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Re: Work Ethic [Re: lukeboots]
    #5387143 - 03/10/06 07:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

It has nothing to do with morality and idealism. Money (and the barter system) is the best way to go about things.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Cherk]
    #5387145 - 03/10/06 07:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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I'm with you on a few points, but try and live in this world without playing one of the games. for the most part it just doesn't work




You're correct, it doesn't work now. But I can see where one day the entire system will have to be dumped or else we will become extinct.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Redstorm]
    #5387149 - 03/10/06 07:49 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Well, the way Micro explained it, it sounds like he just assumes that if everything is free, there'd be some sort of world peace or something. It's just strictly impossible.

And I agree with you Redstorm. In fact, I really wouldn't question you even if I didn't. I think you know a bit more about this than me. :tongue:


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5387151 - 03/10/06 07:49 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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I'm with you on a few points, but try and live in this world without playing one of the games. for the most part it just doesn't work




You're correct, it doesn't work now. But I can see where one day the entire system will have to be dumped or else we will become extinct.




Not true. You are just making things up to further what you believe.

We have been more or less using the same system for thousands upon thousands of years, and we haven't gone extinct.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: lukeboots]
    #5387156 - 03/10/06 07:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Don't you think it's theoretically possible for humanity to re-invent our living conditions?

We may as well go for it, otherwise we're fucked anyhow.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5387159 - 03/10/06 07:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Humanity doesn't all share the same living conditions.. so.. uh, no? Why would the well-off want to re-invent themselves?


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5387161 - 03/10/06 07:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I'm with ya.  It's ignorance that born us (says the 12 links of dependent origination in buddhism and many other spiritual teachings) and it's ignorance that will kill us.  makes the joke even funnier :heart:


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5387162 - 03/10/06 07:52 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I don't understand how you think valued trade has lessened the human race. Contrary to that, it has pretty much spawned the innovation and progress we have seen since the dawn of man.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Redstorm]
    #5387166 - 03/10/06 07:52 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Smoker For Peace said:
I'm with you on a few points, but try and live in this world without playing one of the games. for the most part it just doesn't work




You're correct, it doesn't work now. But I can see where one day the entire system will have to be dumped or else we will become extinct.




Not true. You are just making things up to further what you believe.

We have been more or less using the same system for thousands upon thousands of years, and we haven't gone extinct.




And we have not had the technology to destroy the planet until the last 50 years or so.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5387171 - 03/10/06 07:54 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Smoker For Peace said:
I'm with you on a few points, but try and live in this world without playing one of the games. for the most part it just doesn't work




You're correct, it doesn't work now. But I can see where one day the entire system will have to be dumped or else we will become extinct.




Not true. You are just making things up to further what you believe.

We have been more or less using the same system for thousands upon thousands of years, and we haven't gone extinct.




And we have not had the technology to destroy the planet until the last 50 years or so.




And this has nothing to do with the means of exchanging goods. The Soviet Union provided had an economy much like you advocate, yet they were in the middle of developing the weapons you speak of.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5387172 - 03/10/06 07:54 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

but then again the technology to save the planet (LSD) came into existence around the same time :yesnod:  should be an interesting rest of existnece :lol:


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Cherk]
    #5387176 - 03/10/06 07:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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I'm with ya.  It's ignorance that born us (says the 12 links of dependent origination in buddhism and many other spiritual teachings) and it's ignorance that will kill us.  makes the joke even funnier :heart:




I wonder if there is a shred of a chance that we could actually save ourselves as a whole human race?

Sometimes it feels like we are pre-doomed. Especially when I hear shit like I have heard in this thread.

Maybe that's the joke, maybe that's why it's funny. :shrug:


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5387184 - 03/10/06 07:58 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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I'm with ya.  It's ignorance that born us (says the 12 links of dependent origination in buddhism and many other spiritual teachings) and it's ignorance that will kill us.  makes the joke even funnier :heart:




I wonder if there is a shred of a chance that we could actually save ourselves as a whole human race?

Sometimes it feels like we are pre-doomed. Especially when I hear shit like I have heard in this thread.




You spout all sorts of nonsense as if you know what you're talking about. What is stopping you from joining one of the shared ownership communities all over the US? I think it's b/c you like luxury. With capitalism, comes luxury.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5387187 - 03/10/06 07:59 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Actually, when I read shit like what you've been saying throughout this whole thread, I feel somewhat doomed too.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5387195 - 03/10/06 08:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I hope that this existence plays out for a long time so that many generations will get to experience it long after we're gone. 

but that kind of thinking doesn't do me any good, all I can do is be here now and love the ones around me (which is getting a little easier to do day by day) 


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Cherk]
    #5387200 - 03/10/06 08:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, we need Chuck Norris to save us, now I know that he could do it.

Till then I'm going to just keep posting  :grin:


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5387201 - 03/10/06 08:04 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Anyone as badass as Chuck Norris would definitely be a Randian free-market capitalist.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Redstorm]
    #5387204 - 03/10/06 08:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Of course, he's a Capatalist imagehead, he saves real Americans on T.V. every day.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Cherk]
    #5387209 - 03/10/06 08:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I'm looking to Nov 2008 for the massive parties to re-establish themselves in a light of pure peace


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5387210 - 03/10/06 08:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

He even has a black sidekick!


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