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Re: President Bush [Re: Phred]
    #5392350 - 03/12/06 03:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Kerry's imaginary heroic actions on that Christmas Eve in '68 were of great service to his country and they are forever seared - seared into my memory.


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Re: President Bush [Re: Phred]
    #5392358 - 03/12/06 03:52 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not aware that the Swift Boaters were correct. There is testimony from many people that what he said he received his medals for was not a lie.


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Re: President Bush [Re: Redstorm]
    #5392378 - 03/12/06 04:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

The Swift Boaters were correct. See many many posts from before the election showing this.

I don't say that every Purple Heart he received was unjustified (although others do), just that the first one wasn't. And it wasn't. But that's neither here nor there, since a whole whap of soldiers also received Purple Hearts which probably weren't justified. Kerry wasn't alone in that scam.

But he did knowingly lie about "atrocities" he says he saw his fellow soldiers commit (see "Winter Soldiers" scandal), he lied about his "Christmas in Cambodia" (as his handlers eventually shamefacedly admitted), he lied about being present at the signing of the Conditional Cease Fire of the Gulf War in 1991, he lied about running in the Boston Marathon, he lied about throwing his medals over the White House fence, and he lied when he promised to release his military service records to the public. Even if you choose not to believe every charge brought by the Swift Boat Veterans, you can't dispute the other lies he's been caught at.

Then of course there's his sworn testimony before the senate that he personally committed war crimes. He's either lying about that, too, or he's a self-admitted war criminal. I leave it to you to decide which is worse.




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Re: President Bush [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5392495 - 03/12/06 04:39 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: President Bush [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5393461 - 03/12/06 09:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Thank goodness you recognize that.



Unfortunately, our "leaders" do not. Well, they do. But the pandering of the lobbying pharmaceutical industry is far too great. Money in capitalism comes first, the needs of human beings is second.

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I think you are referring to Medicare. Medicare is a program which pays for health care for old people. Medicaid is a program that pays for health care for poor people.



There is a fascinating reason I jumbled the two together at that time.


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Re: President Bush [Re: ACN45]
    #5394980 - 03/13/06 11:48 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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ACN45 said:
i wish there was a dumbass smiley




who the fuck are you calling a dumbass?

cheery picking?

The point I was trying to make was that while you argue this and that you don't even have your facts stright, thus complentely undermining your argument, removing all validity and significance. Understand?

You rarely ever say anything worth note, bitching and hatin on bush because the army kids around your way won't like you.  you rebel you. :shocked:

grow up. get your facts inorder and post something that is worth a damn.

quit living your life according to others. 

remember there is no diiference bewtween a non corformist and a conformist.

have a good day.


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Re: President Bush [Re: mack_tasticlies]
    #5395009 - 03/13/06 11:58 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

ACN, I would write to your arguements if they hadn't been so thourourghly dismantled by other posters here.

Superme court nominations, dismantled.

Fiscal matters, dismantled

abortion issues, dismantled.

You were thourpughly beaten here, leaving your wanting soul exposed for all with eyes to see.

You hate bush because the army kids ostracize you.


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Re: President Bush [Re: ACN45]
    #5395058 - 03/13/06 12:16 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

How is pushing tax cuts during a war and increased fiscal spending a good idea? Also you say he "trying to reform social security" what good is trying? Bush also tried to "liberate" iraq and look what a cluster fuck that is. It might be a good thing that he actually admitted it is a problem unlike past presidents but that is far from doing anything productive. And you like his foreign policy?!?!?!? holy shit what has he done REMOTELY productive with that? and john bolton was just the finish to bushs ass rape of the un. the final thumbing of the nose. and i guess condi rice was alright, but I mean if thats the best you can come up with you prove my point.  -ACN

The things he has done remotely productive with foreign policy is ensuring our access to oil in the decades to come.  If you can't see the value of that then you should go home an read some history.  Wanna see a staving America, lets go without oil.

Iraq is far from a cluster fuck.  This war could last five times as long as Vietnam and the casualties would barely scrape by the 50,000 or so that died in that heinous war.

The SC's are so far making some pretty progressive rulings, certainly far from the jesus loving war mongering right would appreciate. Drugs in church OK. Yeah, you got them there, with your liberal standpoint.

We created the UN, it serves our purposes, I can't for the life of me see what is so wrong with a puppet government we can control.

How the fuck do you get anything done without trying.  Social Security reform, someone has to get the ball rolling, it wont just happen on its own, bodies at rest tend to stay at rest unless an outside force is put upon bodies. Shit doesn't just happen.

by the way bitch, I am far from simple minded, I move through levels you can only imagine at. :vineclimb:

I put the bonus in bonus levels.

Have some respect for your superiors, don't ever call me a dumb ass or simpleminded again.  If you reread your post not once did I call you a name. I don't need to,  you probably beat yourself up everyday in front of the mirror, calling yourself all sorts of names with a verity and severity I can only barely begin to know. I would if I had to walk through life everyday like you.

Peace, biznatch.


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Re: President Bush [Re: mack_tasticlies]
    #5395069 - 03/13/06 12:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I liked it when clinton was president. Everything kicked ass during his term


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Re: President Bush [Re: mack_tasticlies]
    #5395080 - 03/13/06 12:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

You should cut the name-calling out of you post. You will be disciplined for flaming.


