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prototypical_man
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2000 jars.
#5396252 - 03/13/06 07:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ok so heres the deal.
Ive long tried to get grains to work for me. Ive been working on it for a year and still no dice. Im done with that.
anyway Ive always had CONSISTENT results with the pf tek. and ive managed to grown 3lbs (dry) last run with it, 200 jars. So my next goal is 15lbs (dry).. And im brainstorming.. humm Where exactly can I find 2,000 jars?
I know invariably the response to this post is someone going to tell me Mycobags, or grains and etc.. But really , Ive been messing with that for A WHOLE YEAR. Probably half my growing efforts have gone to grains with less than 10% sucess rate. However the Pf method is usually around 90% success rate for me. Im just beyond being interested debating what substrate i should be useing, or even what the problem might be.
So, What im really interested in is If anyone has any ideas or advice on where to aquire 2,000 jars at either a reasonable cost, or what im really thinking would be awsome would be some sort of reverse recycling (free from a recycling plant).. If anyone has ever done anything like that please speak your tale.
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Razman
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sounds like a dealing question...
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Premedman1
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Give me 30 colonized PF jars, and a garbage bag of h/poo, and I'll get those numbers.
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Re: 2000 jars. [Re: Razman]
#5396367 - 03/13/06 07:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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luck
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Re: 2000 jars. [Re: MustNotBe]
#5396402 - 03/13/06 07:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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yah man, wtf are u thinkin tryin to grow in bulk with jars... I assume you have some ginormous FC cause if u arent takin the time to spawn, your probably not takin the time to case or anything either huh? Whatever your up to doesnt sound like a good idea and if you were a dealer your not a very smart one. Paying for 2000 jars, even at a "discount" is gonna def. cut into your bottom line, so i hope your not tryin to make money... not to mention all the PF ingredients your gonna have to pay for. oh yeah, hope you also have like a 50 gal. pressure cooker; your gonna be at the stove switchin jars every 1hr 1/2 for how many hours. Not tryin to be a dick but think about what everyone's thinkin when they see a request as to where to find 2000 jars. best of luck on that one dude -ShroomR
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prototypical_man
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Re: 2000 jars. [Re: MustNotBe]
#5396418 - 03/13/06 07:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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no no not a dealing question I plan on eating all 15 lbs myself.
-------------------- I have 29 Strains as of current.. I LOVE TO TRADE. See my bio for the strains I currently have. I seek: Strains I don't have, exotic species, Edibles, Vacutainers, A accurate scale, chicken manure, worm castings, worms for making my own worm castings, plastic lids for mason jars, light malt extract, Kelp Meal, A Ph Tester, A microscope.
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prototypical_man
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I have cooked 400 jars in a day befor, I have several huge pots on the porch with hotplates on timers.
I also have a walk in closet fruiting chamber.
Yes I do case, and sometimes I spawn to straw/poo. Although I have yet to get big results from straw/poo.
And like im saying , im probably not looking to buy 2000 jars, but moreso looking for the possiblity of getting them from a recycling plant or some other alternative.
-------------------- I have 29 Strains as of current.. I LOVE TO TRADE. See my bio for the strains I currently have. I seek: Strains I don't have, exotic species, Edibles, Vacutainers, A accurate scale, chicken manure, worm castings, worms for making my own worm castings, plastic lids for mason jars, light malt extract, Kelp Meal, A Ph Tester, A microscope.
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pcubmycol
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that sounds like insanity...
If you ate that over the period of a year, you would average 18g per day.
have fun, and figure out what you're doing wrong with grain and PF tek. you should be getting 100% success rates doing grows like that.
