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Re: Not allowed to attend a gathering? [Re: Banez]
    #5392367 - 03/12/06 03:58 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

OHS,

I can see that your frustrated...

but why are you posting this in the WAF forum?

eh?


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Re: Not allowed to attend a gathering? [Re: Roadkill]
    #5392616 - 03/12/06 05:12 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Roadkill said:
OHS,

I can see that your frustrated...

but why are you posting this in the WAF forum?

eh?




Exactly...this gathering is NOT an "official" Shroomery event. It is a gathering of people and the people who organize it simply get to decide who they want to invite and who they don't want to invite. The event isn't Shroomery-sponsored, so there's no reason to plead to anyone about it in this forum.


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Re: Not allowed to attend a gathering? [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5392809 - 03/12/06 05:59 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

well i was figuring he was a moderator.. and he wasnt checking the gathering forum, so i thought i would put it here and allow for others to voice their opinions..

apparently im old enough to go to war. (whether u agree with it or not) and fight for our country but not old enough to attend a camp out.. awesome

i do have the support of several other members attending now, so hopefully he will change his mind


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Re: Not allowed to attend a gathering? [Re: Banez]
    #5393000 - 03/12/06 07:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

What are you trying to accomplish here? Are you trying to force shroomeydan to invite you to his house by trying to make him look bad? It's his party, he's nice enough to open his home to a small group of people, this is in bad taste OHS. You say you're old enough to go to war? Then take it like a man, because a lot of shit does not go your way in life.


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Re: Not allowed to attend a gathering? [Re: Banez]
    #5393391 - 03/12/06 09:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

OHS, I am drunk right now, and in the mood to be brutally honest.

Why do you want to force your way into a place where a number of people have expressed their uncomfortability with your presence? Don't you think that those who are shaded out by you, for WHATEVER reason, are only FURTHER shaded out and unappetized by the idea of your presence at a gathering by your unrelenting efforts to stir up drama because you aren't welcome to attend?

All I'm saying is, you are VERY new to the Shroomery. If I were you, I would try my hardest to understand people's feelings here. For a while when you first came to the Shroomery, many members suspected you were below eighteen, making you a LIABILITY, a LEGAL RISK. Do you understand that this isn't an issue of "we don't like you, don't come"? It's an issue of "frankly, I want to feel comfortable on my vacation, and this kid, well, he makes me shaded out."

Your screenname is OHSBrave06 because you go to a high school whose mascots are the braves and you graduate in 06, you are a high school student. That makes certain people uncomfortable. End of story.


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Re: Not allowed to attend a gathering? [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5394315 - 03/13/06 04:01 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

That is kind of harsh there.

I am unaware that "a number of people have expressed their uncomfortability" with him being there. Are there others that didn't feel he was welcome or something?
I have no problem with it personally - but I'm not the one setting up the gathering.
I understand where shroomydan is coming from in a way and have to respect his opinion as he has gone out of the way to plan this gathering himself.

OHS seems like a nice enough person though.
Last night in the pub I was talking with him in some posts and the subject of gatherings came up. I told him I was going to that gathering, and gave him a link.

The main idea behind the gathering is mushroom hunting.. As it seems most of the people attending will some of us regular posters from mushroom hunting. It is also going to be help at a park with camp sites from what I understand, not a house.


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Re: Not allowed to attend a gathering? [Re: eris]
    #5394379 - 03/13/06 06:02 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

actually u guys brought up a point i was thinking about this morning.. now that there is such a conflict.. it will be uncomfortable, which is why i have decided it wouldnt be right for me to go

as for gdman, shroomerydan isnt opening up his "home".. the gathering is at a local campground.. and its hardly a "party" its a bunch of us paying to rent a camp site to go mushroom hunting

but like pointed out.. now that it has become an issue id just feel uncomfortable attending, no matter how many people actually wanted to see me there.

maybe there will be some more gatherings in this area once i return from basic


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Re: Not allowed to attend a gathering? [Re: Banez]
    #5394641 - 03/13/06 09:45 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Good call, guy. You definitely shouldn't force your presence on anyone.

Now, why in the world is this thread not locked?


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Re: Not allowed to attend a gathering? [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #5394696 - 03/13/06 10:13 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Because not everyone is done talking.

I think if they're just camping and mushroom huntin', the sensible age limit should be 18. What does the fact that someone is in high school have to do with anything?

It's shroomydan's call, but I think that was pretty rude.


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Re: Not allowed to attend a gathering? [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5394711 - 03/13/06 10:19 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Microcosmatrix said:
Because not everyone is done talking.