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Re: President Bush [Re: mikeownow]
    #5395089 - 03/13/06 12:26 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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mikeownow said:
I liked it when clinton was president. Everything kicked ass during his term




Waco?

Brady Bill?

Getting involved in the Balkans?

Oklahoma City bombing?

World Trade Center bombing?


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Re: President Bush [Re: mikeownow]
    #5395090 - 03/13/06 12:26 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

let me remind you guys, the majority of the planing to fly planes into the world trade center took place during clinton's reign. He was an aboslute assbag. But he was a pimp.


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Re: President Bush [Re: mack_tasticlies]
    #5395234 - 03/13/06 01:23 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i thought i had made it very obvious that i was calling you a dumbass, but if you need it to be more clear, your a dumbass.

***How is pushing tax cuts during a war and increased fiscal spending a good idea? Also you say he "trying to reform social security" what good is trying? Bush also tried to "liberate" iraq and look what a cluster fuck that is. It might be a good thing that he actually admitted it is a problem unlike past presidents but that is far from doing anything productive. And you like his foreign policy?!?!?!? holy shit what has he done REMOTELY productive with that? and john bolton was just the finish to bushs ass rape of the un. the final thumbing of the nose. and i guess condi rice was alright, but I mean if thats the best you can come up with you prove my point. -ACN

The things he has done remotely productive with foreign policy is ensuring our access to oil in the decades to come. If you can't see the value of that then you should go home an read some history. Wanna see a staving America, lets go without oil.

Iraq is far from a cluster fuck. This war could last five times as long as Vietnam and the casualties would barely scrape by the 50,000 or so that died in that heinous war.

The SC's are so far making some pretty progressive rulings, certainly far from the jesus loving war mongering right would appreciate. Drugs in church OK. Yeah, you got them there, with your liberal standpoint.

We created the UN, it serves our purposes, I can't for the life of me see what is so wrong with a puppet government we can control.

How the fuck do you get anything done without trying. Social Security reform, someone has to get the ball rolling, it wont just happen on its own, bodies at rest tend to stay at rest unless an outside force is put upon bodies. Shit doesn't just happen.

by the way bitch, I am far from simple minded, I move through levels you can only imagine at.

I put the bonus in bonus levels.

Have some respect for your superiors, don't ever call me a dumb ass or simpleminded again. If you reread your post not once did I call you a name. I don't need to, you probably beat yourself up everyday in front of the mirror, calling yourself all sorts of names with a verity and severity I can only barely begin to know. I would if I had to walk through life everyday like you.

Peace, biznatch.***

how has he ensured access to oil in iraq? he is far from securing iraq at all. there is a good chance that we will have to tuck-tail and go home leaving what accomplished? also you say the war could last five times as long as vietnam and barely scrape by the 50,000 mark? so what? are casualties what the win/loss is based off of in war? i guess you think WWII was our greatest defeat. thats what i mean by simpleminded. drugs and church, i got them with my liberal viewpoint? what does that mean? i wasnt even the one who made that point, but i agreed with it, so yet again whats your point? The UN serves its purpose, we controll it? Is that why the UN is in Iraq helping us out? you put the bonus in bonus levels? WOW!!!!i guess that passes for creativity in your simple minded circle of friends. Your dumb enough to say I bitch? Thats so ironic because i just wasted yet more of my time reading your frantic post saying how bad you got me. please, honestly shut up. you have said nothing that added to this at all. and how was i dismantled on any of those issues that you said? im so sick of wasting my time on you. have a nice day.


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Re: President Bush [Re: ACN45]
    #5395572 - 03/13/06 03:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah... this thread is now a flamefest.

Lame.


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Re: President Bush [Re: ACN45]
    #5395963 - 03/13/06 05:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

How exactly is this country so fucked up?

How exactly is it Bush's faul that the state of LA, shot itself in the foot before and after the hurricane?

You don't see my point about your proclamation of liberalism and bush's surpreme court nominee ruling in favor of drugs in a religious ritual?

Why did you captilize every letter in Iraq?

You think we are going to turn tail run home, only if a pussy ass liberal president gets into office next term. 

You guys speak so double tongued, you are all abunch of arrogant quasi erudites living off other peoples money. Except the extremely wealthy ones, who give less to teh poorthan the fundamentalist right.

you guys wanna feed the world with other peoples money.  You have no interest in the betterment of society, just the power you can gather to yourselves by enabling idiots.  They become depenedent on you, there is a reason that most of liberal votes come from the morons and wel faer recipients.  The school teachers and post office workers. The goverment feeds them and liberal government even more.

you wanna taker pwoer away from the people and make everything a federal issue.  Fuck the rights of the starte and its people, as if each state deosn't hav its own identity and needs.

You wanna alternative energy but don't wanna build nuke plants cause it may be bad for the enviornment, don't want wind plants cause they are ugly. You guys wanna take money from the people, crreate debt, spend it unwisely on the underserving and place America in peril with irresponsible scared military philosophy.

You prolly didn't even know that though, cause to you being a liberal is about hating bush, not the overall agenda of your own party. The consolidation of power in the Distrcit of Columbia.  Thake it away from the people and push us ever closewr down the road to tyranny.

I swear you must be in third grade, resorting to name calling, and not even very clever ones at that.  :flipthebird: :plzdie:


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