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OfflineKonnrade
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: Asante]
    #5388274 - 03/11/06 05:25 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Hmmmm... still no reply from him, now you can start worrying...




Not necessarily.
I have recieved notice that he is banned permanently for admitting to be underage. It's really uncool but we have an iron policy where it comes to underage users: they have to be banned the moment they are spotted, no exceptions.





ah yes, the legal reasons. Urgency or need of advice can't really be expected to outweigh legal necessities.

It sucks, but it's the way things have to work :frown:


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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: Konnrade]
    #5388390 - 03/11/06 06:43 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Let's hope he's ok.


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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: Asante]
    #5388393 - 03/11/06 06:52 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
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Hmmmm... still no reply from him, now you can start worrying...




Not necessarily.
I have recieved notice that he is banned permanently for admitting to be underage. It's really uncool but we have an iron policy where it comes to underage users: they have to be banned the moment they are spotted, no exceptions.





Man, that sucks. :frown: I hope the person who banned him atleast offered some council first.. maybe alternative ways to find some help with his problem or SOMETHING...


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Re: please god someone help me please *DELETED* [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #5388397 - 03/11/06 07:00 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: poboy]
    #5388417 - 03/11/06 07:34 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Not cool to ban him when he needed help so bad.




Sometimes it really sucks to be a moderator, I bet the moderator who had to ban him felt just as bad about it as most of us here.

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But sometimes you have to do the right thing regardless of the law.




The right thing in this case is safeguarding the community and letting the good of the many outweigh the good of an individual.

Safe if you are still around to read this: you are probably having a prolonged reaction. This will eventually subside. As was suggested already it would be good to have a doctor prescribe you anti-anxiety medication.

It helps to have other people around so you are not alone.

Stop using all recreational drugs and spend much time lying in bed with your eyes closed, listening to your thoughts. It might get quite intense, but this is the best way to deal with this.

If you lack in trust, seek medical help and come clean that you have used a psychedelic.

Usually, after some time has passed, people come out of this OK, so worry is your enemy here.


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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: safe]
    #5388419 - 03/11/06 07:35 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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safe said:
please im not lying, i know i sound like an idiot like im pissing around on your forum, i know i sound like that, i just want to know how to ground myself please,




now that made me laugh.




obviously - these drugs are not for you if you can not handle them. that simple.


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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: RemainRandom50]
    #5388429 - 03/11/06 07:43 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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RemainRandom50 said:
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safe said:
please im not lying, i know i sound like an idiot like im pissing around on your forum, i know i sound like that, i just want to know how to ground myself please,




now that made me laugh.




obviously - these drugs are not for you if you can not handle them. that simple.



Noe this could happen to anybody. There's nothing to laugh about.Or do you think that if he would have the legal age to post he wouldn't have a bad trip?
The best we can do is to be there for him and try to give him some advice. The boy is probably pretty scared.


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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #5388476 - 03/11/06 08:09 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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MushroomTrip said:
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RemainRandom50 said:
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safe said:
please im not lying, i know i sound like an idiot like im pissing around on your forum, i know i sound like that, i just want to know how to ground myself please,




now that made me laugh.




obviously - these drugs are not for you if you can not handle them. that simple.



Noe this could happen to anybody. There's nothing to laugh about.Or do you think that if he would have the legal age to post he wouldn't have a bad trip?
The best we can do is to be there for him and try to give him some advice. The boy is probably pretty scared.




I agree. thats nothing to laugh at, he just got in over his head thats all... man he was freaking out... I hope he grounds himself before he allows himself to go completely insane.


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Re: please god someone help me please *DELETED* [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5388526 - 03/11/06 08:37 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: poboy]
    #5388639 - 03/11/06 09:37 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

:shrug:

The dude is allready permabanned. He got to post his question, and his thread isn't deleted so he can read the replies. What's done is done.


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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: Konnrade]
    #5389017 - 03/11/06 12:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

How can you all just say that?!
I leave for a few months and come back to this shit?
WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU!
That kid needed help, and it's the shroomery's job to help poor souls in need of psychedelic counsel, regardless of age.

After coming back to read this, I suggest the moderators of this forum reconsider our age policy.
The law, in any form, is not meant to be interpreted and carried out literally. There are times when those in command will come across something that will force them to make a judgment call, possibly against the very law they uphold.
In the face of such a decision, shame on the coward who would hide behind his status as keeper of justice and carry out the consequences of an unjust law.


