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yourwar
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First Timer Conerns
#5399445 - 03/14/06 02:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hello! I just joined the forums to gain better insite on the world of shrooms. I am interested in doing mushrooms for my first time and I am 100% confident I am ready. My only problem is my girlfriend. She wants to do them to but she dosn't seem as sure as I do, and while I'm doing them to experience life from a different stand point, she only wants to do them to have fun and tack another "drug" under her belt. This worries me.
I want to make sure everything is comfortable and everyone is 100% sure (like I am) that they are ready for it. The only other drugs I have done are marijuana, alcohol, and ecstasy (same as my girlfriend). My girlfriend tends to get very edgey and paranoid when trying new drugs as I experienced when we both tryed ecstasy together for the first time.
There will be one more person with us who has done them 2 times before and he is also 100% confident he is ready for another trip. This being my first however, I want it to be a great experience that will call me back to try again, rather than scare me away for good.
I was curious if it would be a bad choice for me and my buddy to take shrooms while my girlfriend takes ecstasy? I told her that I won't let her do shrooms unless she is 100% positive she wants to and dosn't have any doubts. What is your oppinion on this situation?
Also, I'm not exactly sure how much I should take. I have a very strong system that fights new chemicals and everything I try usually takes a lot to get me "high". For example, the first time I did ecstasy I took 1 pill and got a very light high for about 20 minutes, while my second time taking the same pills but times 3 got me really high for about 3 hours. Same basic rule has worked on me with every chemical I have taken (ie. alcohol, marijuana, perscription drugs).
I want to have a decent trip for my first time and I know I will be less likely to have a bad trip because of how open minded and laid back I am (kinda the "go with the flow" type person). I have $300 and I need to get 2-3 people high on shrooms as stated above. Also, I'm not sure if body size matters as it does for other drugs but I am a bigger guy (about 6'3" and 200 lbs.).
Please help me by answering my questions! I would greatly appreciate any feedback, be it good or bad. Thanks in advance!
-yourwar
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abrad84
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Re: First Timer Conerns [Re: yourwar]
#5399463 - 03/14/06 02:44 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Also, I'm not exactly sure how much I should take. I have a very strong system that fights new chemicals and everything I try usually takes a lot to get me "high". For example, the first time I did ecstasy I took 1 pill and got a very light high for about 20 minutes, while my second time taking the same pills but times 3 got me really high for about 3 hours. Same basic rule has worked on me with every chemical I have taken (ie. alcohol, marijuana, perscription drugs).
I would advise you not to apply this logic to mushrooms, they have a way of surprising you so start low. If your girlfriend wants to try them you should let her. Whats wrong with taking them to have fun?
And please don't think that whenever you try a drug you're going to have to take a lot to get high. This is a dangerous attitude not so much for shrooms (well physically) but some drugs are much less forgiving.
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yourwar
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Re: First Timer Conerns [Re: abrad84]
#5399473 - 03/14/06 02:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nothing I suppose, I am taking them to have fun as well. It just seems that she is psycing herself up and preparing herself to have a bad trip. I think if she puts her mind state in "I'm going to have a bad trip but how will I deal with it" then she will indeed have a bad trip. She read a bunch of bad trip stories on this site last night and is slightly paranoid now.
Personally I took the stories as a learning experience on what to avoid and what to expect.
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Re: First Timer Conerns [Re: yourwar]
#5399481 - 03/14/06 02:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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A great rule for shrooms is start small... Even if you think you have a high tolerance to drugs in general. For your first time you want to start small. Id suggest no more than an 1/8th. Shrooms are in no way comparable to any of the drugs you have tried, and even reading a lot of information still can't get you 100% ready for what they will do.
If your girlfriend gets paranoid, that is a very bad combo with a large dose of shrooms. She should start even smaller, at 1/16th. You would most likely want her to not take ecstacy but have her take a small dose of shrooms as well, that way she will be on the same wavelength as you and your other buddy when you are tripping harder than her.
Oh... and 300$ should be enough for almost 1.5 oz shrooms so you definitley have enough for three peeps, and some left over for next time!
Have fun!
