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WordlessNature
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Could this be cubensis?
#5379150 - 03/08/06 08:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hmmm. I found these in the same location as the pans I posted about earlier. However, as you can see, these were growing directly out of horse manure. With slight pressure, they seem to bruise blue... Cap is just about an inch wide, and the spores appear to be purple-brown, having fallen onto the stalk.



and an immature specimen:
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sui
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no. cubes arnt native to your area.
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Edited by sui (03/08/06 08:52 PM)
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WordlessNature
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Native... [Re: sui]
#5379260 - 03/08/06 08:57 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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It is my understanding that whether or not a species is native to a region, it is still possible for them to pop up due to a number of possible circumstances. Therefore, it is not a deciding factor in determining whether a particular mushroom may belong to that species... So, in other words, what do the pictures seem to resemble?
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I'd say it's most likely a stropharia (s. semiglobata or similar). there's also a possibly it's a psilocybe (p. coprophila, p. sierrae/subfimetaria, p. fimetaria or something like that.). definitely not a cube.
did you check for a separable pellicle? can you get pics of the bluing?
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shroominDole
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Psilocybe merdaria......sugested dose....25,000 caps for mild hilarity if your lucky....(close to Ps. coprophila) s.d. 50,000 caps
-------------------- Worlds Largest 'Liberty Cap' (Cali Libs Confirmed !) ' Comments On Hallucinogenic Agarics And The Hallucinations Of Those Who Study Them ' Alexander H. Smith Mycologia vol.69 1977
Edited by shroominDole (03/08/06 09:18 PM)
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georgeM
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Re: Could this be cubensis? [Re: shroominDole]
#5379708 - 03/08/06 11:12 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oh whatever Shroomindole.. surely you jest. "25,000 caps for mild hilarity if your lucky..." come on... with an MAOI twelve to fifteen thousand should be enough for someone of normal body weight. georgem
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sui
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Quote:
WordlessNature said: It is my understanding that whether or not a species is native to a region, it is still possible for them to pop up due to a number of possible circumstances. Therefore, it is not a deciding factor in determining whether a particular mushroom may belong to that species... So, in other words, what do the pictures seem to resemble?
show me prooff of a cube wild in cali and ill retract what i said. But until then No cubes in Cali!!!!
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ihaveacow
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Re: Native... [Re: sui]
#5381306 - 03/09/06 01:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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uh yeah thats active from my first view of it. spore print it... what ever happened to printing?
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shroominDole
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Re: Native... [Re: sui]
#5381667 - 03/09/06 02:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ha...good one George but inhibition of MAO is dangerous and risky chemistry....its there for a reason....and I would say Words statement is 100% true about non-regularly occuring mushrooms, inscects, fish, birds, etc., can explode with varying short term weather changes which usually includes increased temperatures and humidity which usually last as long as the whether does....especially in place like California....and as everybody knows is probably the greatest collision of natural geographic and botanic diversity in the world....let alone temporary micro-climatic conditions but is true anywhere in the world....And Psilocybe cubensis DOES occur in California as an occasional advent when all the planets are aligned....fact....and god knows theres a few cube spores floatin around there....in Cal.?....shocking!
and oh ya you can take PS. merdaria and put them in a small(or large) pot and gently plant them and occasionally mist to keep moist(not soaked) and can produce nuther couple weeks in window sill....then put couple candles around (not to close)and couple inscence in pot and pray to SOMA and the rain gods for more........
-------------------- Worlds Largest 'