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JacquesCousteau
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Re: I fucking hate people sometimes [Re: Adden]
#5398129 - 03/14/06 08:16 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hell yeah, that does sound better than the spray!
Lizzy, go for the foamage!
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Liz
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when it comes right down to it, I'm really never in a situation on the train when I'm not surrounded by people. I ride the commuter rail during rush hour only, so it's jam packed with witnesses. Same with the parking lot I park at, I'm never by myself or in any physical danger I don't think. And honestly, if someone tried to attack me, I could hold my own unless they had a gun...in which case I'd be fucked regardless of whether I have pepper spray or not. I will not carry a handgun, I don't trust myself with one. I'd probably shoot myself accidentally or something 
When I was about 16 some punk ass kid pulled a knife on me outside a train station in east boston, in a really ghetto neighborhood. He looked all shifty eyed, nervous, and SCARED. The knife looked more like a box cutter than anything He demanded my purse and held the knife out. I had JUST cashed my check downtown, so there was like $400 in my purse, and I was not about to give it to some kid with a drug habit. So I told him if he wanted it, to stab me and fucking take it. It was pretty light out, and while there wasn't anyone specifically watching, if there had been yelling and a big scene, someone would have noticed. He got freaked out and ran away. In retrospect I should have just given him the purse, but I really didn't think, after looking at this kid, that he had any intentions of stabbing anyone.
Anyways, I'll go to the police supply store, maybe get some pepper spray, or maybe buy an asp. I love asps...they're retractable steel batons, the look like a flashlight handle until you push a button and the baton comes flying out. Those things can do some serious damage
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Re: I fucking hate people sometimes [Re: Liz]
#5398243 - 03/14/06 09:12 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well, everything I could possibly add has already been said.
Check your PM's
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Re: I fucking hate people sometimes [Re: Adden]
#5398386 - 03/14/06 09:56 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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S_2 is right.
There's three basic kinds of "pepper spray".
First there are foggers (the spray) These can either deliver a cloud on short distance (say 10ft) or a more directed smaller cone of spray at as longer distance (say 15ft)
As for incapacitation nothing beats a fogger. It gets in their eyes, nostrils, mouth and lungs in one go. The basic problem with foggers is that if you use it in an enclosed space or against the wind, you may be incapacitated as well, as well as bystanders. The ones with a broad cloud require less aim but are notorious for blowback, the cone ones are harder to aim (but like a water pistol - not at all rocket science, really) but also can give blowback and splatter if the assailant is close. I recommend against these types.
Next there is Pepperfoam Pepperfoam obstructs view and requires some aim, but contrary to spray the foam makes it very visible if you hit him properly. It is less effective than spray against glasses and isnt easily inhaled, but it has very little risk of seriously affecting bystanders or yourself. Pepperfoam is so good in fact that it is used by taxi drivers to take out a specific passenger on the back seat. This can NEVER be done with a fogger. Pepperfoam makes a good defensive spray.
Then there is Peppergel Peppergel is best. It obstructs view and shoots far like foam, but does better against the wind. Otherwise it is virtually the same as pepperfoam. On a sadistic note it provides a better correctional experience because it almost cannot be removed. Peppergel basically is a thick, very sticky syrup. All in all I'd say its the best of the three.
Its best to buy the smallest possible unit. A unit is no good if you can't carry it wherever you go, because its too bulky. Also it cannot be used against you when its empty.
The objective of pepperspray is to close the eyes of your opponent so you canm get away. It does so in the first second, but considering some opponents retain memory of where you are so step aside once their eyes are closed.
DO NOT buy teargas - its far less effective than a pepper product. The best would be a pepper gel with an added dye.
Remember that it can take 1 or 2 seconds to reach for a weapon, but that a beastly kick to the shin or knee can be dealt in far less time. It would be best to learn self-defense techniques and reserve the weapon for situations that allow some time to get armed. If you get taken by surprise, no weapon will make it out of your pocket. Don't get taken by surprise.
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Re: I fucking hate people sometimes [Re: Asante]
#5398439 - 03/14/06 10:06 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Remember that it can take 1 or 2 seconds to reach for a weapon, but that a beastly kick to the shin or knee can be dealt in far less time.
Don't forget the testicles!
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Re: I fucking hate people sometimes [Re: Asante]
#5398449 - 03/14/06 10:09 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thank you for the informative post, I really appreciate it. I think we're going tonight, or sometime soon to the supply store, and I will keep in mind what you said and buy accordingly.
5 for you
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Re: I fucking hate people sometimes [Re: Asante]
#5398457 - 03/14/06 10:10 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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The first thing I'm going to buy when I'm 21 is a gun and a concealed weapons permit.
I'll be like BLAT BLAT and go Boondock Saint on someones ass.
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being nice is usually a thankless job. i've gotten used to it.
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Re: I fucking hate people sometimes [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#5398479 - 03/14/06 10:17 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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HellaMeister said: The first thing I'm going to buy when I'm 21 is a gun and a concealed weapons permit.
I'll be like BLAT BLAT and go Boondock Saint on someones ass.
What would be funny is if they were much better with a gun and you wound up with three bullets in you before you even fumbled the gun out of the holster 
Okay, well maybe not funny, but ironic.
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Re: I fucking hate people sometimes [Re: Konnrade]
#5398485 - 03/14/06 10:19 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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No, because I'm going to be like Clint Eastwood.
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Re: I fucking hate people sometimes [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#5398586 - 03/14/06 10:50 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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i didn't know there was a dirty harry 2, until just now
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Re: I fucking hate people sometimes [Re: eric_the_red]
#5398603 - 03/14/06 10:54 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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There's a few of them, I think.
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Re: I fucking hate people sometimes [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#5398695 - 03/14/06 11:20 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: I fucking hate people sometimes [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#5398700 - 03/14/06 11:21 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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this isn't only directed to Hella....but please stop derailing my thread. thanks!
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Re: I fucking hate people sometimes [Re: Liz]
#5398747 - 03/14/06 11:33 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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heh, got sidetracked by the dirty harry stuff.
i was originally going say that you should definitely go with suffer and get some sort of anti-attacker implement. i'd go with the taser. if a person is close enough to grab you, your purse, etc...it might not be a good idea to spray pepper in such a close proximity to your own face.
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Re: I fucking hate people sometimes [Re: Liz]
#5398800 - 03/14/06 11:45 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Liz, no matter how much you hate the human race, me and my woman lub you.
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Re: I fucking hate people sometimes [Re: zee_werp]
#5398967 - 03/14/06 12:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'll have to remember when I visit North America that there are assholes like that around out there...
lol... so where are you from, so I can make a really stupid generalization about your whole continent...
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Re: I fucking hate people sometimes [Re: Liz]
#5399001 - 03/14/06 12:26 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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So I told him if he wanted it, to stab me and fucking take it.
haha that took some balls to say that shit.
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Liz
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Re: I fucking hate people sometimes [Re: mndfreeze]
#5399083 - 03/14/06 12:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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mndfreeze said: Liz, no matter how much you hate the human race, me and my woman lub you.
I wub you guys too
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Re: I fucking hate people sometimes [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#5399087 - 03/14/06 12:57 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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The_Red_Crayon said:
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So I told him if he wanted it, to stab me and fucking take it.
haha that took some balls to say that shit.
There was a lot of money in my wallet, and I'm Jewish. I don't have balls
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