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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: mycogirl]
    #5404958 - 03/15/06 06:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

lol i didnt even catch that this was a method for feminizing seeds. i seem to miss out on alot today heh im gonna pay more attention to what is beein said in treads. yes listen to mycogirl she is completly correct.


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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: mycogirl]
    #5405045 - 03/15/06 06:35 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I am doing research. This is why i posted this here. Hopefully week can get as much data as possible, if people are prepared to try a few seeds this way. Sometime a chemical similar to ammonia is used buy virus's to weaken gene's/mutate them. I also remember hearing that a simalar process is needed in genetic engineering. These are only guesses.
All im asking is that people who can and are interested help me investigate this.

Anyway, gtg need sleep.
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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: DrJ]
    #5405082 - 03/15/06 06:41 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

No offense, but thats fucking stupid, soaking seeds in bleach water isn't going to do jack shit.


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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: ClammyJoe]
    #5405224 - 03/15/06 07:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I understand your sceptisim, but if your not interested never mind. I just think its worth investigeting so people try it if you like and get back to me if you don't want to ignore this. Neither here nor there, just thought it deserved to be mentioned.


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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: Herbus]
    #5405350 - 03/15/06 07:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

You can get hashplant from sensi seeds and others i think, and hashberry from manadala only. Definate breeding potential due to many crystals, tight buds and high THC levels.
Let me know what you plan crossing it with, maybe big bud?
Or crossed with my BB x NL could prove interesting, x with white strains may give you uber potent weed. Interesting thought dude, i shall try it i think.
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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: ClammyJoe]
    #5405395 - 03/15/06 07:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Are you talking about soaking seeds in ammonia or bleach??? You use the words interchangeably, and you referred to bleach containing ammonia, which it does not, or it would kill you.


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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: DrJ]
    #5405978 - 03/15/06 09:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

It is an intersting idea,worth some trys in a scientific enviroment with a control.

I picked up some 1% Gibb acid the other day after seeing it in that one thread about seed coats.

Im experimenting with it using a few different seeds.Im keeping a log of most of it to post eventually.The seeds I am using are:Areca catechu~Datura stramonium~Psychotria viridis(This is gonna be interesting I think,Im the most excited about this experiment!)~Mimosa hostilis~and Ipomoea violacea

Good luck DrJ,and thanks for the info mycogirl.


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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #5406047 - 03/15/06 09:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i would think a mild peroxide would work better.
it would be less toxic, sterilize the seedcoat, and inindate the vascular tissues with oxygen to give the germanation an early boost.
i base this of course on absolutely nothing, but it is the ides of march and "when in rome"


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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: Mitchnast]
    #5406151 - 03/15/06 09:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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but it is the ides of march and "when in rome"




hehehehe

Thanks for the info,I will throw it in my experiment and see what happens.


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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #5406496 - 03/15/06 10:58 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

No problem. Let me know how that GA works for feminization. Maybe post your results sometime.


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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: mycogirl]
    #5408472 - 03/16/06 01:35 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Ok, little revision needed here, 1 plant i wasn't sure about is male, but still high rate of females, and i was told to expect around 80% females. I have 15 out of 16. This would still be good as an average. Also some feminising techneques produce heamaphrodite plants and/or cuttings from those plants. So this method would be all the more viable if it produces less haemaphrodies.
The experiment continues...
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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: DrJ]
    #5408923 - 03/16/06 03:27 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

hes got to be an OG'er, cause Dr. Jay was a big part of OG, and he recently died of cancer or some other related illness. This sounds like someone trying to walk in his footsteps, ha.


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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: CptnGarden]
    #5409328 - 03/16/06 05:04 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

No never been an OOger. I walk in my own footsteps and everyone i know has called me Dr jay or Mr Jay for ages.


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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: DrJ]
    #5409567 - 03/16/06 05:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

hu thats good to know Dr J.

It realy bugged me seeing somone posting with that name, because of what Doomie meantioned.
But seeing as you just happen to be another Dr Jay. Thats preaty cool. OGs Dr Jay is a good man, who did some good things for the comunity.

I personaly dont like you method, and untill you use it for awhile and have good results for along time then id trust it.. Untill then I get 50%+ females and close to 100% germination by simply setting seeds in pasturized soil in a humidity dome.


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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: Legoulash]
    #5409596 - 03/16/06 06:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

also there is the factor that you can be lucky getting females. i have had seeds where i have had 10 out of 10 females even tho the seeds was not femininzed, my last white widow round was like that. i want to see LOTS of evidence from more than just one person to belive that this is possible. i am extremly sceptical to this method for getting females.


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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: shriek]
    #5409670 - 03/16/06 06:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

As I said, try it if you like, and I'll certainly post my results here. A few other people have agreed to try controlled experiments with this and I'm sure they'll post too.
I don't claim to be omnipotent, but i have a fair bit of experience and I'm more than happy to share what i know.
At the same time, there's always something new to learn.
A good scientist doesn't set out to prove what he suspects is true, he sets out to find the facts.
By no means is this method proven, but preliminary reports and test are positive.

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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: DrJ]
    #5411899 - 03/17/06 09:06 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Note: A 12hour soak may be more effective, if you try this, let me know how it goes.


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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: shriek]
    #5415109 - 03/18/06 03:12 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Hmmmmm.....the only way to learn is to try I guess but all I do know is Sensi Seeds, Dutch Master, Soma, Serious Seeds all say to never soak in bleach. After 20 years at this I know this much over time

a higher nitrogen concentration will give more females.
a higher potassium concentration will give more males.
a higher humidity will give more females.
a lower temperature will give more females.
more blue light will give more females.
Fewer hours of light will give more females. It is important to start these changes at the three-pairs-of-leaves stage and continue for two or three weeks, before reverting to standard conditions.

That advise came from Dutch Passion the leaders of feminized seeds. I've seen it tested many many times and it works pretty well but nothing is fool proof.
Feminised seeds are, by definition, NOT 100% female.
This is because they are created using at least one hermaphrodite parent plant. A hermaphrodite is a plant with both male and female reproductive parts, almost always starting out as a female and, later, growing male parts. Therefore, any seed resulting from the union of a female and a hermaphrodite must inherit the hermaphrodite tendency.
In practice, this means that while most or all plants grown from feminised seeds may appear female once flowering has been induced, they may, at any point in their lives, produce male flowers. If this happens near the end of a harvest, it can ruin an entire crop. With natural seeds, you only have to remove the males at the beginning of the flowering period. With feminised seeds you may have to keep watch for the entire flowering cycle.
Furthermore, since stress is one of the main factors responsible for triggering hermaphrodism, feminised seeds do not make ideal mother-plants. Every time you cut potential clones from a feminised mother, you run the risk of it turning hermaphrodite.

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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: Magash]
    #5415123 - 03/18/06 03:21 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

All good man. One last thing to add on this note, plants with at least 6" of space for their tap root are also more likley to be female.


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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: DrJ]
    #5415126 - 03/18/06 03:23 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Btw... What vairety is that? Looks like a white strain, but maybe some calafornia orange genes in there too?


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