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safe
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please god someone help me please
#5384465 - 03/10/06 05:25 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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please, im dying for help, i did dmt for the first time on saturday, then 2cb and smoked marijuana that evening.
im sorry im not going to go in depth about the dmt, theres no point, and so you know im telling you the truth, dmt is you, your universe like destroyed, i dont even know,
please, something clicked on saturday, im having trouble even writing this, please, its severe psychosis, please, what help can i get please, i cant even control my breathing rate because i dont know when i need to breath i just force myself, i feel like im dying, im only 16 please, someone help, if its helps to know iv done lsd shrooms mesaclaine ectasy
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safe
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: safe]
#5384467 - 03/10/06 05:29 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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please im not lying, i know i sound like an idiot like im pissing around on your forum, i know i sound like that, i just want to know how to ground myself please,
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: safe]
#5384473 - 03/10/06 05:39 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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First and foremost you need to calm down. Much easier said than done, I know, but you need to try. Take long, deep breaths in through your nose and exhale through your mouth. Get some decent music on and try to relax.
I've never expereinced anything quite as intense as you're describing, but for several days after my more overwhelming trips I've felt different - like something clicked in my brain as you described.
You're not going insane. You've experienced a very strong psychedelic experience at a young age - perhaps too much for your mind to handle at the moment. People I've spoken to who have tried DMT said they didn't feel "normal" for several weeks after.
What exactly are you experiencing now? You say you're having trouble typing - why is that?
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: safe]
#5384475 - 03/10/06 05:40 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Its not unusual for effects to linger, try and stay calm it will pass.
Is there anybody you can talk to? Try and keep your mind off it, go for a walk or something.
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: mikeyboy]
#5384507 - 03/10/06 06:17 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well, I hope the mods dont give you the boot for being under 18 and breaking the rules - as it seems you are in need of some advice right now.
Personally, I think 16 is a bit young to be doing drugs, let alone very powerful psychedelics - but, cant undo whats been done. But, I will recommend laying off the drugs for a few years.
1st. Quit smoking pot.
I'm not sure if you've been smoking weed since then. But, quit smoking it if you are - it can agitate the situation and make it worse.
2nd. Relax
While I am no doctor, I'd be inclined to think that you are going to be fine. It's almost a week later and you're still alive - not that there was any risk of death to begin with - but, your still alive and kicking 7 days later, I'd think that'd be a good sign that you are not going to be dead any time soon.
3rd. Wait it out
Get lots of sleep, eat lots of healthy food - veggies, fruits, etc - things with lots of vitamins/minerals and all the 'good stuff' your body needs. Personally, I'd cut ALL 'drugs' - drinking, pot, smoking, etc out of the equation until you are back to feeling normal.
Also, try some breathing exercises ? sit on the floor, cross your legs, place your hands on your knees, keep a good posture, close your eyes and take deep breaths in and out ? very conscious and deliberate breaths.
To me, it sounds like you are having anxiety attacks ? and I?ve found doing some simple breathing to be a big help in dealing with those.
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: kaniz]
#5384519 - 03/10/06 06:30 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yep exactly what kaniz said. Eating healthy, and taking vitamins are really great ways to get back to normal. It does sound to me like an anxiety attack also, if you absolutly don't want to wait it out, go to the doctor or hospital right away (tell them you are having an anxiety attack, nothing about drugs), they will give you some good anti anxiety medicine. But seriously at 16 your mind is not fully developed, lay off the drugs for a while, smoke a little grass once in a while if you have to, but no psychedelics yet (they are stronger than you think). I also think its more of the 2cb that is messing with you, but I could be wrong. Research chems can be very unpredictable.
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: safe]
#5384552 - 03/10/06 06:57 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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You'll be oh, I has a friend once which after taking mushrooms wan totally insane for a week, could not breathe, and was scare like shit. It helped him by taking calcium = magnesium, eating sweets and sleeping. So I don't see any reason why it wouldn't help you. Keep in mind that it will pass, it always does. Also you can try to take short walks and get some fresh air. And believe me, it will go away.
