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Offlinewwonka
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Dangers of LSD -ghostly sounds and stuff-
    #5402820 - 03/15/06 10:30 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I want to try LSD, plain and simple. My gf had a bad trip on shrooms and doenst want me to try lsd becuase i loved shrooms so much. one of her worries (of thousands i'm sure) is that it will come back in a flashback and bite me in the kiester later.

This flashback worry stems -mostly- from a friend of a friend who "took thousands of hits of acid between the ages of 14-18". Now everytime he cracks his back he trips.

Personally I think this is untrue for several reasons. But I bow to you experts:

What is the liklihood of a small time doser of recieving flashbacks?

What is going on with this x,000 dose kid?
(ps, he also supposedly has done a billion other drugs so it isnt necessarily attributed to acid)

Does acid stay in crystalline form in your spine or any other part of your body?
(I know it doesnt but I'd rather have you guys explain it then me, becuae she thinks im propogandizing)

With proper care and babysitting will physical harm come to a doser beyond a sore back (barring running into a street of traffic)?

Thank you all in advance for taking time to answer these questions


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Re: Dangers of LSD -ghostly sounds and stuff- [Re: wwonka]
    #5402827 - 03/15/06 10:32 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I often pray for flashbacks


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Re: Dangers of LSD -ghostly sounds and stuff- [Re: wwonka]
    #5402834 - 03/15/06 10:34 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Oh my god, just eat the damn dose and stop being so dramatic about it. LSD >>>>>>>>>>>> shrooms.


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Re: Dangers of LSD -ghostly sounds and stuff- [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5402845 - 03/15/06 10:42 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

TV and government makes flashbacks look as if its a bad thing. a flashback isnt going to overwhelm you with nightmares and ghostly figures. its not going to stop you from whatever you are doing and put you in a bad trance like state. you should care more about the many trips you will have to take to get a flashback... if you have nothing but good trips, how is a flashback going to be bad?


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Re: Dangers of LSD -ghostly sounds and stuff- [Re: wwonka]
    #5402846 - 03/15/06 10:42 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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wwonka said:
What is the liklihood of a small time doser of recieving flashbacks?



Slim, but who knows. Maybe it will rev up some underlying mental problem, and make you slap-ass silly.

Quote:

wwonka said:
What is going on with this x,000 dose kid?
(ps, he also supposedly has done a billion other drugs so it isnt necessarily attributed to acid)



Lie.

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wwonka said:
Does acid stay in crystalline form in your spine or any other part of your body?
(I know it doesnt but I'd rather have you guys explain it then me, becuae she thinks im propogandizing)



No.

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wwonka said:
With proper care and babysitting will physical harm come to a doser beyond a sore back (barring running into a street of traffic)?



It's possible to be tensed up for several hours, and that could cause some soreness or strain.


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Re: Dangers of LSD -ghostly sounds and stuff- [Re: wwonka]
    #5402847 - 03/15/06 10:43 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

read up on LSD here: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd.shtml

you'll see that your "friend" is simply propagating bullshit urban myths.


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Re: Dangers of LSD -ghostly sounds and stuff- [Re: Vvellum]
    #5402852 - 03/15/06 10:46 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Thank you all, I'll show her this promptly...

I thought that kid was lying from the second he got in the car....but whatever..i let him play his game.

again, thanks everyone.


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Re: Dangers of LSD -ghostly sounds and stuff- [Re: wwonka]
    #5402856 - 03/15/06 10:46 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

It's an urban legend (the spine myth).

Here's the info you need (link to the myth):
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_myth1.shtml


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Re: Dangers of LSD -ghostly sounds and stuff- [Re: wwonka]
    #5402888 - 03/15/06 11:00 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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wwonka said:

This flashback worry stems -mostly- from a friend of a friend who "took thousands of hits of acid between the ages of 14-18". Now everytime he cracks his back he trips.






HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!

seriously

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

take it and have a good time

crack his back.... EL OH EL!


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Re: Dangers of LSD -ghostly sounds and stuff- [Re: goobler]
    #5402891 - 03/15/06 11:01 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

:lol:

I crack my back compulsively, and I've done a bunch of LSD...I've never, ever had this "flashback" everyone talks about.

