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Mr_Psilocin
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Mushroom over dose?
#5394406 - 03/13/06 06:31 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have been told that you can die from mushrooms and that there are many side effects. Does this count for cubensis too? Somebody said a kid started bleeding in the brain and died. I personaly have always thought that there is no chance of over doseing on mushrooms just like by marijuana and that there are no side effects. But since some people say differently I need to know for sure. Can you guys please help me out?
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Chikitta
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Re: Mushroom over dose? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
#5394417 - 03/13/06 06:41 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Bleeding in the brain? You actually beleived that?
And no, you can't overdose on psilocybin. You'd have to eat pretty much your body weight in mushrooms before you did any damage (and even then, I'm not sure if it would kill you or just make you really sick).
As with any drug, there are side effects from mushrooms, but none of them can be fatal.
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kaniz
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Re: Mushroom over dose? [Re: Chikitta]
#5394454 - 03/13/06 07:28 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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There are mushrooms that /can/ kill you. However, magic mushrooms can not kill you.
The main 'risk' in doing mushrooms, is eating an inproperly identified mushrooms. There are a number of mushrooms that can look like magic mushrooms, and grow in the same areas (in nature), and can be very dangerous if you eat them.
So, if you are out in the woods and see something that look like Cubes, /DO NOT/ eat them until you are able to 100% absolutly identify them by someone who knows what they are doing.
Or, buy mushrooms - as most mushrooms that people buy seem to be home grown, and people arnt out there growing poisionous mushrooms to sell.
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MiddleFinger
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Re: Mushroom over dose? [Re: kaniz]
#5394469 - 03/13/06 07:43 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Actually, there have been psilocybin-realted deaths reported. However, I believe that there has only been one confirmed overdose. And even in that case, the victim was a small child and had been eating cyans from his garden for weeks. He also may have been allergic. In 99.9% of cases, mushrooms are physically harmless.
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Re: Mushroom over dose? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
#5394573 - 03/13/06 09:03 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah.. im pretty sure you could od on shroomies. what is shrooms? the poison or "toxic" wich is the cyclabin(hope I spelled that right) that your body ingests. its just like any other mushroom, besides edible ones , they contain poison thats what gives you the hallucinogenic affects......imo...happy shroomin!
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StickyWater
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Everything can be overdosed on eventually... Whether it's really possible to physically do without deliberately trying to kill yourself is another story... Do your own research and stop listening to your friends, they know fuck all
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ClammyJoe
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Re: Mushroom over dose? [Re: StickyWater]
#5394666 - 03/13/06 09:56 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ugh, ignorance is sad
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oblivia
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Re: Mushroom over dose? [Re: ClammyJoe]
#5394672 - 03/13/06 10:01 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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i dont think you can od. i read somewhere it takes 230mg to kill a rat, you trip of 10mg i think.
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Nashbar
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Re: Mushroom over dose? [Re: ClammyJoe]
#5395529 - 03/13/06 03:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
TheMadConductor said: Ugh, ignorance is sad
ignorance is bliss...
all the old, fat, rich, white men telling people how dangerous drugs are go home and sleep really well
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Mr_Psilocin
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Re: Mushroom over dose? [Re: Nashbar]
#5396039 - 03/13/06 05:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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So some of you are saying that you can over dose on cubensis?
-------------------- "I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn't like it. I didn't inhale, and never tried it again." Bill Clinton "A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly fifteen hundred pounds of marijuana within about 15 minutes to induce a lethal response... In strict medical terms, marijuana is far safer than many of the foods we commonly consume. For example, eating ten raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death." DEA Administrative Law Judge Francis L. Young Opinion and Recommended Ruling, Findings of Fact, http://www.hempfiles.com/php/quotes.php
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IwantELVES
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Re: Mushroom over dose? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
#5396068 - 03/13/06 06:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Psilocybin has an extremely high LD50. Unless your goal was to overdose, it will most likely never happen.