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: pip182]
#5384558 - 03/10/06 07:03 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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pip182 said: lay off the drugs for a while, smoke a little grass once in a while if you have to, but no psychedelics yet (they are stronger than you think).
Sorry to nitpick but grass IS a psychedelic and believe me it will do you no favours whatsoever if you're trying to deal with anxiety.
Other than that though, sound advice... try to keep active, go for a bike ride or someting, take a shower, drink some water... talk to your friends, interact, watch comedy films... remember, DMT is a naturally occuring substance in the human brain, it's barely phsically harmful. People have had much higher doses and much worse experiences than yours and after a while they always come back down to earth, having learned a few lessons if nothing else.
But yes, most importantly, avoid the drugs, be patient and the noise in your head will soon quieten down.
Take care of yourself
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: Dfekt]
#5384595 - 03/10/06 07:29 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ive been there before man, but I had also done the research necessary to understand what I was going through. Apparently you didnt, that was your first error.
No sense in beating a dead horse there though, you fucked up and you found out what the consequences can be.
Seriously though, just wait it out. Ive gone through psychedelic binges where it took a month to feel "normal" again, and even then normal took a new meaning.
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: safe]
#5384657 - 03/10/06 08:08 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Dont think negatively.
This is only a moment in your life where things are crazy.
As time has always shown, what your feeling will pass, and your universe is not destroyed.
Just take a breather, the more you dwell on how your perceiving your expereince, the worse youll make it
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: Abrainspot]
#5384687 - 03/10/06 08:27 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm worried for the kid. He hasn't responded. I hope he didn't do anything drastic to get out of the situation he was in.
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I can't agree more with quit smoking pot.
What you need to KNOW right now is that your body will NOT let you die under ANY circumstances.
Lie down and breathe in very very deeply, then exhale and ........... wait for your body to inhale ON ITS OWN.
This is a little different than holding your breath, you just exhale all the air out of your body and pay attention, eventually you will feel your nervous system take control of your breathing as the desire to inhale comes......... let it.
So in this way you are consciously exhaling, but semi-consciously letting your own body inhale.
Do this.
What can happen is that when you are in a meditative state you can go an absurd amount of time without ever breathing, but here's the kicker, you don't need to breathe.... your body will take care of you.
Using this method I just told you about I stayed in the exhale portion, without inhaling, for what seemed like a good solid minute, and when my body let me inhale............. i was perfectly fine and balanced, had the optimum amount of airflow.
Don't fret about your breathing at all, surrender control of it to your body...... or use the method I said, and once you are done with it breathe consciously for a long time, while you're on the computer, notice your breath (but do not control), while you're reading, notice it.
Notice it as long as you can. You can go hours noticing and being aware of your breath without controlling it while doing other activities. It will help you feel more balanced and restored.
Go do some situps, eat lots of fruit, drink some tea....... exercise a bit......... relax........... think.... contemplate..........
It's your mind that needs some time to settle down, dont' worry at all about your body. You will be just fine.
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: kaniz]
#5384816 - 03/10/06 09:30 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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kaniz said: Well, I hope the mods dont give you the boot for being under 18 and breaking the rules - as it seems you are in need of some advice right now.Quote:
really, you should try to change that, or delete it before they catch you.
"WELCOME TO THE FORUM OF THE BANNED" is all you'll be seeing. i made a typo once, and got thrown in there, and never got out. they deleted everything i ever did on this site
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Edited by Moonunit_Zappa (03/13/06 09:24 AM)
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: zappa]
#5384857 - 03/10/06 09:43 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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looks like this could be the exception to the rule, and with good reason. I hope he's allright.
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StickyWater
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: abrad84]
#5384894 - 03/10/06 09:50 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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it's only been about 4 hours... give it some time...