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shroomr4life
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breakfeast, lunch, and dinner.... your brain is gonna be toasted when its all said and done... isnt is usually a good idea to wait 2 weeks between trips so your tolerance goes back down anyway? I'd highly reccomend a break dude... but thats entirely your call. And 4 all I know this might be your last grow and you just want 15 pounds of fungus for the rest of your trippin dayz or somethin... -ShroomR
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mungojerry
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man for the longest time i tried to get spawn to work and it continuosly pissed me the fuck off and i jus said fuck it im stickin to cakes but i then found a great way to do it im not gona tell u to try grains again but if u do want to try just one more time ill show u a easy i mean fuckin easy foolproof idiot proof way to colonize spawn
if u wanna go for one more shot pm me and ill run ya through it because 2000 jars is simply insane and expensive
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Re: 2000 jars. [Re: pcubmycol]
#5396458 - 03/13/06 08:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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2000 jars Lol, you must have a HUGE house, I dont think I could even fit 2000 fruiting cakes in my bedroom.
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Re: 2000 jars. [Re: MindsEye]
#5396504 - 03/13/06 08:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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i have had great success with just casing pf cakes.
but is a dealing question.

ps.) that's 10 cakes. and 2 oz dry. (FIRST FLUSH)
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prototypical_man
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You know the biggest problem i have with the shroomery is hardly anyone ever ever ever answers a question directly.
-------------------- I have 29 Strains as of current.. I LOVE TO TRADE. See my bio for the strains I currently have. I seek: Strains I don't have, exotic species, Edibles, Vacutainers, A accurate scale, chicken manure, worm castings, worms for making my own worm castings, plastic lids for mason jars, light malt extract, Kelp Meal, A Ph Tester, A microscope.
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HSIHd
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OK, need some help with math on this one. 1/2 pint jars are 4in high by 3in deep by 3in wide. How much volume would 2000 jars take up? Thats a shittin of room. For the jars alone.
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shroomr4life
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Re: 2000 jars. [Re: HSIHd]
#5396592 - 03/13/06 08:44 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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he must have a warehouse or somethin... lol, :-)
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prototypical_man
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Re: 2000 jars. [Re: HSIHd]
#5396593 - 03/13/06 08:44 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Not as big as you would think, 200 jars fits in a big rubbermade tub. 10 big rubbermade tubs.
-------------------- I have 29 Strains as of current.. I LOVE TO TRADE. See my bio for the strains I currently have. I seek: Strains I don't have, exotic species, Edibles, Vacutainers, A accurate scale, chicken manure, worm castings, worms for making my own worm castings, plastic lids for mason jars, light malt extract, Kelp Meal, A Ph Tester, A microscope.
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prototypical_man
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Re: 2000 jars. [Re: HSIHd]
#5396599 - 03/13/06 08:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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minds eye, I do case my pf jars. I achive results like yours pictured. Someone else assumed I dont case.
-------------------- I have 29 Strains as of current.. I LOVE TO TRADE. See my bio for the strains I currently have. I seek: Strains I don't have, exotic species, Edibles, Vacutainers, A accurate scale, chicken manure, worm castings, worms for making my own worm castings, plastic lids for mason jars, light malt extract, Kelp Meal, A Ph Tester, A microscope.
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snowflake
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have you ever just thought of using bigger jars? it seems like that might be the best solution?
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prototypical_man
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Re: 2000 jars. [Re: snowflake]
#5396620 - 03/13/06 08:54 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ok I admit im not eating all 15 lbs.. ha but lets just call it bulk pf and not a dealing question .. for all public matters I insist this is purely fictional grow..
-------------------- I have 29 Strains as of current.. I LOVE TO TRADE. See my bio for the strains I currently have. I seek: Strains I don't have, exotic species, Edibles, Vacutainers, A accurate scale, chicken manure, worm castings, worms for making my own worm castings, plastic lids for mason jars, light malt extract, Kelp Meal, A Ph Tester, A microscope.
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prototypical_man
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Of course ive thought of using bigger jars.. Just that Pf tek can only get so big befor it fails. Grains can go bigger but, grains never do good with me. Like I said I spent a YEAR trying to get grains to work for me.
