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DrJ
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If you grow weed you MUST read this!!!
#5404167 - 03/15/06 03:41 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have at least 4 too many females to fit in my grow room! This is due to a new germination technique that was passed on to me by a friend. (previous germination rate under same conditions were 80% germination and 30-40% females) -
* First make a 2Ltr solution of water with 1 capful of bleach(5ml) (ordinary household bleach, mine is fragranced. Still works a treat though!) * Then soak seeds in solution for 4-6 hours. * Then rinse and soak in fresh water for 5 mins. * Then add to pot full of medium (i use coco but any well aerated mix works well), and cover seeds with another 1/2" of medium. * Water with light nutrient mix. * Cover with cling-film and poke a few small holes for air. - Thats it! With this method i got 90% germination and 100% females (out of 16 seeds!)
This is only my first time using this method, but chance's of this being fluke are minimal. The friend who told me this you can easily get at least 80% females and 100% germination. I should apologize at this stage to all the manufactures of seed feminizinfg hormones! But this info is to good not to share! 
Dr J (no copyright of course! Pass it on!) lol
P.S. - Please post results and exact method used here for comparison. Thx
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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: DrJ]
#5404207 - 03/15/06 03:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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You definitely need some measure of control here.
Perhaps you just got a nice batch of seeds which, astounding but possible, just happened to be all female.
Other than that... I can't see you having done anything special other than sterilize the outer seed coating.
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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: Herbus]
#5404231 - 03/15/06 03:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I was as sceptical as you dude. But these were the results. Friend concerned owns a grow shop so his info shouldn't be taken lightly. Pots were in far corner of grow room under 24 hr lighting until germintion and two weeks after cycle change to 18hrs. Day temp 24-27c, night temp 15-18c. Seeds were Hashberry (ten seeds(7germinated) fropm mandela deeds, holland. And BB x NL (6 seeds 100% germ.) From nirvana seeds, holland. Neither was a feminised variety. I don't know why it works either. But results speak for themselves. Surely this is worth investigating?
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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: DrJ]
#5404243 - 03/15/06 03:58 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Definitely worth investigation.
If you can get a seed stock of say, 10 seeds, all the same strain...
You could try this method on 5, and then 5 with another method, such as soaking in water...
Then we'd have some control, regardless I'll test your little technique.
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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: Herbus]
#5404263 - 03/15/06 04:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Now you mention it I used other half of BB x NL last time (6 seeds, same conditions) - 3 germinated 1 female. Admittedley this could still be fluke, but is promising none the less.
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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: Herbus]
#5404269 - 03/15/06 04:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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cannabis is so viable i really dont see any need for any other methods than just putting the seeds /if the seeds holds good quality and not bag seeds , unmature seeds and so on) directly in soil and moist it, i have grown cannabis for years and its extremly rare that seeds havent germinated. i will say a 98% germ rate (2 out of 100 seeds wont germinate)
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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: shriek]
#5404284 - 03/15/06 04:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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True, but growing indoors, in limited space means i can't afford to take 20 plants to flowering and only then find that only 6 are female.
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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: Herbus]
#5404285 - 03/15/06 04:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Where you ever an OGer?
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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: NumberThree]
#5404329 - 03/15/06 04:16 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Not sure what you mean so couldn't say!
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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: DrJ]
#5404338 - 03/15/06 04:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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OGer = prev. member of overgrow website
or original gangster
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DrJ
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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: DrJ]
#5404382 - 03/15/06 04:26 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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By the way, these Hashberry seeds i've got are new on the market (hashplant x blueberry). They have been flowering 1.5 weeks now and i'm thinking of posting flower pics every week or so for people who are interested in this breed. They should be ripe in week 8 (12 hours light). (Indoor growers - you can lengthen flowering time by changing to 13 hrs light (takes 10% longer but larger yeild too!) or shorten l0-11 hours for opposite effects. Smoke weed, love life.
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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: shriek]
#5404422 - 03/15/06 04:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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sounds like a typical oger to me 
DrJ what do you mean you can't efford it? isn't that why people clone? you don't need to do it more then one time for each strain! unless you're looking for a specific fenotip inside a certine strain... but usualy you'd do just fine with just one seed run (and unless you're really unlucky 4 plants should be enough) and if you want some more choice you can always plant some more seeds later while already having enough clones for whatever you need!
noobs are always looking for that magic tek... germination is pretty straight farward... good soil, warm temps, some water and patiance. yeah you can sterelize the seed befor or prehydrate it... but its not 100% neccery (you can also sterelize the soil if you're that concerned)
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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: Simisu]
#5404447 - 03/15/06 04:41 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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og was my second home together with this webpage damn canoodian horsepolice
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Herbus
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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: DrJ]
#5404478 - 03/15/06 04:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm very interested in obtaining some genetic stock of Hashplant, or 'Hashberry' seeds or other propagative material.
I'd like to work with 'Hashplant' genetics and several other strains to develop something worthy of being called MHP or "Mendocino Hash Phytoid/Plant."
SWIM, this hippy I know, could supply you with mycelial cultures, salvia cuttings... etc.
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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: Simisu]
#5404523 - 03/15/06 04:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I am still looking for my perfect mother plant. I have kept 1x Big bud x northern lights and 1 x Top-44. Both are ok but neither are perfect, so just regenerating them No clones yet, i need the space. (only have 2.7m2) As for the ooger thing i assume that thats the website that closed recently. I wasn't memember this is my first drug forum, as i was previously squating in an old army base in southern holland, for 2 years. We had shit loads of hydro weed but no internet. Glad to be here though. Nice to be able to chat to people of like mind.
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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: DrJ]
#5404723 - 03/15/06 05:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I will probably try this just out of curiosity, and lack of anything else to do, however, you must be aware that if ever a thing like this had been suggested at OG, there would have been an immediate down pour of disapproving scientifical facts...
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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: NumberThree]
#5404782 - 03/15/06 05:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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The only reason i tried this in the first place was because i respect the guy who told me. But so far so good. The ammonia in the bleach may effect the hormone's in the seed,during prolonged soaking, possibly. Who knows? Worth a try as it certainly doesn't have adverse effect.
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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: DrJ]
#5404850 - 03/15/06 06:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
DrJ said: I have at least 4 too many females to fit in my grow room!
so what you gonna do with them?
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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: DrJ]
#5404895 - 03/15/06 06:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I hate to break it to you, but if there was amonia in your bleach, you should not be alive.
And I hate to be disagreeable, but as others have pointed out, all you are doing is sterilizing the seed coat, this removed bacteria and fungal spores. Maybe you should set up a controled experement. Maybe do some research.
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Re: If you grow weed you MUST read this!!! [Re: DrJ]
#5404937 - 03/15/06 06:16 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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There are a number of other ways to create feminized seed. These include using chemicals such as aspirin and hormones such as gibberellic acid. However, it is easier to breed females to females using chemically-induced or stress-induced male flowers that produce pollen on female plants (forced hermaphrodites).
http://cannabisculture.com/articles/3381.html
Here's wat I found with some basic googling
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