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makaveli8x8
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nutrients which ones?
#5402060 - 03/15/06 02:47 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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im very tired from the hunt, and after answering all them questions i have a question now.
Mushrooms need nutrients and im sure vitimins and minerals blah blah....my question is which ones do they really need? which ones seem to affect them the most in positive and neg ways. basicly which are the main ones.
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Re: nutrients which ones? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#5402070 - 03/15/06 02:54 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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carbon-nitrogen
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cappa
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Re: nutrients which ones? [Re: agar]
#5402904 - 03/15/06 11:03 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Really? I wouldn't have expected the carbon. Gonna have to find some willow bark or something to burn.
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Re: nutrients which ones? [Re: cappa]
#5402936 - 03/15/06 11:11 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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dont bother with the carbon, thats not needed. Sources high in N tend to produce better. Your best bet is to use horse shit or compost as a substrate.
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Re: nutrients which ones? [Re: coda]
#5402964 - 03/15/06 11:16 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Too late for that! Maybe next time. :-) I'm running a custom mixture. Will comment on it after the grow. I've always guessed that a well engineered custom mushroom compost would be far superior to anything else. I'm in the market for some.
But right now I'm trying to do it 'synthetically'. We shall see.
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Re: nutrients which ones? [Re: cappa]
#5404227 - 03/15/06 03:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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cappa said: ... I'm running a custom mixture. Will comment on it after the grow. ...
Come on, Cappa. I'll show ya someone else's if you show us yours. It's the only one I've found so far. (And it's for a liquid culture, but the composition should relate somewhat to compost.) 00Zen's formula from a 2002 post here at the shroomery-
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1. Glucose (C6H12O6) [80 g] CAS: [50-99-7] 2. Ammonium Succinate (C4H12N2O4) [8 g] CAS: [2226-88-2] 3. Yeast Extract (Organic Extract) [4 g] CAS: [8013-01-2] 4. Magnesium Sulfate (MgSO4-7H2O) [4 g] CAS: [7487-88-9] 5. Glycine (C2H5NO2) [3 g] CAS: [CAS 56-40-6] 6. Potassium Phosphate (KH2PO4) [800 mg] CAS: [7778-77-0] 7. Thiamine Hydrochloride (C12H17ClN4OS HCl) [24 mg] CAS: [67-03-8] 8. Ferrous Sulfate, Heptahydrate (FeSO4-7H2O) [20 mg] CAS: [7720-78-7] 9. Cupric Sulfate, 5-Hydrate (CuSO4-5H2O) [4 mg] CAS: [7758-98-7] 10. Manganese Chloride, 4-Hydrate (MnCl2-4H2O) [2.8 mg] CAS: [7773-01-5] 11. Zinc Sulfate, Heptahydrate (ZnSO4-7H2O) [2.4 mg] CAS: [7733-02-0] 12. Ammonium Molybdate, 4-Hydrate ((NH4)6Mo7O24-4H2O) [.4 mg] CAS: [12027-67-7] 13. DiHydrogen Oxide (H2O) [146.4 mg - X] CAS: [7732-18-5] 14. Hydrochloric Acid (HCl) [X mg] adjusted to balance solution pH when properly diluted.
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Re: nutrients which ones? [Re: coda]
#5404343 - 03/15/06 04:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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coda said: dont bother with the carbon, thats not needed. Sources high in N tend to produce better. Your best bet is to use horse shit or compost as a substrate.
carbon / nitrogen ratio <17:1, nitrogen 2.6%, phosphorus 0.2-05%, potassium 1.5-2.5%, calcium 1.5-2.5%, available boron <2 ppm, available ammonium <10 ppm, soluble salts 3.0-5 OdS/m. This is the lad analysis of Myco-Nitro
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Re: nutrients which ones? [Re: mogur]
#5404734 - 03/15/06 05:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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mogur said:
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cappa said: ... I'm running a custom mixture. Will comment on it after the grow. ...
Come on, Cappa. I'll show ya someone else's if you show us yours. It's the only one I've found so far. (And it's for a liquid culture, but the composition should relate somewhat to compost.) 00Zen's formula from a 2002 post here at the shroomery-
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1. Glucose (C6H12O6) [80 g] CAS: [50-99-7] 2. Ammonium Succinate (C4H12N2O4) [8 g] CAS: [2226-88-2] 3. Yeast Extract (Organic Extract) [4 g] CAS: [8013-01-2] 4. Magnesium Sulfate (MgSO4-7H2O) [4 g] CAS: [7487-88-9] 5. Glycine (C2H5NO2) [3 g] CAS: [CAS 56-40-6] 6. Potassium Phosphate (KH2PO4) [800 mg] CAS: [7778-77-0] 7. Thiamine Hydrochloride (C12H17ClN4OS HCl) [24 mg] CAS: [67-03-8] 8. Ferrous Sulfate, Heptahydrate (FeSO4-7H2O) [20 mg] CAS: [7720-78-7] 9. Cupric Sulfate, 5-Hydrate (CuSO4-5H2O) [4 mg] CAS: [7758-98-7] 10. Manganese Chloride, 4-Hydrate (MnCl2-4H2O) [2.8 mg] CAS: [7773-01-5] 11. Zinc Sulfate, Heptahydrate (ZnSO4-7H2O) [2.4 mg] CAS: [7733-02-0] 12. Ammonium Molybdate, 4-Hydrate ((NH4)6Mo7O24-4H2O) [.4 mg] CAS: [12027-67-7] 13. DiHydrogen Oxide (H2O) [146.4 mg - X] CAS: [7732-18-5] 14. Hydrochloric Acid (HCl) [X mg] adjusted to balance solution pH when properly diluted.
Hmm I would've used citric acid myself as an acidifier. But whatever.
As far as my mix, I'm focusing on nitrogen, oxygen, calcium, and potassium. While specfically reducing ammonia and pre-existing C02. Carbon will be found naturally occuring in simple sugars that are present. I'll let the myc take care of the carbon itself.
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Re: nutrients which ones? [Re: cappa]
#5405891 - 03/15/06 09:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sounds good. Ammonia can be a great nitrogen source, are you thinking it may burn the mycelium?
Whoaaaa..... I just noticed this, what the fuck?
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13. DiHydrogen Oxide (H2O) [146.4 mg - X] CAS: [7732-18-5]
Nevermind, just a brain fart, was wondering first why he would bother to call water 'DiHydrogen Oxide' and then specify 146.4 mg in a liquid culture. Now I see the 146.4 mg - X, so maybe he was only trying to be cute. For a second there, I felt my leg getting longer. (No, not that one.... as in 'pulling our leg'.)
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