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Ever get the urge to just go all out ?
    #5401634 - 03/14/06 11:44 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

7 grams mushrooms

4 hits of potent acid

5 buttons of Peyote

5 huge bowls packed with the finest herb

20x Extract salvia





Where would you go?


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Re: Ever get the urge to just go all out ? [Re: adamj]
    #5401725 - 03/15/06 12:10 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I don't know, but I'm sure I wouldn't remember anything.


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Re: Ever get the urge to just go all out ? [Re: adamj]
    #5401748 - 03/15/06 12:15 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

The moon?

Heaven?

Maybe nowhere, Id probably be to fucked to go anywhere. Not sure the mind could handle that much at one time..
God I would just be happy with the acid.
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Re: Ever get the urge to just go all out ? [Re: Annom]
    #5401752 - 03/15/06 12:16 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Ever get the urge to just go all out ? [Re: Helge]
    #5401775 - 03/15/06 12:24 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

You would fear for your life at some point and would probably pass out. I just wonder what order you would do those drugs in, what time frame?

The most "all out" I have ever gone was on ayahuasca by its self(far more intense than 13 hits of acid). The second was 6 grams of shrooms and 3 hits of acid. Both trips were potentially bad for me, but I knew what I was doing.
My guess, is that if someone actually did all those drugs in somewhere around 2 hours time, they would be completely fried for about a year. If not that you would be mentally ill for even longer. If you knew what hallucinogens were all about, you would likely still have a hard time with that. The salvia would really seal the deal. If you added ayahuasca or smoked DMT, the after effects I am talking about would be for sure.

When going "all out" try about a ten strip of acid and a tiny bit of shrooms. No need to get so elaborate. Though mescaline also works very well with LSD, and you could say it does with shrooms also.


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Re: Ever get the urge to just go all out ? [Re: adamj]
    #5401782 - 03/15/06 12:27 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Sounds like the ride of a life, besides the salvia.


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Re: Ever get the urge to just go all out ? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5401797 - 03/15/06 12:32 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

If someone offered that to me for free at the most ideal part of my life I would have probably done it. On one condition, take the salvia out of the scenario. Id probably suggest a lower dose of shrooms too considering the fact that if your blotter acid is "best", at 4 hits your pushing into the 560+ mic range. With the acid that usually would not be the case. Its best to be careful though. If they were geltabs I would expect them to get VERY intense with 4 hits. If they were the best GELS, id just hope most people would come out of it ok after only three.
three gels can easily equal a ten strip of med. quality blotter.


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Re: Ever get the urge to just go all out ? [Re: stemmer]
    #5401833 - 03/15/06 12:47 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

That sounds like something Hunter S. Thompson would have done, but trade the salvia for cocaine or ether or amyl nitrate.


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Re: Ever get the urge to just go all out ? [Re: DrGeek]
    #5401845 - 03/15/06 12:52 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I don't know what tabs ur getting stemmer... 250ug Hofmann Jubilees...
that's nearly 1000ug's.


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Re: Ever get the urge to just go all out ? [Re: indica]
    #5401868 - 03/15/06 01:00 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Really 250 mics. Thats pretty funny.
I have had just about the best acid known to man per tab(in gel form). Either I am wrong about the fact that most of the best blotters only contain about 150 tops, or I have misinterpreted how much of that drug I have actually put into my body. Id say the most intense,(almost irresponsible on the the part of the creators of the tabs), was about 200 tops. And that it was above and beyond any blotter I have ever known. Best blotter I ever had must have been about 150, and Im not sure you know how potent that is(like enough to really freak alot of people out).
I dont care if your trying to say how good your blotter acid is, but dont try to tell anybody that if you have the BEST shit you have 250 mics per hit. That would just be silly.
I cant tell you how many times the 250 # has been spit out at me to try to make me buy blotter acid.
Gel tabs have always been the most potent for various reasons, and they(coming from a responsible "creator") top off at about 200.