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: StickyWater]
#5385148 - 03/10/06 10:58 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Perhaps you don't like the World, and wish to return to the Nothingness ("God's" universal point of manifestation) i.e... die.
I'm down too, I wish to return to the endless empyreans of the mind's unanatomical existence...
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#5385158 - 03/10/06 11:02 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: anonymous123]
#5387433 - 03/10/06 09:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hmmmm... still no reply from him, now you can start worrying...
If he did do something drastic... Well, he was playing around with powerful chemicals that he didn't seem to understand and he payed the price, he was being wreckless and irresponsible, something like this was bound to happen eventually...
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: StickyWater]
#5387457 - 03/10/06 09:41 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hopefully he is taking the advice; laying down and trying to relax.
He even mentioned it being difficult to write/type.
I'm sure hes alright. It would be nice to see some type of responce tho
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Asante
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: StickyWater]
#5388219 - 03/11/06 04:46 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hmmmm... still no reply from him, now you can start worrying...
Not necessarily. I have recieved notice that he is banned permanently for admitting to be underage. It's really uncool but we have an iron policy where it comes to underage users: they have to be banned the moment they are spotted, no exceptions.
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: Asante]
#5388274 - 03/11/06 05:25 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
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Hmmmm... still no reply from him, now you can start worrying...
Not necessarily. I have recieved notice that he is banned permanently for admitting to be underage. It's really uncool but we have an iron policy where it comes to underage users: they have to be banned the moment they are spotted, no exceptions.
ah yes, the legal reasons. Urgency or need of advice can't really be expected to outweigh legal necessities.
It sucks, but it's the way things have to work
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: Konnrade]
#5388390 - 03/11/06 06:43 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Let's hope he's ok.
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: Asante]
#5388393 - 03/11/06 06:52 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
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Hmmmm... still no reply from him, now you can start worrying...
Not necessarily. I have recieved notice that he is banned permanently for admitting to be underage. It's really uncool but we have an iron policy where it comes to underage users: they have to be banned the moment they are spotted, no exceptions.
Man, that sucks. I hope the person who banned him atleast offered some council first.. maybe alternative ways to find some help with his problem or SOMETHING...
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Re: please god someone help me please *DELETED* [Re: MushroomTrip]
#5388397 - 03/11/06 07:00 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: poboy]
#5388417 - 03/11/06 07:34 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Not cool to ban him when he needed help so bad.
Sometimes it really sucks to be a moderator, I bet the moderator who had to ban him felt just as bad about it as most of us here.
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But sometimes you have to do the right thing regardless of the law.
The right thing in this case is safeguarding the community and letting the good of the many outweigh the good of an individual.
Safe if you are still around to read this: you are probably having a prolonged reaction. This will eventually subside. As was suggested already it would be good to have a doctor prescribe you anti-anxiety medication.
It helps to have other people around so you are not alone.
Stop using all recreational drugs and spend much time lying in bed with your eyes closed, listening to your thoughts. It might get quite intense, but this is the best way to deal with this.
If you lack in trust, seek medical help and come clean that you have used a psychedelic.
Usually, after some time has passed, people come out of this OK, so worry is your enemy here.
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: safe]
#5388419 - 03/11/06 07:35 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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safe said: please im not lying, i know i sound like an idiot like im pissing around on your forum, i know i sound like that, i just want to know how to ground myself please,
now that made me laugh.
obviously - these drugs are not for you if you can not handle them. that simple.
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: RemainRandom50]
#5388429 - 03/11/06 07:43 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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safe said: please im not lying, i know i sound like an idiot like im pissing around on your forum, i know i sound like that, i just want to know how to ground myself please,
now that made me laugh.
obviously - these drugs are not for you if you can not handle them. that simple.
Noe this could happen to anybody. There's nothing to laugh about.Or do you think that if he would have the legal age to post he wouldn't have a bad trip? The best we can do is to be there for him and try to give him some advice. The boy is probably pretty scared.
