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OfflineACN45
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President Bush
    #5382086 - 03/09/06 04:40 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I am constantly having people yell at me for criticizing President Bush but these last couple of days I have been asking myself, "what has he done well, ever?" I can name countless ways he has fucked up this country and ruined its reputation starting with katrina, his supreme court noms, IRAQ, fiscal spending, i mean the list goes on and on. So, please anyone, tell me what he has done well.


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Re: President Bush [Re: ACN45]
    #5382122 - 03/09/06 04:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

long ago he cut taxes.

im sure you consider that a bad thing though.


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Re: President Bush [Re: ACN45]
    #5382126 - 03/09/06 04:49 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I dislike Bush as much as the next liberal type person. But he's not entirely a screw up.

Despite the campaign promises and the pressure from the religious right, he still has not made the smallest effort to enact a Constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. I find that somewhat heartening. I suspect that he's not quite as batshit insane and close-minded as some of the people who voted him into office are.

The reasons and international politicking done in regards to Afghanistan are/were something I supported. The follow-through leaves a great deal to be desired however.

He's gotten better at public speaking. A minor but commendable personal achievement.

That's all I've got right now.


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Re: President Bush [Re: ACN45]
    #5382135 - 03/09/06 04:52 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

What has been so bad about his Supreme Court nominations? They legalized the usage of Ayahuasca (sp?) tea for the UDV church. That looks like a positive move to me.


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Re: President Bush [Re: unbeliever]
    #5382140 - 03/09/06 04:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

the international politicking he did in regards to Afghanistan had more to do with the fact tha he needed those American troops in Iraq. He had no choice but to beg for a multinational force to try and stabilize afghanistan because his army was spread so thin.

Who did he cut those taxes for DieCommie? It was the rich people, my family sure did not benefit from those tax cuts. Also, yes i do think it is bad to have tax cuts in a time of such great fiscal spending.


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Re: President Bush [Re: ACN45]
    #5382151 - 03/09/06 04:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Well, I make under 10,000 a year and I benefited from it. I got a check in the mail. Dont know where your family's went...


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Re: President Bush [Re: ACN45]
    #5382246 - 03/09/06 05:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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ACN45 said:
I am constantly having people yell at me for criticizing President Bush




Really?  I hear nothing but criticism of Bush.  His supporters are few and far between from what I have seen in my daily life.

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ACN45 said:
but these last couple of days I have been asking myself, "what has he done well, ever?" I can name countless ways he has fucked up this country and ruined its reputation starting with katrina




I blame local (New Orleans) and state (Louisiana) officials more than federal officials when it comes to Katrina.  FEMA definately didn't move fast, but I think that wasn't really Bush's fault.

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his supreme court noms




Roberts seems pretty level-headed in my opinion.

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ACN45 said:
IRAQ




I agree.


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fiscal spending




I agree.

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ACN45 said:
i mean the list goes on and on. So, please anyone, tell me what he has done well.




He did draw attention to the fact that Social Security is fucked.  I didn't like his proposed plan, but at least he started some discussion about the glaring fiscal problems of Social Security.  Hm....that's his only positive action that I can think of actually.  :shrug:


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Re: President Bush [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5382523 - 03/09/06 06:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I live in Virginia near army bases and you would not believe some of the bullshit that comes out of people near me. In school if i ever started debates i would serioulsy become outnumbered by the jesus loving war mongering folk that i live near. It really is quite amazing that he has supporters.


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Re: President Bush [Re: ACN45]
    #5382692 - 03/09/06 07:28 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

So, please anyone, tell me what he has done well.

he kept john kerry out of the presidency.


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Re: President Bush [Re: wilshire]
    #5382928 - 03/09/06 08:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

how could kerry have run this country any worse?


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Re: President Bush [Re: ACN45]
    #5382951 - 03/09/06 08:33 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Could you explain to me what is so bad about his SC nominations?


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Re: President Bush [Re: ACN45]
    #5383002 - 03/09/06 08:49 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Bush has done some things with which I vigorously disagree. He's also done some things with which I agree. I recently posted in a different thread things I disagreed with.

Here are some things I agree with --

-- pushing through tax cuts
-- trying to reform Social Security
-- his foreign policy
-- His Supreme Court appointees so far (although he pretty much stepped on his dick with the Harriet Myers fiasco). Let's hope he gets to appoint at least one more. Two more would be even better.
-- appointing John Bolton to the UN
-- appointing Condi Rice as SecState



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InvisibleDieCommie

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Re: President Bush [Re: Phred]
    #5383019 - 03/09/06 08:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

oh yea John Bolton, that was a good one. If i remember correctly he slipped him through at an opportune time. Havent heard much about Bolton now that he is there though... I wonder what he is doing/has done.


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Re: President Bush [Re: Phred]
    #5383105 - 03/09/06 09:23 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Phred said:
Bush has done some things with which I vigorously disagree. He's also done some things with which I agree. I recently posted in a different thread things I disagreed with.

Here are some things I agree with --

-- pushing through tax cuts
-- trying to reform Social Security
-- his foreign policy
-- His Supreme Court appointees so far (although he pretty much stepped on his dick with the Harriet Myers fiasco). Let's hope he gets to appoint at least one more. Two more would be even better.
-- appointing John Bolton to the UN
-- appointing Condi Rice as SecState



Phred




How is pushing tax cuts during a war and increased fiscal spending a good idea? Also you say he "trying to reform social security" what good is trying? Bush also tried to "liberate" iraq and look what a cluster fuck that is. It might be a good thing that he actually admitted it is a problem unlike past presidents but that is far from doing anything productive. And you like his foreign policy?!?!?!? holy shit what has he done REMOTELY productive with that? and john bolton was just the finish to bushs ass rape of the un. the final thumbing of the nose. and i guess condi rice was alright, but i mean if thats the best you can come up with you prove my point.


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Re: President Bush [Re: Redstorm]
    #5383120 - 03/09/06 09:27 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Redstorm said:
Could you explain to me what is so bad about his SC nominations?




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Re: President Bush [Re: Redstorm]
    #5383138 - 03/09/06 09:35 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

mainly because they are so conservative and I am a liberal. I feel that women should have the right to an abortion, i believe in stem cell research, i believe in many lioberal things that a conservative supreme court will take away.


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Re: President Bush [Re: ACN45]
    #5383145 - 03/09/06 09:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Have they ruled on any of those things yet?

They ruled on a minority religion's right to use a scheduled drug. That isn't quite a "conservative" thing to do.


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Re: President Bush [Re: ACN45]
    #5383147 - 03/09/06 09:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

is there a specific example of a ruling that goes against your liberal beliefs?

edit-damm, godizilla beat me too it


Edited by Qubit (03/09/06 09:38 PM)


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Re: President Bush [Re: Redstorm]
    #5383154 - 03/09/06 09:41 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Also you say he "trying to reform social security" what good is trying?



Bush made a push to have it privatized. Capitalists want everything privatized. Eighty year olds can starve to death or get a job as far as King George is concerned.


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Re: President Bush [Re: bukkake]
    #5383158 - 03/09/06 09:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Actually, under his plan for reform, those who are retired would continue with SS without a change.


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