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Onethr
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New and uncertain could someone give me a hand?
#5394108 - 03/13/06 12:56 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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HI all...I am new at this and where I live I can't get hold of most things that I have read in the grow guides here like vermiculite. I went around asking noone knew what it was and I didn't know how to put put in my own language (and it wasn't even in the dictionary), as I have been living in aus fro the alst six years and somewhere before that, well you know what I mean the language barrier thinggy. So I went to the local agriculutre depart here we call it krisi here and looked at how they did there mushrooms, and even bought some oyster spawns and am trying my hand at that. But after some requests to my cousins abroad managed to get my have on some P.C. spore namely Argentina and Nepal/Chitwan. Which are at the moment colonizing in the dark coner of my closet. I did mine on wheat grains I didn't know the word of ryea and in the Krisi I saw that most of the spawn produced for farmers there were made from wheat grains. I tried with rice and popcorn but it got nasty pretty quick, and also have some millet handy and don't have an incubator even making on here cost couple of fingers and buying one cost a leg. So that was the reason I went with the closet. And now I have these things handy: 1)A styrofoam BOx 2)Copious amount of dry cow manure 3)Rice straws 4)SOme potting soil 5)Hand-praying thinggy bob 6)A pressure cooker but no gauge and all After searching on the web and here in shroomery for quite a long while I have a general idea of wat needs to be done but I would much appreciate it if some of the experienced ppl here would be me tips and all.
Thankx
Edited by Onethr (03/13/06 01:04 AM)
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Rahz
Alive Again


Registered: 11/10/05
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Re: New and uncertain could someone give me a hand? [Re: Onethr]
#5394135 - 03/13/06 01:07 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Lots of tips to be found by just reading. Do you have specific questions?
Rahz
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doubledutch
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Registered: 07/19/05
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Loc: Puerto Rico
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Re: New and uncertain could someone give me a hand? [Re: Rahz]
#5394164 - 03/13/06 01:20 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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If I had what you had, and wanted to grow mushrooms, I'd wait until the jars were fully colonized before cheese-grating them and mixing them with the poo (smaller you grate the mycelium compound, the more starting points the myc will have to "spawn" or colonize the poo. I'd put this mix in the styrofoam box to colonize in the dark (82ish*F). While this was colonizing, I'd a. realize that I used the styrofoam box and will either need a new fruiting chamber to place my casing(s) or clean the styrofoam box out when I take the colonized poo out to make the casing(s). b. read up on casing your grain with cow poo and get the proper vessel(s) in which to place this casing(s). I'm not sure what rice straws are, but use #5~ (I think you're referring to a rosary?) to divine the strength to follow Rahz' advice and ask specific questions. This post is the equivalent to walking into an extremely large library and asking the librarian or a fellow library visitor to explain what vermiculture is how to go about doing it.
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cappa
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Registered: 02/12/06
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Re: New and uncertain could someone give me a hand? [Re: doubledutch]
#5394220 - 03/13/06 01:52 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Near the top-left of the page their is a button that says "mushroom information". Clickity click. Then 'Growing mushrooms'. Clickity click. Any sub menu will spawn you into more information than you ever imagined.
Then do what I do. Read until your eyes bleed. I find that I get 'near saturation' of blood in my eyes after I PC my brain for 4 hours @ http://www.shroomery.org.
-------------------- Their are 10 types of people. Those that understand binary, and those who don't. ~Cappa.
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Onethr
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Re: New and uncertain could someone give me a hand? [Re: cappa]
#5406757 - 03/16/06 12:10 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey thanks all for your replies and I especially like the idea about the cheese grater but justgot one question Last time I tried with popcorn it started out good with signs of spreading mycelium but later it turned to slush. What I mean to ask is my jars are colonizing well now but there is lots of water droplet on the inside of the jar will does this mean there is too mush moisture and the new mycelia will turn into sluch?...did I hydrate my grains too much?
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gotyerback
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Registered: 09/05/05
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Re: New and uncertain could someone give me a hand? [Re: Onethr]
#5407230 - 03/16/06 07:22 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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This advice is not to discourage you, but to steer you right:
1. Start reading the teks. Then pick one you feel will work for you and print it out. This will help avoid confusion when you think back to all the info you read.
2. When you have a question, use the search function. Then go to the bottom of any post you read and there will be related posts. These are gold, use them.
3. If you plan to really do this, you will need to spend money. A bum pressure cooker with no gauge just sounds like it will trash your kitchen. Thrift stores have almost everything you need for cheap.
4. Not sure what potting soil and a foam box will do for you, I would recommend an old thrift store cooler and look up the heat bomb (aquarium heater in 2 liter bottle). Plant some weed with the potting soil. Put some cold beer in the foam box.
5. You will probably do better with horse manure than cow.
6. I recommend Docs's wbs tek. So simple, almost foolproof. You can get the materials anywhere. Millet works excellent for this tek.
7. This is last, but most important: Start telling everyone you have already told about the shrooms that it bombed and you are giving it up. Begin reading in the Safety and Security forum. Keep this project to yourself and you alone. Arrange your grow area so that someone could walk into the room and never realize it was there.
This is not an easy hobby, so think of the first few attempts as practice and if you get something from it all the better.
Good Luck
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Onethr
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Re: New and uncertain could someone give me a hand? [Re: gotyerback]
#5410792 - 03/16/06 11:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for yer advice gotyerback...fair enough...alrite
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Onethr
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Re: New and uncertain could someone give me a hand? [Re: Onethr]
#5417740 - 03/19/06 12:16 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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On a later note my grains did get phucked and weeed and beer don't sound like a bad idea no more..gonna read for a while...thanks all for your advice..cheers
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