I think if they're just camping and mushroom huntin', the sensible age limit should be 18. What does the fact that someone is in high school have to do with anything?

It's shroomydan's call, but I think that was pretty rude.




thank you.. another person who understands my position.. but then again at this point it doesnt matter.. i wouldnt want to attend an event i forcefully got into.. ill just patiently wait for something else to come up in my area


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Re: Not allowed to attend a gathering? [Re: Banez]
    #5394778 - 03/13/06 10:45 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i was about to ask about this earlier, but i didnt bother.

i couldnt understand the logic with high school. would he be better off if he worked at mcdonalds? heh


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Re: Not allowed to attend a gathering? [Re: shriek]
    #5395104 - 03/13/06 12:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I always thought of gathering advertised inside the Gathering Forum as 'open attendance'.  If you post it up for the community to see, read, and become interested in, then it's open for anyone to say "...hey, that sounds cool, I'd like to go"

If you want to organize a private gathering, then do it privately and don't advertise.

One of my favorite aspects of gatherings is the openess of so many different people from different age groups, reigons, political background and race.  :heart:


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Re: Not allowed to attend a gathering? [Re: Banez]
    #5395116 - 03/13/06 12:35 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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OHSBrave06 said:
thank you.. another person who understands my position.. but then again at this point it doesnt matter.. i wouldnt want to attend an event i forcefully got into.. ill just patiently wait for something else to come up in my area




Hey man, it is a shame that this had to pan out the way it did, but I think your final stance on the matter is VERY commendable. The fact that you were able to see it from this angle, in the long run, would be reason enough for me to welcome you with open arms to any future gathering.  :heart:


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Re: Not allowed to attend a gathering? [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #5395200 - 03/13/06 01:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I have written a response to this in the gathering forum.

Can we please take the conversation there so that it is not viewable by unregistered users?


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Re: Not allowed to attend a gathering? [Re: shroomydan]
    #5395353 - 03/13/06 02:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

very good point.. id love to continue this little debate.. and without drama from people looking to stir this up further..

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=Forum16&Number=5289473&page=0&fpart=3


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Re: Not allowed to attend a gathering? [Re: Banez]
    #5395361 - 03/13/06 02:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

These are not officially sponsored gatherings, and even if there were, there is no Shroomery Bill of Rights that gives you the right to attend. If the person organizing the gathering doesn't think you should be there, then that's up to them I guess.


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Re: Not allowed to attend a gathering? [Re: adrug]
    #5395373 - 03/13/06 02:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

actually from a technical point, they are on a public campground.. if i felt like going i could go down there and set-up my tent..

but my attendence is no longer questionable.. i dont want to attend now with all the drama I have caused.. i should have handled it differently.. but i felt discriminated against and reached out for support when it happened


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Re: Not allowed to attend a gathering? [Re: Banez]
    #5395658 - 03/13/06 03:42 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

OHS, you're doing good in letting it just slide off you instead of fghting it. I have little doubt that there would be another gathering some time from now and you'd be welcome there.

This just went awkward, and it needs some time.

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the gathering is at a local campground.. and its hardly a "party" its a bunch of us paying to rent a camp site to go mushroom hunting




Ah, this is where you're wrong. A Shroomery gathering is a meeting of spirits, and mushroom hunting will be involved too. You're a member for only six months. Pay attention to the Shroomery vibe and you'll see it would be more than a "bunch of guys". Perhaps this might have been part of Shroomydan's refusal.

A good wine that isnt aged is hardly a pleasure to drink. Give it time.


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Re: Not allowed to attend a gathering? [Re: Banez]
    #5395871 - 03/13/06 04:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I agree with Robots post 100%.

Quote:

OHSBrave06 said:
very good point.. id love to continue this little debate.. and without drama from people looking to stir this up further..

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=Forum16&Number=5289473&page=0&fpart=3




What more is there to debate on the topic? You obviously make the person holding the gathering paranoid. Relentlessly pursuing this only gives more reason for paranoia imho..


Furthermore:

Quote:

OHSBrave06 said:
maybe there will be some more gatherings in this area once i return from basic




Who's stopping you from organizing your own gathering at the same campground on a seperate weekend from shroomydans? I'm sure the "several other members" who are comfortable with you would be more than happy to attend, right?


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Re: Not allowed to attend a gathering? [Re: Banez]
    #5396042 - 03/13/06 05:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

OHSBrave06 said:
actually from a technical point, they are on a public campground.. if i felt like going i could go down there and set-up my tent..






lol, now that would be creepy.....funny, but creepy.


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