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Trippinballz
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This seemed interesting to me. Can it really work?
#5402857 - 03/15/06 10:47 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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My friend has a ranch and he got some cow dung placed it in a small plastic container. he then poured warm water around and on the dung and sprinkled pieced of a cube on it and also injected spores. he then placed the container in a bigger container with a top. he said within a few weeks he had a flush. anyone have comments?
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Mitchnast
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Re: This seemed interesting to me. Can it really work? [Re: Trippinballz]
#5402910 - 03/15/06 11:04 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I once put some dung in the bowl of water, dropped in a "tissue culture", shot some piss on it, and fired off some spore. within a few SECONDS I had a flush.
your friends mushrooms MIGHT have grown from the spores, or the tissue, but then, the dung could have already been inoculated inside the cow.
Or he could be making it up. it is certainly a NON-reliable way to try and cultivate.
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xmush
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Re: This seemed interesting to me. Can it really work? [Re: Mitchnast]
#5403159 - 03/15/06 12:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Funny mitch. But people have had some success with the cow patty technique. Check out Yessups recent thread and pics.
xmush
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Mitchnast
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Re: This seemed interesting to me. Can it really work? [Re: xmush]
#5403251 - 03/15/06 12:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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still, not a reliable meathod. and still, unprovable that the addition of spore and tissue made a difference if the substrate was not sterile. considering they come from an area where the poo grows shrooms ANYWAY.......
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xmush
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Re: This seemed interesting to me. Can it really work? [Re: Mitchnast]
#5403431 - 03/15/06 01:14 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Good points. Yessups patties were already completely colonized. I thought that this dude was from SoCal, must have gotten confused with another poster.
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Trippinballz
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Re: This seemed interesting to me. Can it really work? [Re: xmush]
#5403754 - 03/15/06 02:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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my friend today wanted to try something else so he got a cow terd, spores, and brown rice flour and mixed them up. i don't think anything will happen but he keeps saying watch and learn. anyone have any comments.
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xmush
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Re: This seemed interesting to me. Can it really work? [Re: Trippinballz]
#5403804 - 03/15/06 02:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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if you've got spores, just follow one of the teks on the site. You'll have much better success. Patties seem to work only when they are already inoculated with mycelium.
xmush
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Mitchnast
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Re: This seemed interesting to me. Can it really work? [Re: xmush]
#5403895 - 03/15/06 02:52 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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brown rice flour has a high contam rate when left open like that.
if the paddy isnt already colonized with mycelium, the CRAZY AMMOUNTS of bacteria will decompose and ferment the flour before the spores can even germinate.
what does this mean? well i will tell you.
it means that if the dung doesnt have viable myc in it already it will definately not grow.
if it does have it, chances are the ferment will cause the myc to retard slightly and make for smaller mushrooms and less of them.
if he grows mushrooms, and youre "watching and learning" all you are learning is pseudoscience.
like if he said "watch and learn" and flicked a switch, AND THE LIGHTS TURN ON!!! and he says "MAAAAAGIC!"
your friend has no idea how to grow mushrooms, all he is doing is transplanting existing colonies of it and taking credit for it. which is fine, nothing wrong with transplanting it. it works, but then why wouldn't it? mushrooms grow there anyway. they are going to come up no matter what you do.
but let me put it this way.
can he take poo from a feild in canada and do his technique successfully?
If he can do that, THEN you should be impressed. I would be.
just so you kow tho, its pretty gross working with unpasturized, uncomposted poo when you can work with grain and straw.
hes just playing with poop is all.
playing with poop.
to impress you it would seem.
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