Id almost be pissed if I got acid that was that potent per hit. Im not sure you really know "mics" or "ugs". 250 for most people is VERY heavy. I have tripped so many times, and Im sure your 250 blotters aint 250. ANd if they are, thats FAR beyond the average for POTENT blotters.
Ya 250 is a favorite number for those who have no idea what they are talking about, trust me.


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Re: Ever get the urge to just go all out ? [Re: stemmer]
    #5401953 - 03/15/06 01:31 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I would most definitely do it, minus the salvia. I don't need that evil shit mixed in there as it does nothing positive for me, but that is definitely what turned me off. But yeah, shrooms/mesc/weed/acid together, sounds good to me as long as there's no way of hurting myself and no one's around for me to choke out.

Much like the prospect of a thumbprint, I might do it once in an ideal situation.


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Re: Ever get the urge to just go all out ? [Re: supersapien]
    #5402025 - 03/15/06 02:15 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Might I ask what you mean by a thumbprint?


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Re: Ever get the urge to just go all out ? [Re: stemmer]
    #5402031 - 03/15/06 02:20 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Ever get the urge to just go all out ? [Re: supersapien]
    #5402058 - 03/15/06 02:45 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Ive been banned from that forum for ever, though I am still here.
I insulted a few mods all at once. SO what does it mean?
Thanks for the link though, still.......Thumbprint?


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Re: Ever get the urge to just go all out ? [Re: supersapien]
    #5402061 - 03/15/06 02:48 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Basically, if there is a load of crystal LSD available to you, you take your thumb (licking it beforehand may or may not be an option, not sure) and stick it in there, then lick your thumb. You feel it right away when it hits your thumb and then it works within minutes. I guess it's something like the equivalent of a couple sheets of blotter.


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Re: Ever get the urge to just go all out ? [Re: supersapien]
    #5402067 - 03/15/06 02:52 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I can tell you for sure that no one here has had the equivalent of a couple sheets of blotter. Im sorry dude but you have been mislead.
It might be alot of acid but it aint more than a 20 strip of good acid. You feel that in about 5 min.
Anyone who says otherwise is way out of their element.
Its like a really bad wives tale.

To take a couple sheets of good blotter is beyond tripping, its dangerous. Not as much physically as it is mentally.
WHo ever said its equal to even one sheet is damn near retarded.
If you did that you would want one free pass to the hospital.
With the best tabs, blotter, or gels, it takes only about 5 of them(like 15 of the average good blotters), and you wont even see your hand infront of your face.
If you took two sheets, you would trip for more than a year for sure, and would never really come back home.
Who ever mentioned that a thumbprint is more than a sheet is full of shit, partly because no one would ever do that to them selves willingly. Even if it was the weakest REAL acid you ever took.

Just thought I would let you know that thats all bullshit for the most part(as far as the dose goes).


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Re: Ever get the urge to just go all out ? [Re: stemmer]
    #5402127 - 03/15/06 04:25 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

well apparently these hofmann jubilees are 250mics (i know... microgram being one hundredth of a gram.. or so... not sure was never good at chemistry)

I've heard and seen of blotters being more than 250MICS, red hearts dosed at over 300.. APPARENTLY. Take it with a grain of salt.

thicker blotter paper? Idk... not sure, not having a 'my blotters bigger than ur blotter' comp

Hofmann jubilees were made in commemoration of Hofmanns first controlled dose, which was 250 mics

dunno... do some research and prove me wrong
i'm not going to say I had the best blotter known to man though, because I havent even had these hofmanns yet.
will soon though, and I'l llet you know how they were!

