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#5388411 - 03/11/06 07:28 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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that doesnt look bad for your first time, I would suggest cloning one of those shrooms that can help pinsets..
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Re: Pan Cyans,Aussie with *pics* [Re: CaptainKirk]
#5388681 - 03/11/06 09:51 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey CaptK, what did you use for an FC?
I've been waiting to try those pans you sent because I'm not too sure how they'd do in a double tub. I'm thinking about modifying a tub with a fan for greater FAE during fruiting.
Nice pics! You did better then me on my first go around. I remember only getting 2 pins.
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Re: Pan Cyans,Aussie with *pics* [Re: CaptainKirk]
#5388689 - 03/11/06 09:54 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's not too bad for your first try. Most folks don't even get a pin with pan cyans! Just keep working on it. Pan Cyans need a lot of careful attention to detail (or luck) to get great pin sets, but it can be done. I got sort of lucky my first time, but then I failed several. Now I know what they really need, and it isn't quite like cubensis.
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Re: Pan Cyans,Aussie with *pics* [Re: CaptainKirk]
#5388700 - 03/11/06 09:58 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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And by the way, CaptainKirk, you did get it right about the casing requiring incubation. I recommend a two to three day incubation period for Pan Cyans. Overlay is not nearly as big of a deal with them as cubensis. And in a chamber with less fresh unfiltered air and running over 95% RH, you really absolutely MUST have some great casing colonization, overlaid or otherwise, to protect the casing from mold. You'll get mold every time if you don't incubate it under those conditions. You can effectively prevent mold entirely if you run around 90% RH and provide more fresh air exchange. Under those ideals, the casing probably won't mold even if it isn't colonized.
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Re: Pan Cyans,Aussie with *pics* [Re: Blue Helix]
#5388726 - 03/11/06 10:08 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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thanks guys...i kinda went in hap hazard,which as you both know can lead to shitty results..i grow all my cubes in doubletubs,but threw this in a PMP ....i could of done better with some solid planning..let that be a lesson to you peeps...lol
ive now got several large spawn bags going with this strain and pan viets...i just picked a few of the more mature ones,so i guess maybe ill trip tonight..after reading everyones trip reports ,i get noided..lmao how much wet should i eat
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Re: Pan Cyans,Aussie with *pics* [Re: CaptainKirk]
#5388733 - 03/11/06 10:12 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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You did a great job with those. The only thing I can see is that the humidity looks too high. Cubes will usually tolerate it but cyans are more sensitive. You need to put it down to 85% after pinning.
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Re: Pan Cyans,Aussie with *pics* [Re: CaptainKirk]
#5388736 - 03/11/06 10:13 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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CaptainKirk, I find those that strain (Ausi) wet about 50% as strong as cubensis dried (maybe a little more). That means I'd eat about 7 grams for a pretty strong trip. If you have a very high tolerance or just like very strong trips (I don't), I'd go up to 10 fresh grams but no more. Some people who have a high tolerance on cubes don't and pan cyans and vice versa. I found the Viets, which are smaller, to be even stronger than that. There seems to be this trend in these that the smaller the fruit of the strain, the stronger. I hear pan cyan cambos are the strongest and probably about the strongest hallucinogenic mushroom per weight that exists.
Edited by Blue Helix (03/11/06 10:20 AM)
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Re: Pan Cyans,Aussie with *pics* [Re: Blue Helix]
#5388744 - 03/11/06 10:21 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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The theory on smaller mushrooms being more potent is absolutely true in my opinion. It seems that the smaller the fruit the higher concentration of psilocybin per gram. I always seem to have to ingest more on larger fruits than smaller to get the same effect due to the increase in mushroom tissue.
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Re: Pan Cyans,Aussie with *pics* [Re: Wronguy]
#5388754 - 03/11/06 10:25 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I hear pan cyan cambodginiensis are so tiny that when dried, their stem looks like a sewing needle! I have seen pictures of them growing and they do look very tiny. (I changed this post it did say cambodians by mistake). Here are those pictures of the cambos:
 
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Re: Pan Cyans,Aussie with *pics* [Re: Blue Helix]
#5388781 - 03/11/06 10:40 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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those are some small ones,bet they will kick your ass though did you eat any of those Helix?
