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Grizzly Man
    #5396999 - 03/13/06 10:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Has anyone else seen  this flick?

It's about Timothy Treadwell, who went to live with grizzly bears for 13 summers in a row.

Yeah, he got eaten.

I think it's amazing that he lived as long as he did. It's not like he was trying to hide from the bears at all...he would get RIGHT up close to them - sometimes just a couple feet away - and even yell at them.

I also think he was certifiably insane :smirk:

The only real tragic part was that he brought his girlfriend along for the final trip.

My favorite part? There's two: one is when he gets his hat stolen by a fox and gets really angry because of it, and the other is when he flies off the handle talking about the park rangers.


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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: trendal]
    #5397007 - 03/13/06 10:27 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

My favorite parts also.

I think he's incredibley stupid but thank him for his footage, it's incredible.

There's been tons of threads about it here.


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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: Adom]
    #5397069 - 03/13/06 10:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah that was truly amazing that he lived with them for as long as he did.

"Why hello there Mr. Chocolate!"

Yeah he was a wierdo. It's amazing that he had pet foxes, and the bears left him alone for as long as they did. His girlfriend was a nut for staying with him...


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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: trendal]
    #5397071 - 03/13/06 10:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Never seen it, but now I want to. Who the f* goes to live with bears?


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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: mycogirl]
    #5397086 - 03/13/06 10:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Never seen it, but now I want to.  Who the f*  goes to live with bears?




Timothy Treadwell.....  :grin:


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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: mycogirl]
    #5397114 - 03/13/06 10:59 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I enjoyed this film. Timothy Leary is completely insane and deserved to be bear food. The bear did not deserve to be killed just for eating a stupid human. I have nothing against hunting and shooting animals for food or sport, but to kill a bear simply because it killed a human is wrong.


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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: rockytop83]
    #5397117 - 03/13/06 11:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Timothy Leary is completely insane and deserved to be bear food.




*Timothy Treadwell :wink:


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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: rockytop83]
    #5397123 - 03/13/06 11:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

The sad part is he would of been thrilled to be bear shit.


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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: Adom]
    #5397131 - 03/13/06 11:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

sorry....    :getstoned:


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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: trendal]
    #5397133 - 03/13/06 11:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

But you're right, the bear didn't really deserve to be killed. The guy basically offered himself up as food to the bear. He always knew he would be killed by the bears, eventually.

Worse yet, I think he would be devastated by the fact that the bear who killed him was then shot and killed. He seemed to truly care about the bears.


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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: trendal]
    #5397147 - 03/13/06 11:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

make sure you watch the dvd. The TV version leftout a lot of good parts, mainly timothy TREADWELL acting like a loon. Dropping the Fbomb all over the place.


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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: rockytop83]
    #5397158 - 03/13/06 11:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I saw a rental version, and yeah it had all those parts in it :smirk:

I rolled around laughing when he started going nuts about the park rangers and all that.

"fuck you! I win! I fucking win! fuck you!" :lol:


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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: trendal]
    #5397166 - 03/13/06 11:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

One of the people I live with owns the DVD. I might watch it tonight.


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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: trendal]
    #5397169 - 03/13/06 11:11 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

His little episode about the rain was hysterical.


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    #5397194 - 03/13/06 11:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

idiot/insane

but seriously man eating bears....its his fault he created a maneating bear...in reality you have to kill them usually...imo fucking idiot lasted* much longer than he should have

i had to turn off the tv cuz i was yelling at it.


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    #5397206 - 03/13/06 11:21 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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His little episode about the rain was hysterical.




"I must thank god, allah, and the...the buddha flying thingie"

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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: trendal]
    #5397257 - 03/13/06 11:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

The foxes were probably the cutest thing I've ever seen.


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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: trendal]
    #5397600 - 03/14/06 01:56 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Has anyone else seen  this flick?

It's about Timothy Treadwell, who went to live with grizzly bears for 13 summers in a row.

Yeah, he got eaten.

I think it's amazing that he lived as long as he did. It's not like he was trying to hide from the bears at all...he would get RIGHT up close to them - sometimes just a couple feet away - and even yell at them.