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Re: Ever get the urge to just go all out ? [Re: indica]
    #5402130 - 03/15/06 04:29 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

btw stemmer i dont know how potent last blotter was I had, probably no more than 110 (degraded in delivery...?)
most potent blotter I had was DOB.. and I had 2 hits
was fucked for 2 days

im not trying to upstage you
just letting you know what apparently is AVAILABLE


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Re: Ever get the urge to just go all out ? [Re: indica]
    #5402137 - 03/15/06 04:45 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

But DOB makes everone trip for two days. How does that make it more potent?


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Re: Ever get the urge to just go all out ? [Re: abrad84]
    #5402145 - 03/15/06 05:09 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

hey, isnt that what happened to ozzy? have fun! :smile2: :grin:


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Re: Ever get the urge to just go all out ? [Re: zappa]
    #5402170 - 03/15/06 05:43 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Well I said, "I GUESS it's the equivalent," no one told me it was, that was just a wild estimate on my part. I've never managed to find acid around here so I wouldn't know in the first place.

Either way, it's just a shitload of acid.


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Re: Ever get the urge to just go all out ? [Re: supersapien]
    #5402240 - 03/15/06 06:32 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Stemmer, in the thumb-print thread (sucks that your banned, its a very interesting thread). Its what the 'families' used to do to initiate people who were going to start laying acid.

They would need to do a thumbprint before they were 'trusted' enough to lay and distrubute the LSD. It was a way of showing that they could trust you - as it showed you also trusted the LSD kind of thing.

From the sounds of it - the trips lasted a day or two (atleast), and the people who did the trip would need to have people around them to look after them for a few days after the expierence was over - as it left them in such a state.

They also say that you never quite fully come-down from it - ever. I'll re-post a few posts from that thread (I actually have it book marked)

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I got up this morning and as always took a quick look at the boards before heading to campus. Your thread got thinking about the old days as I was driving to campus. So I have decided to skip my first class and try to provide some more info.
BTW if I flunk my pathology exam next week It's your fault Learyfan

Some of this info I covered in my ODD thread LSD-Crystal to blotter.
My information is on how the Dead/rainbow/origanal family handle LSD
When LSD crystal is bought it comes in little glass viles. It's a dense crystal and a gram of it looks alot smaller than a gram of coke or flour(or other powder). Ten grams can fit in a vile small enough to hold in your hand and clentch your fist and conceal.

Anyway as I said in my other thread when you first buy crystal from the family their's 2 requirement's. 1. You have to be taught how to lay it properly and be trusted to do so on your own. 2. You have to do a thumbprint. The family believes LSD crystal should only be handled by those with the proper energy or karma to do so. There's no better way to test somebodys faith of LSD than give them a thumbprint.

Originaly thumprints were given by taking the glass vile and puting your thumb over
the top of the vile and turning it and fliping it upside down real quick. This put a coating of crystal on your thumb which was pessed into the palm of the person ,leaving your crystal imbedded thumbrint in there palm(hence the term thumprint) where it would absorb(or they might lick it off.). This was your certification

Nowadays thumbprints are eaten. Any time someone eats crystal it's refered to as a print. This way was adopted because it's more efficiant.

As for the experiance itself. All reviever's are experianced with LSD(at least they think so until there printed ) You feel it almost instantly. LSD crystal has an energy to it. Having a jar of it my pocket is enough to alter my conciousness. As soon as it touches your skin or goes in your mouth you can feel it. Alot of folks will throw up within minutes. This is an exorcism of sorts. Like all the negative energy being cast out of your body. Then you lay down and learn. As for the experiance I just couldn't do it justice to describe it. Your never the same again.
A thumprint doesn't open the door of perception it blows it off the hinges.
You melt into eternety. You let go and die into the moment which is all. There is no you anymore only all. The intensity of this can't be described, but you realize as your sliping away that it's familar.This is because it become quite clear this is exactlly what happens when you die. After an eternity you slowly start to come back in pieces. You feel reborn and a completely different person. You don't ever come completely down or back. This isn't a bad thing ,but it's very scary at first.
I won't try to describe it any more because I can't. Also after your experianced with eating crystal its a little less tramatic. Your first one is spent on the ground. After awhile I could eat crystal at shows and whatnot.

