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Offlinewilshire
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a gun poll for PAL
    #5398484 - 03/14/06 10:19 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

poll:
Guns?
You may choose only one
Guns?
You may choose only one


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Re: a gun poll for PAL [Re: wilshire]
    #5398491 - 03/14/06 10:22 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

America is know different, there will come a time again when the people will need to protect themselves against either tyranny or invaders. If that happens in my life time I would prefer having an arsenal that is worthy to the cqause and need. I have a good start.
I also know how to make small ieds with two by fours and nails and shotgun shells. The redneck landmine.

Kablow


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Re: a gun poll for PAL [Re: mack_tasticlies]
    #5398492 - 03/14/06 10:23 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I am sure you could fairly easily convert a potato guin into a grenade thrower. some thoguht is all you need. and string.


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Re: a gun poll for PAL [Re: mack_tasticlies]
    #5398514 - 03/14/06 10:30 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I dunno about where you live, but we can't exactly buy grenades at Wal-Mart here...


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Re: a gun poll for PAL [Re: wilshire]
    #5398533 - 03/14/06 10:38 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

ha, i'm the first person to vote i have no desire to own a gun and i don't want a gun. i would never want one in the house, or really anywhere near me. crazy people are going to exist no matter what, i'm not going to live in fear/defensive-mode because of them. if i get jumped and killed, well, that sucks. but i doubt i could live with myself knowing i used a gun on somebody (even if they were attacking me) :shrug:


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Re: a gun poll for PAL [Re: Rono]
    #5398536 - 03/14/06 10:39 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yeah, but you can buy grenade shells from army surplus stores. In the event of a war I am sure that grenades would become pretty easily to obtain, also you could shoot pipe bombs and similar stuff with relatively small adjustments, or maybe you would have to build it alittle different but I am sure it could be done.


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Re: a gun poll for PAL [Re: wilshire]
    #5398582 - 03/14/06 10:49 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I'd like to have a gun, but I would want to get some non-lethal ammunition. I've heard about these shotgun shots that have salt in them, so they don't kill the person, but it causes a bunch of salt to penetrate their skin. I'm sure you can imagine the reaction people have to such a wound.


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Re: a gun poll for PAL [Re: Silversoul]
    #5398614 - 03/14/06 10:56 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Those are fairly common around here...I remember getting shot at with that shit as a youth when on a garden raid outside of the city.  ahhhh....good times. :smirk:


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Re: a gun poll for PAL [Re: Rono]
    #5398633 - 03/14/06 11:02 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

its only effective at very close range, and only in shotguns.


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Re: a gun poll for PAL [Re: mack_tasticlies]
    #5399020 - 03/14/06 12:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

My favorite piece is my Bulgarian AK-47. I have replaced the standard firing pin with a special titanium tipped one. Put a composite lightweight black tactical stock on the end of it. Have a full legal "Hellfire" trigerring mechanism, complete with a 100 round drum on the underside.

http://www.hellfiretriggers.com/ (Make sure you check out the video).

Expensive to fire, but sheer firepower


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Re: a gun poll for PAL [Re: wilshire]
    #5399072 - 03/14/06 12:52 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I'm all for gun rights, although I have no desire to own one myself. Though, if I owned a home, I'd consider getting a shotgun.


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Re: a gun poll for PAL [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5399077 - 03/14/06 12:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I dont want a machine gun if thats what you meant by military weapon, but I assure that my rifles and handguns are more than "effective enough in battle". you guys can shoot 100 rounds in a few seconds sure, but in the end it only takes one well aimed shot to down a guy.


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Re: a gun poll for PAL [Re: wilshire]
    #5399211 - 03/14/06 01:35 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I think every upstanding citizen should own a military weapon. Incase the people ever had to rise up against a tyrannical government. I Know our forefathers would agree with me.


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Re: a gun poll for PAL [Re: blaze2]
    #5399535 - 03/14/06 03:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I dont want a machine gun if thats what you meant by military weapon

nah, i'd consider pretty much any rifle an effective military weapon as long as it had enough power.

a shotgun is great for hunting, shooting, and home defense. it is also a serious close-quarters infantry weapon that is very effective in jungle or urban fighting. you might have a shotgun that you bought for shooting ducks or clays without a thought of this second part. what i'm asking is, is if you, as a citizen, have or plan to have a weapon for which 'militia service' effectiveness is an attribute you consider?


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Re: a gun poll for PAL [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #5399814 - 03/14/06 04:26 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

The_Red_Crayon said:
I think every upstanding citizen should own a military weapon. Incase the people ever had to rise up against a tyrannical government. I Know our forefathers would agree with me.




I didn't know so many people felt this way and that is why they own guns.  :tongue: Interesting...do y'all really think this might happen and that having a gun will help you overthrow the government? Not a rhetorical question...I'm honestly curious to hear more about this subject.

I mean, at what point would you consider the government tyrannical? Would our political structure have to change, i.e. voting and civil liberties no longer honored? Or would it just be if a president/house/supreme court cabal developed that you thought had too much of the wrong kinds of power and didn't keep each other in check?


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Re: a gun poll for PAL [Re: gluke bastid]
    #5399828 - 03/14/06 04:30 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I just worry, because pretty much every modern state who has committed genocide against an undesirable group of people had first passed laws to disarm them. Without an armed citizenry, there is no way to check a tyrannical gov't.

I would say civil liberties would have to be choked to a much higher extreme than they already are today before the everyday citizen is prepared to risk his or her life to gain back their freedom.


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Re: a gun poll for PAL [Re: wilshire]
    #5400305 - 03/14/06 06:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Some chance I could end up as a hunter in later years. Much smaller chance that I'll actually want one for any sort of protection. Don't have any desire to own one. And for the foreseeable future, won't be getting one.

Cool poll. We need more polls.


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Re: a gun poll for PAL [Re: Gijith]
    #5400326 - 03/14/06 06:14 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Gijith said:
Some chance I could end up as a hunter in later years.



Me too. I've always wondered what vennison tastes like, and I wouldn't have the guilt trip of supporting factory farming.


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Re: a gun poll for PAL [Re: wilshire]
    #5400347 - 03/14/06 06:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I have no gun. Nor do I have a need or desire for a gun.


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Re: a gun poll for PAL [Re: Silversoul]
    #5400365 - 03/14/06 06:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Venison is real good. Makes the best jerky.


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