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OfflineHrethic
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Weird thing to put about a plant...
    #5390449 - 03/11/06 09:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

"On both mediums it is suggested to flower (12 hour light) the White Widow for 8 weeks, but 10 weeks will really give you the crystals you are after. We suggest the final 2 weeks of the flowering cycle to turn the lights off altogether - or at least down to 8 hours. This keeps the flowers from regrowth and stresses the plant into giving up its last drop of goodness as crystal to protect the flower...try it!"


Sooo... at first when i read this i thought it was bullshit. But then i figured no, they wouldn't put that if they hadn't first tried it. This is from Nirvana Seeds about their White Widow.

But don't plants need light to grow? Including crystals? Or even herms for that matter, isn't light one of the key factors in growth of a plant? Wouldn't putting it in complete darkness make it think the earth had gone apocalyptic and just make it die?

Anyone ever try this? With any strain? Just seems a little too far out of the realm of possibility, even for MJ.


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Re: Weird thing to put about a plant... [Re: Hrethic]
    #5390838 - 03/12/06 01:16 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Sounds entirely possible to me, I've heard lots of people say things about stressing plants with weird light cycles to get more active chemicals.


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Re: Weird thing to put about a plant... [Re: Hrethic]
    #5390870 - 03/12/06 01:40 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

hmm, thats an interesting idea. it could well work. what are our main instincts, to survive and to reproduce.
so will it use its last bit of energy to stay alive alittle bit longer? or to but out the last drop of trichomes in hopes of getting some pollen?
being in the state of trichome production, its already set to making trichomes, and might jsut follow that path.

:shrug: no idea man, worth lookin into it is.
and if you try it out, tell us!


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Re: Weird thing to put about a plant... [Re: eligal]
    #5392379 - 03/12/06 04:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Plants are still active during nighttime.
However, they are not using the same amounts of carbon dioxide.

There is a propagation method called etioliation. Etiolation is basically growth in the dark, which tends to be softer tissue and thus ideal for taking cuttings.

Plants are still alive when the lights go off and Rosenthal (among others) has theorized that there is light-sensitive chemical which initiates flowering (in Marijuana at least) when a certain amount of uninterrupted darkness ensues...

The plant has energy reserves sort of 'stored' so that if need be, the plant can use this said energy.
This is why "cloning" works, stored energy which, hopefully, will generate roots.

The only thing that sounds strange about putting the plants in complete darkness the last days of flowering (actually a relatively common procedure) would be the length they recommend, in days, to do it for. 2 Weeks of no light? Pssh. Dramatically decreasing the light output makes sense, but one should leave some form of photogenic energy for the plants to make use of... if you really wanted to send her home perhaps an HPS would be the most effective light for this stage, as accordingly the spectrums produced resemble the Sun's output near Autumn... more so than other available lights.


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Re: Weird thing to put about a plant... [Re: Herbus]
    #5400917 - 03/14/06 08:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

So have you tried this herbus? Do you know of anyone that's gone even three full days in darkness at the very end and seen a noticeable improvement on the trichomes?


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Re: Weird thing to put about a plant... [Re: Hrethic]
    #5400951 - 03/14/06 08:35 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Actually I take back what I said about it being 'common procedure.'

I have left plants in the darkness for like 2 days, I couldn't distinguish any extra trichome content as a result...


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Re: Weird thing to put about a plant... [Re: Hrethic]
    #5401137 - 03/14/06 09:30 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

lol damn. I was hoping you were gonna say "hell yeah, they got all snowed over". It might even be a strain dependent thing, like topping for yield and the like. Might have to be giving it a try here in the future...


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Re: Weird thing to put about a plant... [Re: Hrethic]
    #5402015 - 03/15/06 02:03 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I would definitely say that species and to a lesser degree strain will change the outcome...

I have read about doing this for Snow White which, consequently, has parentage in White Widow... soooo


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Re: Weird thing to put about a plant... [Re: Herbus]
    #5402076 - 03/15/06 02:58 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

well before the US government closed down OG, you could read about tons of people experimenting with different light cycles. The plants definately grow at night. They get all soft and changes colors.


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Re: Weird thing to put about a plant... [Re: Demonichildren]
    #5405774 - 03/15/06 08:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Godfriggilyfuggintelefunkinchamplaintremendous i wish overgrow was still around... damn it.


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Re: Weird thing to put about a plant... [Re: Hrethic]
    #5405903 - 03/15/06 09:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

there ARE other web sites out there that are filled with loads of OG refugees... you just have to search a little...


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Re: Weird thing to put about a plant... [Re: Hrethic]
    #5408519 - 03/16/06 01:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

This is the grow method i currently use. And it works, crystals get bigger and with higher THC content, more dense flowers, but slower flower growth. also plants ripen (hairs turn from white to orange) quicker during shorter 'day hours'.
This is because plant thinks winter is coming so rippens so seeds will be ready. Obviuosly if you remembered to get rid of all your males, you will get seed casings full of THC resin, not seeds (sensimillia).

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Re: Weird thing to put about a plant... [Re: DrJ]
    #5420264 - 03/19/06 08:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yes, you can have the last period completely dark for more crystals. another thing, when you hang up your plants to dry it should be dark for the same reasons, crystals will form and mature for some while after the plant is hanged up to dry, as long as it has water to bind sugar


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Re: Weird thing to put about a plant... [Re: giz]
    #5420350 - 03/19/06 09:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

All true and the longer you take to dry them the better they smoke too(probably for the same reasons giz gave). Cool, dark and dry is whats needed. They should only be cured once they're so dry the stem snaps.


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Re: Weird thing to put about a plant... [Re: DrJ]
    #5420887 - 03/19/06 11:41 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

So DrJ, a few questions. You say you use this method? You sound like you're doing it the entire period of flowering, not just the last. How long are your plants "days"? What strains are there? Have you noticed any specific strains not enjoying the shortened days?

You say flower growth is slowed, yet plants ripen faster.. how do you mean? The time for them to swell and collect resin is shortened? How long do your plants usually go under this regimen?


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