I have only seen one print go bad and I described this in my other thread. The guy says it's the most important event of his life and now lives happily so I guess it wasn't bad. His reaction at the time was.

I think psychedelics are safer in large doses(i'm not talking about thumbprint sizes though) as far as bad trips go. They override your ego's defenses in large enough doses. you can't think your having a bad trip because you can't think at all beacause there is no you. Terrance McKenna and Andrew Weil MD have said this also.

Alright whiterasta your up





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Thats alright man I was looking for an excuse to skip anyway.

It is hard to describe a thumbprint. Human language cannot describe an experiance that is encompasses all of life. Every cell of every creature or living thing that ever lived or will live is connected by the energy or light. When we die are body and our ego is gone. We become one with eternity or the light or God or whatever name you wish to call it. A thumbprint allows this to happen and rerturn to our physical body. My first print I layed down and quickly realized that this was my actual death. You watch the whole process unfold with complete awareness.
I didn't cling to my body I just realized my life had passed. As I was spiraling up or out I saw my life evolve through the years I lived. The happiness, the sadness,the people I loved and the people I didn't. The joy that I gave and the pain that I caused. I saw the true nature of reality and why things were the way they were. As I got higher I saw the nature of reality on the cosmic scale and saw that the reason for our evolution was to experiance love. To love is to have experianced the finest of life. Then came the moment were it was time to let go. As I did it came for me and I sobbed uncontrolabley for I realized that the light or energy we call god or creation was perfect. It was pure unconditional love.
What else could god have been I realized. That glint of innocent perfection in a baby's eye. The light was pure as the heart of Jesus Christ. I dissolved into it and died. Since there was no me only the all ,I cannot remember the rest because there was no me to remember. After forever I slowly decended into my body.
I spent days awake afterwards talking to myself. I vowed to god to spread LSD so others could see the light. I vowed to look at every person as the lord and treat them as such.
I was reborn and continue to live by the values I learned. I became as active as I could spreading LSD. Year after year in hotel rooms with a pyrex pan and watercolor paper. Hoping excitedly that some of these hit's will help guide my brothers and sisters back towards the light. LSD is a direct message from God. Period. I don't think we get another chance. We can love each other or we can kill each other ,but it is up to us. As I always say in my threads as a reminder, my work with LSD ended years ago.

As for your question about eating and going to the bathroom. I don't think I ate for a week afterwards. As for going to the bathroom I hadn't eaten before hand at my guides advise so it wasn't a problem. I remember letting go as it got dark and coming back a lttle before sunrise. I was high for along time afterwards and as I said earlier you never fully return. I feel high all the time still and its been years.
Also I did many, many prints after that. I have eaten a lot of crystal but it was never like that first time.
I must stress that I was in the company of very evolved and older people that made sure my experiances were optimal. These were kind old spirits that had been were I was going many years before and many times. They held me as a baby every inch of the way.

You have heard of near death experiances right. A thumbprint is a beyond death experiance.
I have a rich life now thats full of good fortune. A wonderful wife and 3 children who are completely wonderful. Every day is complete joy. I couldn't ask for more, but I know it will end one day for good. I await this day with no fear ,but the knowlege that that most rewarding and enlightening experiance of life is death.





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Thumbprints are not weighed out. By todays dosage sizes the amount would be in the hundreds or higher. It's more like how many sheets would a thumbprint be not doses.





There's many more interesting posts in that thread, and its a shame that you cant read it - some really interesting info in there.

But from the sounds of it - a thumprint is something that you never quite fully come back from, and it is a life-changing expierence, and its something that if you chose to do it - you should be aware of its consequences.


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Re: Ever get the urge to just go all out ? [Re: kaniz]
    #5403035 - 03/15/06 11:37 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i kinda get that urge every once in a while...


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