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Amazon Shop: ½ Pint Jars, Brown Rice Flour, Pressure Cooker, Rye Grain, Vermiculite, Wild Bird Seed

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OfflineCheshirePhat
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n00b and his greaseDOG have a Q
    #540007 - 02/04/02 07:21 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

me and my greasedog would like to know if we DEFIANTLY need a pressure cooker.... or if we can just boil the jars.....

we also would like to know if it comes down to us buying one whats the best size? [some may size doesnt matter but...]

okies thank you muchly...... also send all pressure cookers to ME! Pm if youll send me one! HAHAHA :P

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Re: n00b and his greaseDOG have a Q [Re: CheshirePhat]
    #540024 - 02/04/02 07:55 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

It is highly recommended that you have one if you are using whole grains as substrate. If you are only using flour substrates then you do not need a PC. Simple as that!


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Re: n00b and his greaseDOG have a Q [Re: CheshirePhat]
    #540144 - 02/04/02 12:20 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

You can get by without a PC, but it is very very difficult and risky. If you want to see if your non PC setup will work, prepare your substrate, jars or whatever, and do all the steps except don't use real spores. A staightened paperclip can be used to simulate the syringe. Wait a week and look at the results. If you have lots of nasty growth, toss the jars and find yourself a PC. If you were lucky and didn't contaminate, you might get lucky again... then again, you might not. It sucks to put in a month or three of work to lose everything at the end because you didn't get good sterilization at the start.


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Re: n00b and his greaseDOG have a Q [Re: Seuss]
    #543399 - 02/07/02 08:57 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

is there an alternative though?

i mean can we just boil them or does it have t be pressure cooked?

and where can i get a TEk for JUST flour substrates? i havent come across this before.

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Re: n00b and his greaseDOG have a Q [Re: CheshirePhat]
    #543403 - 02/07/02 09:14 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I think he meant flour substrates as opposed to whole grain substrates. The pf tek is a flour tek. the pf tek doesn't contam as easily as whole grain subs(like rye and birdseed) so using regular pan to boil/sterilize for an hour with the lid on will usually work for the pf tek. make up some jars pf tek style and boil for one hour. If you don't see any contams for a week and your substrate still smells fresh, your sterilization worked and you can use it. If not, get a pc.


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Re: n00b and his greaseDOG have a Q [Re: CheshirePhat]
    #543610 - 02/07/02 12:56 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

well, with recent luck my frioend would recommend a PC.....he has put quite a bit of work into sterility and has just birthed 3 cakes of cantam....and he thinks the other will follow suit.....boiled em for an hour....dont know what to tell ya


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Re: n00b and his greaseDOG have a Q [Re: ParticleMan]
    #543922 - 02/07/02 06:01 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

i used to pasteurize on oven top all the time. It will work, just not as certainly as a PC.

a flour only tek? you mean without verm?


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Re: n00b and his greaseDOG have a Q [Re: fresh357]
    #544060 - 02/07/02 08:08 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

no, I meant with verm., but using a rice flour instead of whole rice for instance


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Re: n00b and his greaseDOG have a Q [Re: arkendave]
    #544944 - 02/08/02 04:12 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

yeah..the PF tek calls for brown rice flour.


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