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: MushroomTrip]
#5388476 - 03/11/06 08:09 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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safe said: please im not lying, i know i sound like an idiot like im pissing around on your forum, i know i sound like that, i just want to know how to ground myself please,
now that made me laugh.
obviously - these drugs are not for you if you can not handle them. that simple.
Noe this could happen to anybody. There's nothing to laugh about.Or do you think that if he would have the legal age to post he wouldn't have a bad trip? The best we can do is to be there for him and try to give him some advice. The boy is probably pretty scared.
I agree. thats nothing to laugh at, he just got in over his head thats all... man he was freaking out... I hope he grounds himself before he allows himself to go completely insane.
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#5388526 - 03/11/06 08:37 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: poboy]
#5388639 - 03/11/06 09:37 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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The dude is allready permabanned. He got to post his question, and his thread isn't deleted so he can read the replies. What's done is done.
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: Konnrade]
#5389017 - 03/11/06 12:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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How can you all just say that?! I leave for a few months and come back to this shit? WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU! That kid needed help, and it's the shroomery's job to help poor souls in need of psychedelic counsel, regardless of age.
After coming back to read this, I suggest the moderators of this forum reconsider our age policy. The law, in any form, is not meant to be interpreted and carried out literally. There are times when those in command will come across something that will force them to make a judgment call, possibly against the very law they uphold. In the face of such a decision, shame on the coward who would hide behind his status as keeper of justice and carry out the consequences of an unjust law.
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StickyWater
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In all fairness the age policy is clearly stated on the homepage... It was one of the first things I noticed when I found this place, and he could have made the exact same post and simply concealed his age... It was his own doing that he got banned, it was his own doing that he wound up in this situation... If he makes it through this hopefully he'll learn to approach things with better logic and to use better judgement... The fact that (by the sounds of it) he didn't really know much about the chemicals he took tells me that better logic and judgement would be a valuable thing for him to learn, and those are often lessons learned the hard way...
Personally not knowing the law regarding stuff like this I can't say whether or not it was right to ban him so quickly, but the fact is that he blatantly disregarded a rule and there was no reason that he had to bring it to our attention that he was breaking this rule. As hard as it probably was for that mod, I have to applaud them for not allowing their emotions and sympathy to overrun them... Far too many do this, far too many just end up endangering themselves as a result...
Bessides, as metioned, he can still read this thread...
Safe if you are reading this please feel free to get in touch with me by e-mail at shplonkey@hotmail.com if you feel you could still use a bit of advice (which I am willing to give).
Should he decide to get in contact with me, could I just ask in advance if the mods would allow me to act as a legal aged messenger for this kid or would this also be in violation of the rules? Just wanted to check in advance...
Edited by StickyWater (03/11/06 02:09 PM)
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: StickyWater]
#5389309 - 03/11/06 01:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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And he can still read the responses so no harm do really.
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: StickyWater]
#5389344 - 03/11/06 02:14 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Problem is that here, when we're talking "the hard way," we're talking potential death, or an agonizing internal hell until the person can get a grasp on their situation. There's no room to be taking chances in letting people learn the hard way IMO.
Safe, I've been there too, and it will pass. I've been to the fringes, hearing voices that sounded like they were real and all that, and I managed to get out of it completely. Wiccan's advice is good too heed:
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Stop using all recreational drugs and spend much time lying in bed with your eyes closed, listening to your thoughts. It might get quite intense, but this is the best way to deal with this. If you lack in trust, seek medical help and come clean that you have used a psychedelic. Usually, after some time has passed, people come out of this OK, so worry is your enemy here.
Thinking your thoughts out slowly, even while dozens of background thoughts are spinning fast through your head, is a very useful tool that gives you a bit of control.
Also, if you feel like your body is being torn apart, and empty inside, I've had that too, and gotten out of it too. That is due to a physical stress caused by your worries, and is not life-threatening. For me, I felt guilty and afraid of my challenging thoughts for whatever reason. Know that all thoughts are neither right or wrong, good or bad. There is truth however, but all thoughts are good to have and should be allowed - do no fight them, it is fighting your own mind.