I also think he was certifiably insane :smirk:

The only real tragic part was that he brought his girlfriend along for the final trip.

My favorite part? There's two: one is when he gets his hat stolen by a fox and gets really angry because of it, and the other is when he flies off the handle talking about the park rangers.




I think you're a market promoter paid by the Canadian ministry of tourism.  :wink:

That guy was fucked.  But Werner's treatment of his life was...respectful and a bit odd.  He's like Mike Myers's "Sprockets" antithesis.  :lol:


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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: trendal]
    #5397889 - 03/14/06 05:54 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I have a feeling he watched too many movies. He truly believed that meat-eating animals and humans could live together peacefully? Too many Disney movies. He must have expected to get eaten, or he was crazy...

I wanna see it!

Maybe I'll go live with sharks or lions for several years, they love humans.. right?


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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: Brugman]
    #5398103 - 03/14/06 08:01 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Watch "Into the Lion's Den".


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    #5398157 - 03/14/06 08:36 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

That movie was boring as hell.


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    #5399154 - 03/14/06 01:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: rockytop83]
    #5399199 - 03/14/06 01:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Timothy Leary is completely insane and deserved to be bear food.




hahahahahahahahaha


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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: trendal]
    #5399200 - 03/14/06 01:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I saw commercials for that show. I gathered that the guy had been eaten and that the show was going to be a documentary about his life, his passion for bears, and his untimely end.

The second I saw video that he shot where he is a few feet away from some bears and he is talking to them...I literally screamed at the TV "YOU DUMBFUCK!".

Does anybody deserve to die such a horrific death? No. Did the guy have it coming though? Yes.


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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: kilroy69]
    #5399224 - 03/14/06 01:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Any pics or video?

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I mean of him being eatin or left over parts?


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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: theuser]
    #5399287 - 03/14/06 01:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

There is an audio tape of him and his girlfriend being attacked and eaten by a bear, but it has never been released to the public that I know of. The lens cap was on during the entire attack, so there is only audio.

I'm pretty sure there's pics on the net of his remains, after they found the kill site.


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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: trendal]
    #5399290 - 03/14/06 01:54 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

That scene is wild, man. With Werner Herzog listening to the tape, but you don't get to hear it. Vry powerful filmmaking decision right there.


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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: trendal]
    #5399299 - 03/14/06 01:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

the audio was destroyed

AK authorities collected 3 garbage bags of remains from inside the bear


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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5399308 - 03/14/06 02:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah the scene of him listening to the tape was really powerful. Especially when he puts his hand up to his face and asks her to just stop the recording.


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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: trendal]
    #5399519 - 03/14/06 03:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

The guy was an idiot, and probably did more to the detriment of those bears than he helped them. I agree with oDin and others here that he lasted alot longer than he should have. I can only hold very limited respect for someone with such a distorted view of the wilderness.

It was obvious the guy was completely self-absorbed and living in a fantasy world. Like when he was being followed around by the foxes... it was obvious he had been feeding them. It was pretty disgusting

The audio isn't destroyed, but it was given to the friends and family of timothy... all of whom will probalby never share it with us. The only reason we'd want to hear it anyway is for shock value, theres no real purpose to listen to a man being eaten alive.


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    #5399561 - 03/14/06 03:14 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I gots to get that yo.


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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: vivid]
    #5399573 - 03/14/06 03:16 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I caught parts of this on TV the other night.

At first, I was expecting a docu along the lines of the "Wild Parrots of Telegraph Hill" -- (I highly recommend you watch this one also). However, within a few moments of watching this one - it was clear that this guy was off his rocker and insane.

One of the parts that stands out the most, is him crouching down over a pile of fresh bear crap, holding his hands over it saying "I can feel it, it was inside of her, it was a part of her" and rambling off like he was having a very intimate experience with the bear because he was feeling the warmth coming off of its poo.

The guy is insane and has lost the plot - it seems like had had a very difficult life, hit rock bottom - and then re-formed his sense of identity in the most peculiar way.

