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mycodetour
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BRF/Verm jars.. with a twist
#5368184 - 03/05/06 06:21 PM (18 years, 28 days ago) |
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Ever see a pf tek jar run like that?
These jars were shot up on the same day, same syringe, same amount.
The twist?
POO!
If you enjoy doing cakes, you'll enjoy them even more with faster colonization, stronger myc growth.. and potentially bigger fruits.
Try it for yourself.. add some pasturized poo into your pf tek jars, pc, and knock up like usual.
Enjoy
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Re: BRF/Verm jars.. with a twist [Re: mycodetour]
#5368192 - 03/05/06 06:23 PM (18 years, 28 days ago) |
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if we're doin that... why not just straight poo or poo:straw cakes. any benefits to still using the brf & verm?
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mycodetour
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Re: BRF/Verm jars.. with a twist [Re: pcubmycol]
#5368198 - 03/05/06 06:25 PM (18 years, 28 days ago) |
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Well one problem with poo cakes is that they dehydrate faster and do not hold moisture as well as the verm/brf mix would.. this way you are holding more moisture in the cake, as well as having the additional nutes from the poo.
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Re: BRF/Verm jars.. with a twist [Re: pcubmycol]
#5368200 - 03/05/06 06:26 PM (18 years, 28 days ago) |
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Wow..nice pictures!
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Re: BRF/Verm jars.. with a twist [Re: Delinquentes]
#5368222 - 03/05/06 06:31 PM (18 years, 28 days ago) |
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Why not just poo and vermiculite? Holds water and much better nutes than BRF.
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Re: BRF/Verm jars.. with a twist [Re: Delinquentes]
#5368224 - 03/05/06 06:31 PM (18 years, 28 days ago) |
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then it would seem as if the brf isn't needed.. Verm is the great moisture holder. and poo produces much more potent muchies than brf due to the high presence of nitrogen. using a dunk n roll tek would beneficial too im sure.
you said the two jars were innoced the same day... how long have the jars colonized from the point of inoculation in those pics?
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mycodetour
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Re: BRF/Verm jars.. with a twist [Re: Atheist]
#5368228 - 03/05/06 06:33 PM (18 years, 28 days ago) |
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I have straight poo cakes as well however, they seem to not grow as solid. I will post pictures of what those look like as well.
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Re: BRF/Verm jars.. with a twist [Re: mycodetour]
#5368240 - 03/05/06 06:36 PM (18 years, 28 days ago) |
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Did you case them or cake them
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Re: BRF/Verm jars.. with a twist [Re: mycodetour]
#5368247 - 03/05/06 06:38 PM (18 years, 28 days ago) |
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that would be nice. I have not gotten into the idea off poo cakes yet although ive seen people messin around with them for about 6-8mos now. It'd be nice to collaborate all you expierimenters and get some good info put together...
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mycodetour
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Re: BRF/Verm jars.. with a twist [Re: pcubmycol]
#5368262 - 03/05/06 06:44 PM (18 years, 28 days ago) |
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These jars are straight poo and a little verm, spawned with rye berries.
A tester jar of cracked corn.. this is 10 days after inoculation
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mycodetour
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Re: BRF/Verm jars.. with a twist [Re: Atheist]
#5368269 - 03/05/06 06:46 PM (18 years, 28 days ago) |
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>Did you case them or cake them
I have one cake sitting in my FC right now, the rest of them I am waiting until they colonize further as I think I birthed it too soon. I have like 12 or so of these 1/2 pint poo cakes and 2 pint poo cakes. Some will be fruited as cakes, others will be turned into casings.
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mycodetour
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Re: BRF/Verm jars.. with a twist [Re: mycodetour]
#5368275 - 03/05/06 06:49 PM (18 years, 28 days ago) |
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> Why not just poo and vermiculite? Holds water and much better nutes than BRF. > then it would seem as if the brf isn't needed.. Verm is the great moisture holder
As it was my first experiment, I wanted to keep it as close to the PF Tek as I could, with the addition of Poo.
It works with no verm and brf just as well, but I like how solid the cake is with verm and brf.. and whats so bad about brf, why not add a few nutes along with the poo?
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mycodetour
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Re: BRF/Verm jars.. with a twist [Re: pcubmycol]
#5368283 - 03/05/06 06:51 PM (18 years, 28 days ago) |
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> you said the two jars were innoced the same day... how long have the jars colonized from the point of inoculation in those pics?
These jars were inoculated via MS syringe on 2/25 using only two inoculation points with 1cc total
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Re: BRF/Verm jars.. with a twist [Re: mycodetour]
#5368356 - 03/05/06 07:16 PM (18 years, 28 days ago) |
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sorry for the newb question, are there any teks on poo cakes?
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mycodetour
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Re: BRF/Verm jars.. with a twist [Re: Robert95z]
#5368364 - 03/05/06 07:19 PM (18 years, 28 days ago) |
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Not that I know of which is why I am considering making a pictorial tek for the method I use. I'm still kind of testing different methods so I don't want to write one up yet. It's fairly simple however.
One way: Get prepasturized poo mix it with some verm, spawn it, or inoculate it and incubate.
Another way: Follow the PF Tek, add 50% prepasturized poo, PC, inoculate, incubate
Im sure there are other methods as well but these are the two I have had success with.
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Re: BRF/Verm jars.. with a twist [Re: mycodetour]
#5368389 - 03/05/06 07:28 PM (18 years, 27 days ago) |
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Quote:
mycodetour said: I have straight poo cakes as well however, they seem to not grow as solid. I will post pictures of what those look like as well.
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mycodetour said:
These jars are straight poo and a little verm, spawned with rye berries.
A tester jar of cracked corn.. this is 10 days after inoculation
I'm just a little confused on your procedure here. Did you knock up any of the strait poo jars with an MS injection or did you spawn to the strait poo jars.
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mycodetour
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Re: BRF/Verm jars.. with a twist [Re: musher_420]
#5368415 - 03/05/06 07:35 PM (18 years, 27 days ago) |
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The first jar was poo/brf/verm, second jar was regular pf tek. These jars were pressure cooked and inoculated using the same MS syringe on 2/25
These jars are hpoo and a small amount of verm spawned with rye berries, no pressure cooking involved. Date: unknown
and I just took a picture of this for fun. This is a tester jar of cracked corn that was inoculated 10 days ago with a MS syringe.
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mycodetour
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Re: BRF/Verm jars.. with a twist [Re: mycodetour]
#5368733 - 03/05/06 09:34 PM (18 years, 27 days ago) |
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Cracked corn is by far the fastest substrate that I have ever colonized.. its crazy to see hourly growth
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Re: BRF/Verm jars.. with a twist [Re: mycodetour]
#5394363 - 03/13/06 05:22 AM (18 years, 20 days ago) |
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With this method would it really be neccessary to use prepasturized poo? Since you would be PC'ing it anyway, it would make pasteurization pointless right? Cuz i'm not a big fan of making poo tea in a pillow case and camping cooler. Couldn't I just as easily get it from a pasture (dry and aged), mix it up then pressure cook, right?
I am going to try this method, cept instead of BRF i'm going to add some WBS, then just fruit from the cakes. Fruiting from a healthy nutrient rich dunked and rolled cake would be the best way for me, since I don't plan on doing a bulk grow.
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