I found release when I realized that I just like to think a lot, and that's ok. Sure it sounds weird, and maybe makes no sense for someone to hear, but the point is that I realized something that freed me to enter into all those nasty thoughts, and complete them, and then they were no longer nasty. Take care, buddy.
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: Disco Cat]
#5389350 - 03/11/06 02:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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When the human brain fails to tell the body "look, you're putting something inside you that could potentially destroy me, maybe you should do some research first" something tells me that the hard way is the only way it's going to sink in... True, it's a harsh lesson and it comes at the potential risk of his life. But again, it was his own self indulgent greed that put him in this position in the first place... Think of it as natural selection?
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: StickyWater]
#5389638 - 03/11/06 04:11 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well, If he is still reading this after all the, sort of unrelated discussion.
I suggest he: Stops smoking pot entirely. Watches a good movie now and then. gets plenty of sleep. gets plenty of exercise(helps alot). Tries to figure out some way to forget about forgetting to breath, keeps his friends and family close to him, keeps busy and doesnt stagnate.
I have had the same thing happen to me from years of responsible use, due to ayahuasca. I learned more from this experience than I ever thought was possible.
Try to find ways to feel at home in your own head again. The part about the fucked up nerves should bother you, but that will pass. Just hang in there, and dont resort to meds right away.
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: stemmer]
#5389841 - 03/11/06 05:23 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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What justifies this immediate ban? Why leave this kid stranded? This forum seems to influence the child heavily, and a ban from the place where he sought refuge could and probably did worsen his situation. You couldn't have given him a weeks or so notice?
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: MiddleFinger]
#5389975 - 03/11/06 06:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah i know I really feel sorry for the kid, he's probably terrified.
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TheHobbyMan151
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: MushroomTrip]
#5390150 - 03/11/06 07:23 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah. I don't take big amounts of shrooms though so i am alright.
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Gomp
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: TheHobbyMan151]
#5390319 - 03/11/06 08:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nirvana7
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: Gomp]
#5390426 - 03/11/06 09:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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just relax man, i know what your going through, ive been there. i had bad anxiety for a long time and i know how it feels. youll be fine man. if you contiue to use drugs over a period of time they start to sort of collect up and make you feel not 100% "normal" for a while but its natural and it WILL go away if you sober up. i OD on MG before and i didnt feel normal for a few days after that but i went back to the way i was and learned to respect my drugs in the process. dont worry man, youll be fine.
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StickyWater
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: TheHobbyMan151]
#5390549 - 03/11/06 10:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
TheHobbyMan151 said: yeah. I don't take big amounts of shrooms though so i am alright.
That's one of the most ignorant things I've ever heard...
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: StickyWater]
#5390610 - 03/11/06 10:57 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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poor li'l fella
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ph30n1x
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: Shnezbit]
#5390673 - 03/11/06 11:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well he can still read everything we're saying so it's not like the mods really screwed him. Although he can't post even if he had anymore problems, he can still read all our advice. To try to collaborate everything that has been said: 1. Quit smoking pot for a wile, a significant amount of time after you feel completely normal. 2. Sleep a lot, exercise a lot, and eat as healthy as you can 3. Most importantly; do things you love to do. Id suggest really working on a musical instrament or picking up one and then really working on it. Just realize that everything is gonna be alright man.  I'm sure peace is in the passenger seat of your "car."
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: ph30n1x]
#5390713 - 03/11/06 11:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well that sucks that he got banned before he could even post a response.
If you're reading still, you'll be all right. I've had my ass handed to me on a platter from 2g of strong cubensis. I think it's absolutely ignorant and elitist for anyone to scoff at bad trips. Any slight variable can toss the most experienced psychonaut into the murky waters of doubt, ego loss, paranoia and so forth.