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day_tripper
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Quote:
SciaticGryphon said: yeah.. im pretty sure you could od on shroomies. what is shrooms? the poison or "toxic" wich is the cyclabin(hope I spelled that right) that your body ingests. its just like any other mushroom, besides edible ones , they contain poison thats what gives you the hallucinogenic affects......imo...happy shroomin!
uhm please ignore everything SciaticGryphon said above...
PSILOCYBIN/PSILOCIN is the chemical that makes you trip, and it is NOT a poison. Like most people said on here, its basically impossible to overdose on mushrooms. You would be throwing up from your stomach being packed too full of mushrooms before you could ever eat enough to do any physical damage.
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chuck_lanuck
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Re: Mushroom over dose? [Re: day_tripper]
#5396149 - 03/13/06 06:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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a resounding "NO"!
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LaughingGym
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Re: Mushroom over dose? [Re: day_tripper]
#5396158 - 03/13/06 06:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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HELL NO. It's a simple fact you cannot die of overdose on mushrooms. There may be RELATED deaths such as driving while under the influence or doing something stupid like thinking you're super man and deciding you can fly and jump off a building. Otherwise you simply can't OD on magic mushrooms. I swear these people subscribe to a magic mushroom forum site yet they're over here slandering poor mushie.
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Damn
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Re: Mushroom over dose? [Re: LaughingGym]
#5397127 - 03/13/06 11:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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ive never heard of a physical OD, but its definatly possible to psychologicaly overdose. when you've reach the edge and fallen in you'll understand! be careful. there alot more powerful than you think!
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StickyWater
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Re: Mushroom over dose? [Re: Damn]
#5397190 - 03/13/06 11:16 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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You do bring up a good point there, it is very easy to psychologically overdose on shrooms. I've talked to many people who refuse to do shrooms because they figured they were "hardcore" and took a dose way too high for them, got scared shitless and never took psychedelics again... Physically though the only way I could see someone overdosing is by extracting an insanely large amount (and I mean insanely large) into a concentrated solution and injecting it into their bloodstream... Otherwise I just couldn't imagine fitting that many mushrooms in your stomache...
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indica


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Re: Mushroom over dose? [Re: StickyWater]
#5397209 - 03/13/06 11:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've fallen over the edge. I understand, but the only way to bring yourself out of it is to ride it until you wake up and find that 'they' decided to 'give you another chance'. "you've learnt your lesson... now go forth and prosper!"
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Veter
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Re: Mushroom over dose? [Re: indica]
#5397426 - 03/14/06 12:23 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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The LD50 (or the point at which 50% of subjects die from the dose) is EXTREMELY high for psilocybe cubensis mushrooms. It is so high, in fact, that you would nearly have to eat your WEIGHT in shrooms to die. This act is so close to being impossible that its not worth even considering. You'd start to puke before you got to the LD50, and then on top of that, you'd be tripping your ever-living balls off...probably to the point that you'd be on the floor unable to get yourself to eat more.
So, yes, you can overdose on shrooms. However, you can overdose on ANYTHING. That includes water (through hyponutremia), and it will kill you faster and easier than shrooms, amazingly.
Also, your brain will NOT bleed from shrooms...that is simply not an effect of psilocybin. In fact, I don't believe that is an effect of anything that exists, aside from slamming your head into something...but I think that goes without saying.
However, this does NOT mean that you should be careless with your dose of mushrooms. You might actually find that a physical overdose MAY be better than a mental overdose. As in, dosing so many mushrooms that the effects overpower you and you put yourself in a state that scares the hell out of you like youve never had the hell scared out of you.
Other than that, be responsible, stay educated, and have fun.
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Re: Mushroom over dose? [Re: Veter]
#5398276 - 03/14/06 09:25 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Many people attriubute a bad trip to being sick or dying. I know when I got to level 5 for a brief 5 minutes I thought I was dying but some cold water from the sink brought the world back to me. Don't worry about an OD, it ain't gonna happen so go into your trip with a sound mind and prepare for an amazing day
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Re: Mushroom over dose? [Re: Newbie]
#5400064 - 03/14/06 05:12 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oh yeah, it happened to me too. I thought I was ginna die. Then I went to pee. Then I felt more alive then ever. So.... mushrooms really give you everything, even a quick view on the death. But still it's amazing.
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