Its fascinating, but also very sad at the same time. I think this guy needed some serious help.

And, its not like the guy who made this documentary did any sort of ?tricky edits? to make him come off as being a loon ? I thought he approached it from a fairly unbiased point of view and let Timothys footage speak for itself.


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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: trendal]
    #5399872 - 03/14/06 04:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Seems like I'm the only one who was totally fascinated by this movie. The fact that the dude was crazy didn't stop me from becoming totally absorbed in the fantasy world of bears and harmony and perfection that he tried to create for himself and capture in his own footage. The guy was NUTS, living in his own little world under all these false assumptions about how perfect and peaceful the world is...but I mean shit almost everyone does that to a certain degree. This guy just took it really far, and didn't edit himself. Didn't ever seem to think it was weird to videotape himself acting like a total jackass. I won't say I think the guy is right or that his views make sense or that he is anything besides a nutcase but like Herzog I think I understand the desire for beauty and perfection and escape that was motivating him.

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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: gluke bastid]
    #5399897 - 03/14/06 04:41 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Seems like I'm the only one who was totally fascinated by this movie





Nope, I was very fascinated by this movie and thought it was well done, thought provoking and interesting. I only caught bits of the first part, as there were other shows that I was watching. But, watched the last hour and a half on TV right through. I'm tempted to rent the DVD so I can watch the entire thing.

The fact that he was nuts didnt stop me from enjoying it - it increased the interest in the movie. IMO - the movie became more about him, than about the bears - which wasnt what I was expecting.


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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: kaniz]
    #5399953 - 03/14/06 04:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, didn't bother to read the last post before mine.  :tongue:

I'm a lazy bastid sometimes  :stoned:


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    #5399977 - 03/14/06 04:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I don't know why they killed the bear, I would think the guy would have loved to have died like that.

Oh but I bet it was so awful and bloody.




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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: trendal]
    #5400065 - 03/14/06 05:12 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, he got eaten.
I also think he was certifiably insane


Oh, I dunno. I got eaten by my ex last weekend and it wasn't that bad.  :wink:


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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: Diploid]
    #5400119 - 03/14/06 05:27 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I actually read this in readers digest before it was a movie. I told my brother about it and then called him up to tell him when it was on. Crazy motherfucker. They killed the bear because it was going after humans. It went after the guy that brought him in every year and took him out. He said he almost did not make it back to the plane.


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    #5400138 - 03/14/06 05:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

"Treadwell had carried bear-repelling spray for self-protection when he first began coming to Alaska to commune with the bears but had stopped carrying it in recent years. The founder of Grizzly People, an organization for bear lovers, Treadwell didn't believe it was right to spray bears with the irritating pepper spray -- even if it caused no long-term injuries to the bears."


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    #5400269 - 03/14/06 05:59 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Why is that ridiculous?

You're going into the bear's home, intruding, then spraying the bear in the eyes with chemicals when it tries to defend its own home.

That'd be like me going to your house, barging in unannounced, then hit you with a taser when you get angry at me. :smirk:

Note that personally I have no problem with carrying pepper spray for protection against wild animals...but I do understand where Treadwell was coming from.


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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: trendal]
    #5403254 - 03/15/06 12:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

there was another thread on this in here...

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5345004

has some interesting links and info on Treadwell.

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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: rockytop83]
    #5404108 - 03/15/06 03:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I also heard that pepper spray stuff doesn't work. Just gets the bear more pissed off, and bears 100 of yards away will actually come towards the scent if they smell it on the wind. :shrug:
Basically a grizzly can kill you whenever it wants to.


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    #5404887 - 03/15/06 06:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Not if you carry the proper weapon.


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    #5408597 - 03/16/06 02:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I also heard grizzly bears are bullet proof


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Re: Grizzly Man [Re: gluke bastid]
    #5408608 - 03/16/06 02:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I'm pretty sure my Kimber would teach one to leave me alone.

My buddy who lived in Alaska bought a ultralight 44, when it's loaded the gun doubles in weight. It's made of titanium, it's designed for Grizzly protection.

He never needed it and eventually stopped carrying it.


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