I think that every strong psychedelic user on this forum has had some form of negative experience with psychedelics. It sucks that you tried DMT and had this bad realization, whatever it may be. We've been there, and you'll get past it. I had literally felt like the universe was caving in on me, and I didn't have a shred of my old ego to cling to. It was probably the most negative, unearthly and dismal feeling I ever had magnified to the billionth power. But I got past it, and you will too. Time will pass and you will be firmly planted to the earth again.
If it's nice out and you feel comfortable in your neighbourhood, go chill somewhere outside and bring some tunes if you have any. Talk your dog for a walk or talk to your best friend. Peace out, kid. Take care. And when all is good learn as much as you can from this experience. The worst trip of my life was personally the most life changing as well, and it was my most memorable and important trip ever.
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: browndustin]
#5394621 - 03/13/06 09:24 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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i agree. even though i was accidentally banned before, i respect that rule. we dont want one stupid little shit to ruin our community
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: zappa]
#5394685 - 03/13/06 10:10 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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well i read this post, than i read the post history to this kid and im not sure what to make of it.
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: shriek]
#5395375 - 03/13/06 02:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've felt this too. it was caused by way too much HBWR but two days later I was more or less back on my way to sanity, not even completely 'normal' for like a week. I have to agree with eating right and centering yourself. personally I would find some little patch of wilderness and go on a long walk.
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: SkzeR]
#5395981 - 03/13/06 05:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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As incredably stupid as it was to take DMT as 16, I agree that we should have waited for thit to be sorted out before he was banned.
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: SleepAid]
#5396215 - 03/13/06 06:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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It is a sad thing. DMT just is far too sketch though for my liking. Especially at 16 that kid was totally in the wrong. And I'm starting to wonder what his parents thought of this? I mean if he was freaking out that badly (I'd assume he's over this since it's been about 3 months) you would've thought he would've been caught and sent to rehab or something. But that was wrong that they banned his ass. I mean honestly aren't drugs like that (or in the case of this site magic mushrooms) illegal no matter what age? But I suppose the reasoning behind that is that this site is truly meant for research purposes rather than just tripping (although the 'Trip Reports' section is a bit contradictory) And although legality reasons triumphed over good morals in this case I suppose you can't do much except say that the moderator was merely doing his job and looking out for the welfare of the site...no matter what unfortunate circumstance.
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: LaughingGym]
#5396720 - 03/13/06 09:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Good diet and exercise is key. Thinking about it alot really does help when learning to accept it, but it seems he has alot of anxiety about it, so he should only take that to a point he is comforitable with(every day). People seem to quickly assume it was the dmt. I do think it played a part, but 2cb Is the more likely cause in my opinion. It is well know that 2cb causes some of the EXACT same after effects as he explained(more so than with typtamines). People feel like they are not at home in their own bodies, their breathing seems difficult, and they are very jumpy, anxiety stricken, and their mind just moves very quickly and just doesnt feel right. This can last a long time and be very disturbing, but for most peopl this goes away. Also, you dont know this kid one bit, so maybe he is pretty damn smart and felt ready for dmt, yet it bit him in the ass because he had certain latent mental conditions etc. Or maybe he is very sensative to dmt when mixed with or followed up by 2cb. I know I would be at 22 years old. I dont think people that young should do any psychedelics, I did though, and turned out just fine. Though there is no doubt it changed my mental development for better and worse. For himself, he was in the wrong in a few ways, but I wouldnt be too hard on him for that.
Edited by stemmer (03/13/06 10:47 PM)
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Grapefruity
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: stemmer]
#5398140 - 03/14/06 08:24 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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your havin anxiety, not psychosis, or you probably wouldnt realize it, safe...
Just stay off drugs for a while...yeah dmt rips your ego apart it seems and its what its supposed to do. And 2cb i wouldnt even try it.
Edited by Grapefruity (03/14/06 08:26 AM)
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