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Ecstasy Rising Documentary
#5397729 - 03/14/06 02:58 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAEauEQEwzQ
I don't know if this should go in other drugs discussion, but anyone seen this? pretty interesting i thought
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Re: Ecstasy Rising Documentary [Re: Budtastic]
#5397741 - 03/14/06 03:20 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ive seen it. I really liked it, its one of the first drug documentaries which i have seen that hasnt been extremely one sided. It gave both sides, namely the DEA/government and the users themselves a fair go at stating their opinion which made it a good watch.
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These people (saying 'positive' things) talk about MDMA as if it were LSD. It's not that fucking great, guys... Shulgin said it himself, has said it many times.
Where is the video, Ecstacy Falling, Psychedelics Rising?
Ask some of these guys how they feel about LSD... shit.
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Re: Ecstasy Rising Documentary [Re: Budtastic]
#5397792 - 03/14/06 04:20 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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An awesome documentary. I think everyone should watch it at least once. It helps to get over the Fear of what we've been fed by mainstream media. Really brave reporting on Pete Jennings part. r.i.p.
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Re: Ecstasy Rising Documentary [Re: nunciate]
#5397797 - 03/14/06 04:27 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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God Nancy Reagan is lame.
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Re: Ecstasy Rising Documentary [Re: Herbus]
#5397802 - 03/14/06 04:34 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Herbus said: These people (saying 'positive' things) talk about MDMA as if it were LSD. It's not that fucking great, guys... Shulgin said it himself, has said it many times.
Where is the video, Ecstacy Falling, Psychedelics Rising?
Ask some of these guys how they feel about LSD... shit.
speak for yourself. Ecstacy helped bring peace between me & my brothers, united friends into life long ones, brought innerpeace withiin myself... should i go on?
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Re: Ecstasy Rising Documentary [Re: 40oz]
#5397812 - 03/14/06 05:01 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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And I don't doubt that it did that... still, it ain't no Goddamned LSD. Essentially, I was speaking for myself, by the way.
I'm not saying ecstacy isn't psychologically helpful for some, surely it is, to me it feels like just getting high, though.
Tryptamines are a different story.
All I was saying... is that LSD-25 > MDMA, and if you'd like to argue on that one I'd be happy to oblige.
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Re: Ecstasy Rising Documentary [Re: Herbus]
#5397862 - 03/14/06 05:29 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just curious, what makes tryptamines another story, and not "just getting high"?
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Re: Ecstasy Rising Documentary [Re: Brugman]
#5397882 - 03/14/06 05:49 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hmmm...
Probably has something to with the is-ness associated with "being" yet doing so without the corporeal manifestation of your body, and instead in the sempiternal state of limitless exploration through the empyreans of your mind, without any biological mechanisms to distinguish yourself as an individual, and thus reaching the conclusion that somehow everything is connected (One). In retrospect, it would seem probable from such a location as described, you may limit your abilities and specify existence down to a single person to best 'experience,' that which is essentially... yourself. (In adherance to the theory that everything is part of a vast network, a vast network I think is often referred to, although the name does not decree proper respect in my mind, as "God.")
On ecstacy, I wanted to rub on girls, be touched and pour water over my head. These were all worldly sensations, albeit nice ones... it still felt like just getting high.
There are things within a tryptamine trips which can be assigned no words because the content in question is without Wordly or temporal description... It is limitless and infinite and has no need for a mechanism so flawed as is human communication...
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Re: Ecstasy Rising Documentary [Re: Herbus]
#5397884 - 03/14/06 05:50 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Herbus said: And I don't doubt that it did that... still, it ain't no Goddamned LSD. Essentially, I was speaking for myself, by the way.
I'm not saying ecstacy isn't psychologically helpful for some, surely it is, to me it feels like just getting high, though.
Tryptamines are a different story.
All I was saying... is that LSD-25 > MDMA, and if you'd like to argue on that one I'd be happy to oblige.
Be a little more open minded for christ sakes. I love LSD, defenitely more than MDMA but there are people out there who dont really like psychdelics, but love things like ecstasy. If you want to argue how LSD is better than MDMA, then just keep it to yourself.
Its not you who can dictate what someone likes and dislikes so there is no point in arguing it.
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How about MDMA + LSD? Hahahaha...yep, the best of both worlds my homies.
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the_notorious said:
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Herbus said: And I don't doubt that it did that... still, it ain't no Goddamned LSD. Essentially, I was speaking for myself, by the way.
I'm not saying ecstacy isn't psychologically helpful for some, surely it is, to me it feels like just getting high, though.
Tryptamines are a different story.
All I was saying... is that LSD-25 > MDMA, and if you'd like to argue on that one I'd be happy to oblige.
Be a little more open minded for christ sakes. I love LSD, defenitely more than MDMA but there are people out there who dont really like psychdelics, but love things like ecstasy. If you want to argue how LSD is better than MDMA, then just keep it to yourself.
Its not you who can dictate what someone likes and dislikes so there is no point in arguing it.
I guess I REALLY have to write it out for you guys huh? Ok, let me rewrite my statements in a shroomery-friendly manner...
I THINK LSD is better than MDMA, think whatever you want...
I THINK LSD is special
I WAS expressing my desire to see a similiar documentary made about LSD.
This whole 'discussion' if that's what you call it, ignited from somebody telling me to speak for myself, which I was already doing...
