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Liz
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Change of Scenery
#5403641 - 03/15/06 02:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've been in the mortgage business for 5 years, and I love what I do. I just started a new job last week - many of you may have read about my new boss getting arrested my 3rd day on the job. Things here are extremely stressful, but not stressful in the busy-doing-a-million-things-at-once way that I'm used to. Stressful like, my boss is constantly screaming at me, and everyone else, he's constantly up my ass about every little thing, and he's constantly interrupting me while I'm trying to get work done. He's making my days miserable. I come home frazzled, and in a lousy mood because I've had to deal with his shit all day. I know how to do my job, and he knows that. He's just a wicked control freak, so instead of just LETTING me do my job, and backing off so I can do it effectively, he needs to stand over me and make inane suggestions that make no sense about the way things should be done. He's not very good at what he does, nor is he very knowledgeable about the industry. He thinks that yelling at people is going to magically make them close your loan, and it just doesn't work that way. Since I started here, he's embarrassed me in front of my colleagues, he's made me feel like an idiot, and he's tried to walk all over me by yelling in my face. This past Friday he was in my office screaming at ME about something that HE had fucked up. He told a borrower (who is in the middle of foreclosure proceedings) that he "was closing on his loan tomorrow, and would have his money soon". That was a total lie, since the borrower's application was declined everywhere we tried to send it. Also, he told the borrower not to bother paying his mortgage for this month, OR LAST, because "we would be closing him in plenty of time, so it wasn't necessary". You should NEVER, EVER tell a person not to pay their bills. So my boss was out at an appointment and the guy shows up here wanting to know "what time his closing is". My boss hadn't told me what he told the guy, and even if he had, I wouldn't have covered for his lie. I told the guy the truth, and understandably, he was furious. So my boss finds out that I told the guy the real story, and freaks out on ME for not lying to a customer.
Working here under him is really making me hate the mortgage business in general, even though it shouldn't. I decided recently that if things don't drastically improve around here in the next few days/weeks, I'm going to wait until I get my 1st paycheck and then give my notice. I can't work in an environment like this, regardless of how good the money is. I'd rather come home happy with a smaller paycheck than coming home miserable everyday, but earning a ton of cash. My boyfriend is trying his best to take my mind off of work when I get home, and I'm trying my best to leave it at the office, whatever it is that particular day that he did to piss me off, but it's hard, and I feel awful that he has had to deal with me ranting and raving when I come home after not seeing him all day. And all I want to do is go to sleep, because I"m exhausted from dealing with garbage all day.
I applied to a bunch of jobs last night, some in the mortgage industry, most not. I saw some nanny jobs that looked really interesting, I love kids, and even though the money probably wouldn't be close to as good, I'd be happy.
I wish more company owners had some decent morals and cared about the people that work hard under them. I'm a fuck of a lot more productive when I'm happy, and clearly right now I'm not. Anyone have any suggestions? I've tried talking to him, yelling back at him, reasoning with him...he yeses me to death and then doesn't change one bit. My assistant even spoke to him last night after I left, telling him that if he kept treating me the way he was that she thought i was going to quit. So he's settled down a bit today, but who knows how long that will last.
/end rant
-------------------- Remember, remember the fifth of November The gunpowder treason and plot. I see no reason why gunpowder treason Should ever be forgot.
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goobler
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Re: Change of Scenery [Re: Liz]
#5403655 - 03/15/06 02:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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sorry to hear that
bosses should realize that you make their paycheck
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Cowgold
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Re: Change of Scenery [Re: Liz]
#5403679 - 03/15/06 02:11 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Micromanagers suck. I'd respectfuly put in my notice and calmly state why. After finding a new job, ofcourse.
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eligal
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Re: Change of Scenery [Re: Liz]
#5403694 - 03/15/06 02:13 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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challenge him to a bout in a boxing ring. old queens mary rules.
-------------------- \m/ Spanksta \m/ "do you have the freedom to do with your nervous system what you want?" "MolokoMilkPlus said: I'll respect you if you let me give you a blow job" "tactik said: respect the can."
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Re: Change of Scenery [Re: Liz]
#5403695 - 03/15/06 02:13 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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You're definitely right about one thing: The mortgage business sucks.
Maybe a change in your path is just what you need right now?
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Liz
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Re: Change of Scenery [Re: goobler]
#5403718 - 03/15/06 02:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I wish more bosses were like you seem to be in terms of ethics. He lies to lenders, which is like, the worst possible thing to do in this business. Our company is already blacklisted at a ton of places, they wont even do business with us anymore because of shit he has tried to pull. Right now there are 3 loans here for 1 borrower, 3 different houses of theirs, and they my boss is trying to do all of them as owner occupied, to get the borrowers the best rate possible on ALL of their loans. That's fraud, blatent fraud. And he just doesn't care, at all.
-------------------- Remember, remember the fifth of November The gunpowder treason and plot. I see no reason why gunpowder treason Should ever be forgot.
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Burke Dennings
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Re: Change of Scenery [Re: Liz]
#5403724 - 03/15/06 02:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Since when is the Shroomery a lame-ass business ethics site?
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OneMoreRobot3021


