvenile Justice Department showing that the state?s recidivism rate has increased.

The Bay County camp is being closed but others in Florida will remain open. Prosecutors have opened an investigation into Martin?s death, as has the US Justice Department?s Civil Rights Division, which is looking into whether the youth?s race was a factor.

TOUGH REGIME

  • State boot camps are used for young offenders as an alternative to incarceration or probation

  • The first of Florida?s five boot camps was opened in 1993. There are over 50 across the US, housing around 4,500 offenders

  • Maryland?s boot camp programme was temporarily suspended in 1999 after juveniles alleged that guards had thrown them through windows, stuck thumbs in their eyes and conducted beatings

  • In a South Dakota boot camp in July 1999, 14-year-old Gina Score died after a forced run

  • Studies have found juvenile boot camps to be no better than traditional methods at deterring crime or preventing re-offending


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Re: Too Weak to Run? Die! [Re: daimyo]
    #5407830 - 03/16/06 11:14 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, I live in Florida, its is a fucked up situation.  This palce is the shitties run police in the world.  Wanna hear some mroe fucked up shtabout our corrections program down here, look up the powertrac scandal.  Police were charging the wrong people with crimes and convicting them to make numbers look good.  Bso is th mos teviliest thing in the world.  Don't fuck around in Florida, especially south florida.

Those cops who did that to that kid should be killed.
They swore an oath to uphold justice and protect us.  Then they turn around and effectively beat a kid to death because he could not  run any further. 

The have betrayed their oathes and desecrated theri vows, the most harsh punishment I wish for them.

This kid went  for a ride in his grandma's car, got convicted and then ulitmately faced the death penalty for something I did quite often as a teenager.

People think there is no ggod reason to hate  the police, fuck them.  They are an evil gang of evil men and women who aer so above the law they can do what they want and very rarely face reprimand for it.  Down with the doughnut eaters.:thumbdown:


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Offlinedaimyo
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Re: Too Weak to Run? Die! [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #5407927 - 03/16/06 11:41 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

nakors_junk_bag said:
Those cops who did that to that kid should be killed.



For sure. Beaten to death.


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Re: Too Weak to Run? Die! [Re: daimyo]
    #5407988 - 03/16/06 12:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Kill the nurse too. And probably the medical examiner, if further ties can be established. It's possible that he's just a moron though. Girls with ballz...


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Re: Too Weak to Run? Die! [Re: daimyo]
    #5408142 - 03/16/06 12:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Add me to the list that says kill those fuckers. If I had baseball bat and was within range I'd take care of it myself.
Sending kids to boot camps where their leaders are bigger criminals than they are? Fuck you government, you need a baseball bat to the head as well.


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Re: Too Weak to Run? Die! [Re: daimyo]
    #5408257 - 03/16/06 12:59 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

There are lots of fucked up places in the U.S., and outside the country that the court, or parents can stick children to "reform" them.
I was lucky, and made it into a boot-camp that for the most part treated us well. I heard horror stories from kids who had been to other boot camps, and wilderness programs in Texas. Beatings, Poor Medical care, being denied food, and sleep... etc


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Re: Too Weak to Run? Die! [Re: Dreamer987]
    #5408517 - 03/16/06 01:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

ZippoZ has some pretty fucked up stories about being abducted in the middle of the night by one of those programs and dragged down to Mexico...

I'll let him tell it, but just listening to it scares the shit out of me and makes me very glad I have reasonable parents...


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus


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Re: Too Weak to Run? Die! [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #5408539 - 03/16/06 01:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I don't live in florida, but I get florida WB and I saw it on the "local" news- pretty fucked up


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Re: Too Weak to Run? Die! *DELETED* [Re: Tattoo]
    #5408548 - 03/16/06 01:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Too Weak to Run? Die! [Re: Ferris]
    #5408553 - 03/16/06 01:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Shocked, no- but if you didn't care that'd be kinda bad


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