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OfflineGomp
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Psychoactive can?nabis!
    #5391384 - 03/12/06 09:33 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Tetrahydrocannabivarin, also known as tetrahydrocannabivarol, THCV, or THV, is a psychoactive cannabinoid found in minor amounts in the hemp plant Cannabis sativa. It is an analog of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) with the sidechain shortened by two CH2 groups. THCV can be used as a marker compound to differentiate between the consumption of hemp products and synthetic THC (Dronabinol, Marinol).

From: http://www.answers.com/tetrahydrocannabivarin

I just wanted to say..

yeah you can trip on weed..
yeah, one cannot..

..it is depending on the weed, as well!


anyone care to educate me? ;P

THC <-> THCV - THV


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Re: Psychoactive can?nabis! [Re: Gomp]
    #5391399 - 03/12/06 09:43 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

ive tripped on nug bfor, when i tell people they dont believe me, oh well.


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Re: Psychoactive can?nabis! [Re: Hamstercut]
    #5391427 - 03/12/06 09:50 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I've tripped on just weed before also. Full-on psychedelic expierence, sound distortions, animation in pictures, breathing surfaces, etc.


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Re: Psychoactive can?nabis! [Re: kaniz]
    #5391469 - 03/12/06 10:07 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I trip almost every time I smoke. I get oev's and cev's.


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Re: Psychoactive can?nabis! [Re: Christoph teh goat luvr]
    #5391531 - 03/12/06 10:34 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

that's because cannabis is a psychedellic.


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Re: Psychoactive can?nabis! [Re: coda]
    #5391662 - 03/12/06 11:40 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I know, I just find it odd when people say that you cant trip off of weed, or they dismiss peoples 'trips' on it and just think they are making it up.


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Re: Psychoactive can?nabis! [Re: kaniz]
    #5391691 - 03/12/06 11:52 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I will find some good reading for you on the subject of specific cannabis compounds and the effects they have when used singularily, as experienced by sam the skunkman.

If memory serve's he said thcv is not psychoactive.

Although thats one mans experience.

Weed that isnt psychoative? damn dont want to be in that situation!


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Re: Psychoactive can?nabis! [Re: Springs]
    #5391741 - 03/12/06 12:11 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yea man, weed is tottaly a phycadelic. ive tripped off of weed before. ive had slight CEV but no OEV that i know of. sound distorion happens when i smoke a good amount. i also get this time warpy thing that happens. best way to explain this is ill be sitting their and itll happen and its like the last secound got speed up then it goes back to normal. it definitly depends on what you smoke and how much you smoke man.


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Re: Psychoactive can?nabis! [Re: Nirvana7]
    #5391771 - 03/12/06 12:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

ive defiently been trippy on weed.


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Re: Psychoactive can?nabis! [Re: Nirvana7]
    #5391786 - 03/12/06 12:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I truely beleive marijuana to be a drug that will get you as high as you allow it.

Gomp read this thread : http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/3682186


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Re: Psychoactive can?nabis! [Re: Gomp]
    #5391907 - 03/12/06 01:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I recently had some extremely potent brownies.

Visual effects included extreme exaggeration of light sources, and walls that appeared to always be drifting away very slowly.

I don't use the term 'trip' very often... but when I think about the word after having done shrooms and LSA I would say you don't need any drug to trip... sometimes the world can hit you just right. (therefor you can trip on any drug IMHO)


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Re: Psychoactive can?nabis! [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #5391942 - 03/12/06 01:21 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I had a very strong 2D CEV experience with weed. In fact, at first I thought my friends tricked me with salvia, because I never had such a experience with pot/hash before.

Some of them smoked the same weed and got a regular high. So maybe it's more depending on the individual's mind, mood, etc...