Ive tried it feels like everythign for grains. Ive done wbs, popcorn, cracked corn , rye , and probably like 10 other things.. Ive tried soaking, not soaking , simmering not simmering , rinseing , not rinsing , changing to several types of each ... Tried jars, big jars, mycobags.. all sorts of combinations of every knowen method ive read... Ive follwed instructions to the T and always had bad results..
Now im not saying that they dont work.. Im saying I get BAD RESULTS. As in pressure cooking 20 jars and having 4 fully colonize. That shit ain't worth it to me. Where as pf tek has always been the same to me, not the fastest but always worked.. maybe 1 jar contam per 10, if even.
-------------------- I have 29 Strains as of current.. I LOVE TO TRADE. See my bio for the strains I currently have. I seek: Strains I don't have, exotic species, Edibles, Vacutainers, A accurate scale, chicken manure, worm castings, worms for making my own worm castings, plastic lids for mason jars, light malt extract, Kelp Meal, A Ph Tester, A microscope.
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-------------------- We have just enough religion to make us hate each other but not enough to make us love one another..
Edited by snowflake (03/13/06 09:18 PM)
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Fictional
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How much are you willing to spend on 2000 jars?
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prototypical_man
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Re: 2000 jars. [Re: snowflake]
#5396728 - 03/13/06 09:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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OUT OF STOCK.. And more expesive than the walmart down the street...
Has any one ever gone to a recycling plant to get jars?
-------------------- I have 29 Strains as of current.. I LOVE TO TRADE. See my bio for the strains I currently have. I seek: Strains I don't have, exotic species, Edibles, Vacutainers, A accurate scale, chicken manure, worm castings, worms for making my own worm castings, plastic lids for mason jars, light malt extract, Kelp Meal, A Ph Tester, A microscope.
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MindsEye
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Those are half gallon jars, cakes aren't recommended for anything over 1 pint, they take too long to colonize and dry out and have issues.....
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Re: 2000 jars. [Re: MindsEye]
#5396817 - 03/13/06 09:45 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Alright be smart about it. Get a couple industrial trash bags and use them like microbags. fill them with hpoo and inoculate and bam! spice it up a notch......anyway, if for some crazy reason you do find 2000 jars,(id just inoculate the trash bags, or giant plastic tubs.) then use the cooler tek. get alot of camping coolers, from diff. stores so no one asks questions, you could fit atleast 20-30 jars if im not mistaken in one of them. thats if you stack them on top of each other, and pour in some hot water. let it sit over night and the you have sterile jars. But then what about the spores? unless you have alot of prints and syringes. its not like you can purchase 1000 syringes(I couldnt do the math..). anyhoo, happy shroomin.
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MindsEye
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I just did an average here, jars cost me about $.60 each for 2000 jars that is $1,200.00. thats insane you shouldnt have to spend that much to grow 15lbs. Just get grain and poo down, or at least spawn the cakes to poo.
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If you pull this thing off, send pictures man. Lots and lots of pictures. I'd love to see 2000 fruiting cakes. Ebay? Anyway, good luck man.
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Re: 2000 jars. [Re: MindsEye]
#5396879 - 03/13/06 10:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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No kiding, If it is for distrabution, just grow with moderation. That way theres no suspiction, and it wont cost an arm and a leg. 20-30 jars cased would yeild enough to get going, and while your"giving" away what youve grown, you could be growing some more.. that way its a constant flow. if its like here you get some nice shit all at once, and then for 5, 6 months nothing....
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Buying all of those mason jars will raise some red flags.
Mason jars, apparrently, are one of the 'signs' to look out for in suspicion of a meth lab.
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Re: 2000 jars. [Re: Hoss]
#5396923 - 03/13/06 10:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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yah, I agree.....soooo, if you have to get mason jars BUY FROM DIFFRENT STORES!!! that way you can get like, 2 paks of 12 from 5 or 6 diffrent stores, or jsut buy the plastic 1/2 pints.....