I THINK that I can think whatever the fuck I want,
I ALSO THINK you're allowed the same priviledges.
"Keep it to yourself."
I could just as easily respond by saying that you should keep your opinions regarding my opinions to yourself, but people don't keep their opinions to themselves, do they? No that's why there are message boards on the internet... message boards where I can say shit like
I THINK LSD is way better than MDMA
And right now sleep deprevation has rendered my censorship ineffective...
So that said we could either stage an epic battle of drug praising and drug scolding or we could just accept that my neurochemistry and your neurochemistry and that other person's neurochemistry may all have varying affinities for different compounds...
And everyone could be cool with the fact that I THINK LSD-25 is better than MDMA. When I said I'd be "happy to oblige" an argument concerning why LSD is better, I meant I would try to explain how I PERSONALLY think LSD is a better drug.
Have your own goddamned opinion... But don't tell me mine is faulty unless you can provide evidence... so far the only evidence is other people telling me to "speak for myself," (thanks by the way, as if I wasn't doing this 24/7 before hand) or informing me to be a little more open-minded... it obviously becomes quite a pointless argument when we begin personality bashing, which I didn't do, I was demonstrating my pronounced preference for one substance over another, you guys ensued with your "advice" on how to improve my temperance... by speaking for myself and "opening" my mind.
Cha... whatever you say guys.
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Re: Ecstasy Rising Documentary [Re: Herbus]
#5397958 - 03/14/06 06:56 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Herbus said:
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the_notorious said:
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Herbus said: And I don't doubt that it did that... still, it ain't no Goddamned LSD. Essentially, I was speaking for myself, by the way.
I'm not saying ecstacy isn't psychologically helpful for some, surely it is, to me it feels like just getting high, though.
Tryptamines are a different story.
All I was saying... is that LSD-25 > MDMA, and if you'd like to argue on that one I'd be happy to oblige.
Be a little more open minded for christ sakes. I love LSD, defenitely more than MDMA but there are people out there who dont really like psychdelics, but love things like ecstasy. If you want to argue how LSD is better than MDMA, then just keep it to yourself.
Its not you who can dictate what someone likes and dislikes so there is no point in arguing it.
[cut down] /reasonably defensive
Easy there, tiger. MDMA has done a lot of good for a lot of people, just like LSD. People will state opinions that they strongly believe and cling to them, tenacisously.
I, for one, have had much experience with both. They both serve two very different purposes. MDMA being the preferred right now. I'm not saying it's better, but, man... will you roll with me? It'll be fun. Promise. I can't do acid anymore... Too much too long. Acid had shown me things that would have taken years to realize on my own, and I am thankful for that. But rolling? Still reasonably new thus far. And it's aids in social situations. Something acid had never done. I give it two thumbs up. Just like I did acid back in the day...
Rambles.... apples and oranges.
Both were life changing experiences, mind you. And I am product of both so far.
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Re: Ecstasy Rising Documentary [Re: Herbus]
#5397965 - 03/14/06 07:01 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Ecstasy Rising Documentary [Re: Herbus]
#5397966 - 03/14/06 07:02 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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There has been an awesome documentery on LSD.
LSD - The Beyond Within
It's an older one, but its still good.
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Re: Ecstasy Rising Documentary [Re: 40oz]
#5398046 - 03/14/06 07:40 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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40oz said:
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Herbus said: These people (saying 'positive' things) talk about MDMA as if it were LSD. It's not that fucking great, guys... Shulgin said it himself, has said it many times.
Where is the video, Ecstacy Falling, Psychedelics Rising?
Ask some of these guys how they feel about LSD... shit.
speak for yourself. Ecstacy helped bring peace between me & my brothers, united friends into life long ones, brought innerpeace withiin myself... should i go on?
....."your mileage may very"
w3rd.
Ecstacy changed my life. It taught me to open up to people, and helped me to learn to socialize.
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Re: Ecstasy Rising Documentary [Re: Silversoul]
#5398080 - 03/14/06 07:50 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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That documentery and what some of you are saying has changed my mind on my decision to use ecstacy. However I really don't want to be popping anything except MDMA in my mouth when the time comes. Nothing laced, any advice and how to much sure the pill is not laced?
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Pirate_Patrick said: That documentery and what some of you are saying has changed my mind on my decision to use ecstacy. However I really don't want to be popping anything except MDMA in my mouth when the time comes. Nothing laced, any advice and how to much sure the pill is not laced?
http://dancesafe.org/testingkits/
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Re: Ecstasy Rising Documentary [Re: Herbus]
#5398085 - 03/14/06 07:52 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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You talk about LSD as if it's some sort of CP.
I mean, come on. LSD is cool and all... but nothing compares to the positive powers of CP.
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Re: Ecstasy Rising Documentary [Re: Konnrade]
#5399050 - 03/14/06 12:42 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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yes i love this documentary totally non bias. I showed my gf who was totally not informed and then she was down to roll.. WoOT funny, great video tho informative.
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Re: Ecstasy Rising Documentary [Re: Konnrade]
#5399070 - 03/14/06 12:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Konnrade said: You talk about LSD as if it's some sort of CP.
I mean, come on. LSD is cool and all... but nothing compares to the positive powers of CP.
You and your CP, you're going to get someone in trouble one day.
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