Edited by Druginduced (03/14/06 02:52 PM)
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abrad84
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Re: First Timer Conerns [Re: yourwar]
#5399483 - 03/14/06 02:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Keeping to a sensible dose will more than likely eliminate the chances of having a bad trip. Lots of people have difficult experiences but full on bad trips are not that common.
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Id suggest no more than an 1/8th.
I would definetely suggest less than that for your first time, an eight can get quite intense IME.
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kaniz
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Re: First Timer Conerns [Re: abrad84]
#5399486 - 03/14/06 02:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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The first time I did mushrooms was just for fun and another drug to try. Same with the 2nd time I did mushrooms and the 3rd time
and then I think it was the 4th time - they knocked me on my ass and scared the shit out of me :P Still had a great trip and I was able to pull it around - but that trip also showed me the greater potential of mushrooms.
I'd be willing to venture a guess, that there are ALOT of people who first tried LSD and Mushrooms "just as another drug to try". Some just leave it as a 'fucked up good time' - and don?t look to take anything away from the experience, and others realize their potential and explore it.
IMO - there is nothing wrong with the recreational use of drugs and psychedelics, it is the irresponsible use that is a problem.
There is the popular opnion on this forum that 'using them JUST for fun' is a bad thing - I dont hold that opnion myself. Aslong as you are safe and responsbile in the use - I dont see whats wrong with having a bit of 'fun' with them. However, you also need to realize that these substances can take you in MANY directions that you may not have that much control over - and can end up not being much fun.
Point your GF at erowid and get her to do some reading on her own just so she can get herself educated a bit more and see if this is something she'd really like to try.
As for how much to take - especially when doing new substances, I always vote for - start low, then re-dose as time goes on to increase it to a level that you are comfortable with.
And, as for your GF being on E when you are on mushrooms. In my expierence : if I am on /just/ mushrooms and no other substance (ie: not hippyflipping), people on E, or other 'upppers' tend to /really/ annoy me when I'm tripping. Something about them just freaks me out and I cant look at them.
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Re: First Timer Conerns [Re: kaniz]
#5399568 - 03/14/06 03:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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One thing about the dose, I'd suggest that as long as you're content in the current situation then don;t take more until the 2-3 hour point... I know this seems like a long wait, but I've had doses between 0.75g's and up to 6g's that have left me hanging there then hit me like a brick and went from current state to full blown peak in only a matter of seconds. So if you find that the trip is very mild just force yourself to wait it out... Considering how mild those 6g's felt I wouldn't want to know what would have happened had I decided to take more once they really hit me.
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yourwar
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Re: First Timer Conerns [Re: StickyWater]
#5399640 - 03/14/06 03:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hello again! I was also wondering how I weigh the shrooms? How will I know how much is a gram or an 1/8th or a 1/16th? Thanks again!
Edited by yourwar (03/14/06 03:37 PM)
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kaniz
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Re: First Timer Conerns [Re: yourwar]
#5399641 - 03/14/06 03:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Get a scale, or just guess
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yourwar
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Re: First Timer Conerns [Re: kaniz]
#5399655 - 03/14/06 03:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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kaniz said: Get a scale, or just guess
Could I weigh them with a pot scale. I know this is a stupid question but like does a gram of weed weigh the same as a gram of shrooms? And an 1/8th of shrooms is 1/8 of an oz, just like weed?
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Jaeger
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Re: First Timer Conerns [Re: yourwar]
#5399670 - 03/14/06 03:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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yep, an oz of sand = oz of shrooms = oz of gold
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yourwar
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Re: First Timer Conerns [Re: Jaeger]
#5399687 - 03/14/06 03:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Haha, i figured and now feel very emberassed! LoL, thanks for the asnwer though!
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kaniz
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Re: First Timer Conerns [Re: yourwar]
#5399713 - 03/14/06 04:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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a gram is a gram is a gram
and remeber - you can always eat more to up the dosage if you think you want/can handle something more intense.
But, once they are in your system - you cant abort it. Once they are in, they are in and you have no choice but to ride it out. (Well, unless you have access to a bunch of Benzos, but personnaly - I dont recomend doing that)
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