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prototypical_man said: You know the biggest problem i have with the shroomery is hardly anyone ever ever ever answers a question directly.
You know the biggest problem I have with the shroomery is people asking stupid questions like where to get 2000 jars. If you cant figure out what sort of places may contain jars, you have no right expecting others to tell you and bitching if you get people who cant answer your question. The store is the only place you are going to find bulk jars unless you know of someplace special around you. In which case no one else can tell you about it. Ask a question that deserves a direct answer and you get one (usually).
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nuk1m
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what kind of problems do you run into with grain? Contams? Drying out? Too wet??
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Hoss
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Re: 2000 jars. [Re: nuk1m]
#5397009 - 03/13/06 10:27 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, let's start with what's going wrong with your grains... LOL!
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Delinquentes
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I DEFY you to find 166 cases of jars in my town, and it's no small town.
This is a rediculous thread.
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Insanity, search for "Magash's Rye tek", follow it to the letter, you can't fail as long as you have a PC. He recommends Tyvek for the jars, but what my buddy does is punch two holes, one smaller than the other. He then puts a dab of silicone RTV sealant (comes in different sized tubes, smells like vinegar) on both ends of the smaller hole. When this is dry in a day it becomes a self healing injection site. Find polyester fiber fill, grab a chunk, compress it a little and pull it through the larger hole. Fool proof. Casings are easy, in the time it takes for the jars to be ready, you can learn how to do em.
I've never bothered to though, cause my buddy does it, then shares the fruits of his labor .
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prototypical_man said: no no not a dealing question I plan on eating all 15 lbs myself.
 Yeah, RIGHT!
You either intend to sell jars or mushrooms. Anyway, to get Ball jars at wholesale cost, you need to contact the manufacturer directly. Ball is owned by Jardin Home Brands, at least they were when I last checked. I used to have the email address, but I don't now. You should be able to find it if you poke around. They had a minimum order of either $1000 or 1000 jars, I can't remember which.
Just remember, this is ALOT of jars and if you do order them, you will be paying freight shipping costs and you'll need a loading dock and some space in the garage.
Good luck with your business....err, I mean personal grow .
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Everyone is trying to tell this guy how to do grains/bulk. We all know it's not that damn hard, so I believe he has ulterior motives that I mentioned above.
Nobody is going to come out and say "I want to start a PF jar business that competes with the vendors here, help me out!"
Know what I mean?
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Re: 2000 jars. [Re: FooMan]
#5397048 - 03/13/06 10:42 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Very true.
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FooMan



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THIS post is also kind of fishy. Didn't he say he already tried and failed with mycobags? Why would you want to make your own then?
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Re: 2000 jars. [Re: FooMan]
#5397135 - 03/13/06 11:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Myself I could care less if you are starting a business or not. Contact the jar company you want and ask about bulk prices most of them have em.
Starting a business or eating 18 grams a day more power to ya
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prototypical_man said: You know the biggest problem i have with the shroomery is hardly anyone ever ever ever answers a question directly.
You know the biggest problem I have with the shroomery is people asking stupid questions like where to get 2000 jars. If you cant figure out what sort of places may contain jars, you have no right expecting others to tell you and bitching if you get people who cant answer your question. The store is the only place you are going to find bulk jars unless you know of someplace special around you. In which case no one else can tell you about it. Ask a question that deserves a direct answer and you get one (usually).
all I sense is bad karma......
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shroomr4life
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somebody's gota stop this and just close the thread..
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One time take a deep toke from your favorite bong and consider your life, dude. Does it make sense to inject 2000 jars with 8,000 holes? I know that spawn bags might scare you a little bit, but don't you have anything else that you might like to do than inject jars all day? Don't you have a life?
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Ok I admit im not eating all 15 lbs.. ha but lets just call it bulk pf and not a dealing question .. for all public matters I insist this is purely fictional grow
You earned the lock with this.
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