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Re: Pan Cyans,Aussie with *pics* [Re: CaptainKirk]
#5388790 - 03/11/06 10:48 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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No, I didn't eat them. I can tell you this much, though, I wouldn't start with more than 0.3 grams dried of something that looks like that. A Pan Cyan that small is probably ridiculously strong. No matter the species, when you work with Pan Cyans dried, you should be thinking in terms of 0.1 grams, not grams. You could be fine on a half gram and end up in ER on 1.5 grams, the dosage is not linear with respect to the strength of the experience, not for these and not for any mushroom.
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Re: Pan Cyans,Aussie with *pics* [Re: Blue Helix]
#5388890 - 03/11/06 11:32 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think it looks pretty good CK. I think your haphazzard is more precise than my meticulous.
Does anyone know how the potency of pans compares with azurescens?
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Re: Pan Cyans,Aussie with *pics* [Re: CaptainKirk]
#5389448 - 03/11/06 03:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Pans?????
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Re: Pan Cyans,Aussie with *pics* [Re: ralphster44]
#5389524 - 03/11/06 03:26 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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wow, those ARE itty bitty......they are soooo cute. lol
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Re: Pan Cyans,Aussie with *pics* [Re: ralphster44]
#5389575 - 03/11/06 03:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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As in panaeolus. More specifically panaeolus cambodginiesis.
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Re: Pan Cyans,Aussie with *pics* [Re: Gopal]
#5391577 - 03/12/06 10:57 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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well ,i tripped on these last night and i must say Pans Rock ...after picking some mature ones i threw them in the nesco,they were dry by last night, i only did .7 ...but i really liked the trip,Helix they are VERY SPEEDY as you said...my legs trembled for a while ,until i peaked,then it was bliss this morning i went downand picked the rest of my first flush..after picking 17.3 grmas wet yesterday,this is what the casing looked like
a bit closer
i just want to say i really enjoyed these little guys..i love the trip ,i think better than cubies
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Re: Pan Cyans,Aussie with *pics* [Re: CaptainKirk]
#5391597 - 03/12/06 11:06 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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i get to try my cyans out for the first time next weekend, glad you enjoyed your trip, i cant wait for mine
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Re: Pan Cyans,Aussie with *pics* [Re: coda]
#5391638 - 03/12/06 11:27 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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i hope you enjoy them Coda.. the final wieght from first flush was 62.3 gms wet....so maybe 5 -6 dry..not much,but ill trip a few times on it  this was from this morning this was from yestaerday
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Re: Pan Cyans,Aussie with *pics* [Re: CaptainKirk]
#5391670 - 03/12/06 11:42 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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after i get a few more successful cube grows, i wanna try pan cyans!
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Re: Pan Cyans,Aussie with *pics* [Re: rDr4g0n]
#5391914 - 03/12/06 01:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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hey man, 5-6 grams dry in one flush is an impressive yield. I yielded 6 grms total from about 4 flushes! Keep that sucka going, you can definitely pull another few grams off of it. 10 gms of cyans should last you a long while, that's about 20 doses
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Re: Pan Cyans,Aussie with *pics* [Re: Blue Helix]
#16518010 - 07/12/12 01:44 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sorry to bump an old post but I'm curious about that mention of 90% RH and fresh air exchange. You've also recommended a 95%+ RH and I'm curious to know if you've noticed more reliability in getting pans to fruit with one RH or another. What do you think about fluctuating humidity from 88 to 92/93 with lots of fresh air exchange and an occasional jump to like 97 to a hundred? Is 88 too low?
And just, you know, in addition I'd like to state that to date I have no experience growing Copelandia. But I've read a bunch and I appreciate your contributions Bluehelix.
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