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OfflineGraveReaper0
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I got a giant terrarium, how should I grow.
    #5387223 - 03/10/06 08:13 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Well folks. I've been enjoying mycology for about 6 months now, and decided to make it my hobby. So, I built a 8x10 terrarium out of some 1 1/2" PVC pipe and plastic sheeting. For humidity I bought 2 ultrasonic cool mist humidifiers which I plan on running inside for most of the day. The light will be provided by T8 tubes. Im checking the mail for my 6 syringes from SporeSource. Today went out and bought a 40lb bag of wild bird seed mix to use as spawn (I believe its called WBS). Now since I got a lotta space, I would like to make the most out of it, but not sure how. So far here's my idea.
Prepare the WBS 1 pint jars and wait for full colonization. Then I would case them all in my 60/40 verm/coco-coir with added crushed oyster shells and blood meal. So I should have shelves full of casings. Is that a good idea, bad idea? Any suggestions, tips, criticism welcome.


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InvisibleJaeger
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Re: I got a giant terrarium, how should I grow. [Re: GraveReaper0]
    #5387236 - 03/10/06 08:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Do quarts of WBS first of all :smile:
Look into Liquid Cultures, LC.
Spawn to poo!!!!!!
Then colonize and case :wink:

Lots of good info!
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5078282/an/0/page/0


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Re: I got a giant terrarium, how should I grow. [Re: Jaeger]
    #5387243 - 03/10/06 08:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Not doing poo, just not dealing wit crap period. :p
Maybe later on when I have more resources available, but for now I want to stick to coco and verm..


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Re: I got a giant terrarium, how should I grow. [Re: GraveReaper0]
    #5387251 - 03/10/06 08:23 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

coir and verm are still used with poo, if you are going to use grain to fruit off of, i wouldnt suggest wbs, it will work but not as well as rye, Wbs is an awesome and cheap way to make spawn...


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Re: I got a giant terrarium, how should I grow. [Re: MindsEye]
    #5387284 - 03/10/06 08:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Yea for now Im sticking to WBS. Damn it I want to use poo now. Can poo be substituted by coir? Its got a crapload of nutes, and I can add a bit o blood meal for a higher potency.

And does anyone know where I could get the big blocks of coir? Everywhere I go they only have the small ones..


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Re: I got a giant terrarium, how should I grow. [Re: GraveReaper0]
    #5387292 - 03/10/06 08:40 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

No coir cannot be used instead of poo, it may be loaded with nutes but its the wrong ones, coir is designed to be a casing layer
A casing layer is a non nutritious layer that builds a micro climate for the fungus
If your having trouble finding poo there are 3 sponsors that sell it
tenn stud
myco shack
and myco supply

they will also have big blocks of coir.


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Re: I got a giant terrarium, how should I grow. [Re: MindsEye]
    #5387298 - 03/10/06 08:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Actually, coir can be used as a substrate!
Use the search link above and search for coir substrate and in the username box put agar.
It is just very expensive to use as a substrate :smile:
Check craigslist.org (click your city) and I bet you can search and find free poo around you!


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Re: I got a giant terrarium, how should I grow. [Re: Jaeger]
    #5387308 - 03/10/06 08:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

this is what hes talking about
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post5347993

as you can see it can be used but it has less than optimum results, i mean you could use straight dirt from your yard, but is it somthing you want to waste your time on?


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Re: I got a giant terrarium, how should I grow. [Re: GraveReaper0]
    #5387386 - 03/10/06 09:23 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

poo is so easy i dont know why people write it off.. there is nothing hard about it.. from the sounds of the size of your Fruiting Chamber it would be difficult to fill it up using WBS... IMO spawning to poo is WAY easier than producing lots of jars of WBS... each jar can become 4 times as much substrate as it was and your shrooms will be as potent as anybody should need them to be.
WBS has a tedency to dry out while poo hold moisture very well... horse poo is easy to find even in (sub)urban areas, as long as its been leached out and pasteurizing a big pillowcase full of poo is way easier than soaking, simmering, filling jars with WBS and PCing it.
if you're devoted to your hobby and you want to make the most out of it, poo is a no brainer. give it a shot once and you'll never fruit off WBS alone again.

sorry but its what i preach... screw pf tek screw casing WBS... get some damn poo man!!!!!


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Re: I got a giant terrarium, how should I grow. [Re: buggers]
    #5398143 - 03/14/06 08:26 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Alright, alright, I'll get some horse crap. :laugh:
But I live nowhere near a farm, where shoul I look for it. DO garden centers bag it up and sell it?

EDIT: Alright, just got done searching for some poo poo, and I found both cow and horse manuer. BUT, the horse manuer is 26 miles from my house, while the cow manuer is only 1 mile. So is the horse crap worth the drive?


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Re: I got a giant terrarium, how should I grow. [Re: GraveReaper0]
    #5398174 - 03/14/06 08:43 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

No don't buy poo. Look in the phone books for stables. Go pick some weathered nuggets. Tell them you need the poo for your roses. No problem. Most places will give you all you want. ENJOY the :poop:!


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Re: I got a giant terrarium, how should I grow. [Re: kanpan]
    #5398189 - 03/14/06 08:48 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Nah I'll pay for my crap... :laugh:

Alright, just got done searching for some poo poo, and I found both cow and horse manuer. BUT, the horse manuer is 26 miles from my house, while the cow manuer is only 1 mile. So is the horse crap worth the drive?


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Re: I got a giant terrarium, how should I grow. [Re: GraveReaper0]
    #5398209 - 03/14/06 09:01 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

the H-poo is worth the drive it is such a better consistancy than cow, remember get nuggets not soil looking manure.


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Re: I got a giant terrarium, how should I grow. [Re: MindsEye]
    #5398466 - 03/14/06 10:13 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

whats the reasoning behind getting nuggets, not soil looking manure? soil looking manure works great!


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Re: I got a giant terrarium, how should I grow. [Re: fungiamongi2]
    #5398504 - 03/14/06 10:27 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

the texture of it, nuggets are almost like straw, soil stuff compacts easier and closes pathways for mycelium to travel.


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Re: I got a giant terrarium, how should I grow. [Re: GraveReaper0]
    #5398989 - 03/14/06 12:23 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yeah the horse poo is worth the drive...

you want aged horse poo...nuggets or muffins.



a great post for you to read...
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agar said:


About 90 lbs of FREE h/poo.

About 1500 lbs of shredded h/poo.

Good dry well weathered h/poo is (IMHO) FAR FAR better than C/poo and/or any C/poo/straw combo.

Only thing that beats h/poo, is custom made cube compost.




The only thing that beats horse poo is "real" Zoo Doo or custom made mushroom compost...IMHO


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