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Re: Psychoactive can?nabis! [Re: funnybunny]
    #5392129 - 03/12/06 02:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I'm really sensitive to most psychoactives, and I usually trip on anything more than a gram, or a gram and a half. It's really dependant on the weed though. I think that people disgard any claims of a trip due to the weakness of the trip, I mean obviously being extremely high is nothing compared to dmt or something of that nature, but it's still pretty damn crazy. Just last week my friends and I were running around this abandon grocery store, and laying on the pavement looking up at the sun and the moon. I felt stoned in a totally different way. We never get that stoned, except for like every few saturdays, we'll just rip down an 8th or something. It was pretty amazing just seeing the sun and the moon so close together. When I close my eyes on weed, I see patterns of the whole color spectrum. No shapes or anything too intense.


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Re: Psychoactive can?nabis! [Re: Hix]
    #5392198 - 03/12/06 02:58 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

For me, it depends entirely on set and setting. About once a week, when the weather is nice, I'll go down to the beach where this is a large area of dunes, and lie down there, bubbler in hand. I'll smoke a small bowl, then sit and watch the clouds. I've had some really profound mind-trips, similar to mushrooms (but less intense), and some very interesting visual distortions. Like all psychedelics (well, salvia excluded) for me, I'm not seeing anything that isn't there, but I just see it much, much differently. I was really tripping out watching the cold air front turn into water vapor (clouds) right above my eyes. In addition to that, a lot of things like reflections on the water and the sunset were very intense, and I think that I would consdier this trpping. I also noticed that I felt a very euphoric feeling during those trips, a sort of overwhelming euphoria that seems to come in waves (similar to how MDMA works, although much, much less intense).

That leads me to my question, has anyone else noticed that while they are "tripping" on weed, they feel a sort of euphoria? A sense of well-being that kind of 'rises up' in your chest? I'm sort of hypothesizing that the THCV or THV, or whatever it is that causes cannabis to be more "trippy" than it normally would seem, also causes a low intensity euphoria. Perhaps that's how you'd be able to know (if uncertain as to the origin of your marijuana) if your bud is more prone to causing a trip.


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Re: Psychoactive can?nabis! [Re: Ashland]
    #5392662 - 03/12/06 05:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

man i trip on weed all the time.. hell i trip when im sober


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Re: Psychoactive can?nabis! [Re: leafing]
    #5393014 - 03/12/06 07:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Two nights ago man. My friend was talking about how he used to like rap and what happened to make him start liking rock and I was just sittin there getting into the story and I realize that everything behind him, which I'm not focusing on, is starting to bend and appear as though it's a painting, with a picture of someone pasted on top of it.

I can't wait to try brownies. It should be very nice  :cool: :mushroom2:


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Re: Psychoactive can?nabis! [Re: fazdazzle]
    #5394716 - 03/13/06 10:22 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

it si really simple...

if you get THC.. you do not trip..
if you get THCV <-> THV.. you trip! :smile:


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Re: Psychoactive can?nabis! [Re: Gomp]
    #5394797 - 03/13/06 10:49 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I disagree, I think its very possible to trip with no thcv, Im not saying it doesnt have a trippy effect, or doesnt contribute. The fact is many strains of mj have little to no thcv, and they still are very psychoactive.

Beside's theres no way for you too know if the pot you are smoking has thcv in it, unless your more into mj than you let on?

It seems to me like alot of times people like to simplify mj chemistry relating to activness. Theres just so many factors that work together to bring about the effects, its surly not just thc% or thcv% although they would be a contributing factor.

I find outdoor mj is more psychoactive than indoor, the power and effects of the sun on a plant could never be duplicated.


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Re: Psychoactive can?nabis! [Re: Springs]
    #5395296 - 03/13/06 01:54 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

after doing a lot of lsa, a week later i had a pretty strong flashback while smoking weed. long tracers even


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Re: Psychoactive can?nabis! [Re: SkzeR]
    #5396414 - 03/13/06 07:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I bet everyone on here who has 'tripped' on Cannabis has also tripped on mushrooms/LSD several or more times and subsequently also smoked pot during one or more of those said occasions.

Think... nostalgia.


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