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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: Lysergic_Milkman]
    #5389300 - 03/11/06 01:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

In all fairness the age policy is clearly stated on the homepage... It was one of the first things I noticed when I found this place, and he could have made the exact same post and simply concealed his age... It was his own doing that he got banned, it was his own doing that he wound up in this situation... If he makes it through this hopefully he'll learn to approach things with better logic and to use better judgement... The fact that (by the sounds of it) he didn't really know much about the chemicals he took tells me that better logic and judgement would be a valuable thing for him to learn, and those are often lessons learned the hard way...

Personally not knowing the law regarding stuff like this I can't say whether or not it was right to ban him so quickly, but the fact is that he blatantly disregarded a rule and there was no reason that he had to bring it to our attention that he was breaking this rule. As hard as it probably was for that mod, I have to applaud them for not allowing their emotions and sympathy to overrun them... Far too many do this, far too many just end up endangering themselves as a result...

Bessides, as metioned, he can still read this thread...

Safe if you are reading this please feel free to get in touch with me by e-mail at shplonkey@hotmail.com if you feel you could still use a bit of advice (which I am willing to give).

Should he decide to get in contact with me, could I just ask in advance if the mods would allow me to act as a legal aged messenger for this kid or would this also be in violation of the rules? Just wanted to check in advance...


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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: StickyWater]
    #5389309 - 03/11/06 01:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

And he can still read the responses so no harm do really.


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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: StickyWater]
    #5389344 - 03/11/06 02:14 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Problem is that here, when we're talking "the hard way," we're talking potential death, or an agonizing internal hell until the person can get a grasp on their situation. There's no room to be taking chances in letting people learn the hard way IMO.

Safe, I've been there too, and it will pass. I've been to the fringes, hearing voices that sounded like they were real and all that, and I managed to get out of it completely. Wiccan's advice is good too heed:
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Stop using all recreational drugs and spend much time lying in bed with your eyes closed, listening to your thoughts. It might get quite intense, but this is the best way to deal with this.
If you lack in trust, seek medical help and come clean that you have used a psychedelic.
Usually, after some time has passed, people come out of this OK, so worry is your enemy here.




Thinking your thoughts out slowly, even while dozens of background thoughts are spinning fast through your head, is a very useful tool that gives you a bit of control.

Also, if you feel like your body is being torn apart, and empty inside, I've had that too, and gotten out of it too. That is due to a physical stress caused by your worries, and is not life-threatening. For me, I felt guilty and afraid of my challenging thoughts for whatever reason. Know that all thoughts are neither right or wrong, good or bad. There is truth however, but all thoughts are good to have and should be allowed - do no fight them, it is fighting your own mind.

I found release when I realized that I just like to think a lot, and that's ok. Sure it sounds weird, and maybe makes no sense for someone to hear, but the point is that I realized something that freed me to enter into all those nasty thoughts, and complete them, and then they were no longer nasty. Take care, buddy.  :heart:


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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: Disco Cat]
    #5389350 - 03/11/06 02:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

When the human brain fails to tell the body "look, you're putting something inside you that could potentially destroy me, maybe you should do some research first" something tells me that the hard way is the only way it's going to sink in... True, it's a harsh lesson and it comes at the potential risk of his life. But again, it was his own self indulgent greed that put him in this position in the first place... Think of it as natural selection?


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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: StickyWater]
    #5389638 - 03/11/06 04:11 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Well, If he is still reading this after all the, sort of unrelated discussion.

I suggest he: Stops smoking pot entirely. Watches a good movie now and then. gets plenty of sleep. gets plenty of exercise(helps alot). Tries to figure out some way to forget about forgetting to breath, keeps his friends and family close to him, keeps busy and doesnt stagnate.

I have had the same thing happen to me from years of responsible use, due to ayahuasca. I learned more from this experience than I ever thought was possible.

Try to find ways to feel at home in your own head again.
The part about the fucked up nerves should bother you, but that will pass. Just hang in there, and dont resort to meds right away.


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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: stemmer]
    #5389841 - 03/11/06 05:23 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

What justifies this immediate ban? Why leave this kid stranded? This forum seems to influence the child heavily, and a ban from the place where he sought refuge could and probably did worsen his situation. You couldn't have given him a weeks or so notice?


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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: MiddleFinger]
    #5389975 - 03/11/06 06:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah i know I really feel sorry for the kid, he's probably terrified.


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All this time I've loved you
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Here is true peace
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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #5390150 - 03/11/06 07:23 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yeah. I don't take big amounts of shrooms though so i am alright.



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Re: please god someone help me please [Re: TheHobbyMan151]
    #5390319 - 03/11/06 08:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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