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Re: Change of Scenery [Re: Liz]
#5403736 - 03/15/06 02:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Get out while you still can.
-------------------- Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake. -Erik Davis
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adrug

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*no need to flame to say what you wanna..
Edited by OneMoreRobot3021 (03/15/06 02:24 PM)
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TheDude
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Well I for one was just thinking this place could use a little more business ethics discussion.
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eligal
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Re: Change of Scenery [Re: TheDude]
#5403775 - 03/15/06 02:30 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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-------------------- \m/ Spanksta \m/ "do you have the freedom to do with your nervous system what you want?" "MolokoMilkPlus said: I'll respect you if you let me give you a blow job" "tactik said: respect the can."
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Liz
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Quote:
PLUR, LOL said: Since when is the Shroomery a lame-ass business ethics site?
Could you not derail my thread with your immature antics please?
Thanks!
-------------------- Remember, remember the fifth of November The gunpowder treason and plot. I see no reason why gunpowder treason Should ever be forgot.
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Burke Dennings
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Re: Change of Scenery [Re: adrug]
#5403781 - 03/15/06 02:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Relax, adrug. I'm just trying to show Liz how ridiculous it sounds when you try to dictate what is and isn't "Shroomery appropriate".
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Liz said: when did the shroomery turn in to a lame ass hook up site?
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Burke Dennings
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Re: Change of Scenery [Re: Liz]
#5403786 - 03/15/06 02:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, it is pretty immature when someone does that to a thread. I'm glad you can admit that now.
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Liz
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I wasn't trying to "dictate" anything. I was asking a serious question. If I think a thread is lame, I'm going to say so. Sorry if you don't like that, but that's the way I am
-------------------- Remember, remember the fifth of November The gunpowder treason and plot. I see no reason why gunpowder treason Should ever be forgot.
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goobler
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Re: Change of Scenery [Re: Liz]
#5403788 - 03/15/06 02:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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you need to get out of there before you get arrested
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OneMoreRobot3021


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Re: Change of Scenery [Re: Liz]
#5403793 - 03/15/06 02:33 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sounds like a dry soulsucking business.
-------------------- Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake. -Erik Davis
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Liz
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Quote:
PLUR, LOL said: Yeah, it is pretty immature when someone does that to a thread. I'm glad you can admit that now.
When a threads topic is "Fuck me, I'm high", I don't think it's in any danger of becoming any more immature than it started off as.
-------------------- Remember, remember the fifth of November The gunpowder treason and plot. I see no reason why gunpowder treason Should ever be forgot.
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Liz
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Re: Change of Scenery [Re: goobler]
#5403802 - 03/15/06 02:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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goobler, the thought of me being held responsible for whatever he decides to do that is illegal has certainly crossed my mind. But, I have refused to process any loans that are fraudulent, and the other thing in my favor is that I just started, so I don't even know the story behind half of these borrowers - I can't exactly be held accountable for the mess I walked in on.
And Robot, I agree, it sucks up all of my energy
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Disco Cat
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Re: Change of Scenery [Re: Liz]
#5403953 - 03/15/06 03:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think you should tell your boss it was his lying that messed things up. You should also tell him that you're going to do your job properly and that his controlling attitude is interfering with that. What's the worst that can happen if you're already thinking of giving your notice? Can't you report bad business practices somewhere?
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