Sometimes, I'll be in a place where I tripped, and I'll smoke, and get reminiscent feelings of that trip...but that's as close as it comes.


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Re: Dangers of LSD -ghostly sounds and stuff- [Re: TM]
    #5402894 - 03/15/06 11:01 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Oh my god, just eat the damn dose and stop being so dramatic about it.




Good words...everyone should take this advice


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Re: Dangers of LSD -ghostly sounds and stuff- [Re: wwonka]
    #5402908 - 03/15/06 11:04 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I had a freind back in school who did that, hed get mild hulc. when he popped his back. the thing about him and 3 or 4 other people I know who did alot of it, is their back is cripled up from doing so much. theyve got alot of back porblems. go ahead and do it, just dont do it every day or anything. :smirk:


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Re: Dangers of LSD -ghostly sounds and stuff- [Re: inoculatedGreif]
    #5402916 - 03/15/06 11:06 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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I had a freind back in school who did that, hed get mild hulc. when he popped his back. the thing about him and 3 or 4 other people I know who did alot of it, is their back is cripled up from doing so much. theyve got alot of back porblems. go ahead and do it, just dont do it every day or anything. :smirk:




So then Albert Hoffman, the Grateful Dead, Timothy Leary, Ken Kesey, and  other people that have eaten tons of LSD and NOT gotten crippled....they're just exceptions to the rule?

:rolleyes:

Eating a bunch of cid isn't gonna make you a cripple.


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Re: Dangers of LSD -ghostly sounds and stuff- [Re: inoculatedGreif]
    #5402922 - 03/15/06 11:08 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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the thing about him and 3 or 4 other people I know who did alot of it, is their back is cripled up from doing so much. theyve got alot of back porblems.



If you're not joking, you're lost in life. How can you equate their acid use to back problems?


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Re: Dangers of LSD -ghostly sounds and stuff- [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5402927 - 03/15/06 11:09 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I should be bedridden by that theory


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Re: Dangers of LSD -ghostly sounds and stuff- [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5402937 - 03/15/06 11:11 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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:lol:
Sometimes, I'll be in a place where I tripped, and I'll smoke, and get reminiscent feelings of that trip...but that's as close as it comes.




That's pretty much a flashback...albeit a minor one.

Like say for instance, there is an object that you've only experienced while under the influence of LSD. Say that you've only eaten cherry cotton candy on a trip. Then maybe months later, you try it again for the first time since the trip and you are sober. Then you have a chance of experiencing a burst of chemicals known as the "flashback". The candy could cause you to experience a flashback of experiencing LSD rather than the actual experience of eating it during the previous trip...except for the normal remembrance.

I imagine that a very small amount of DMT is being released in a flashback.


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Re: Dangers of LSD -ghostly sounds and stuff- [Re: Darkcloud]
    #5403242 - 03/15/06 12:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

" Now everytime he cracks his back he trips."

This is a fictional friend, or a liar. I knew a scumbag that used to pull this stuff. He surely tripped less than 10 times or so, but he did a bunch of other drugs. A couple years later, he convinced a few friends that he was having a flashback because he cracked his back. I knew he was full of shit, but didn't have all the technical knowledge on the subject I do now. If that happened now, I'd fucking terrorize the person all night... absolutely anything to make them miserable with fact.

The most likely cause is a cry for attention. Maybe he doesn't have any hookup these days, so instead of having the neato reputation of "that guy who is always tripping... that's about it." He needs to seek another form of attention.


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Re: Dangers of LSD -ghostly sounds and stuff- [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5403284 - 03/15/06 12:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

A flashback is merely a free ride...it's nothing to be afraid of if you've never had a hellish experience.


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Re: Dangers of LSD -ghostly sounds and stuff- [Re: Kaleidoscope]
    #5403304 - 03/15/06 12:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

lol I've so much of my share of hell I think I own a timeshare


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Re: Dangers of LSD -ghostly sounds and stuff- [Re: goobler]
    #5403653 - 03/15/06 02:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

any memory, whether tripping or completely sober, can reoccur


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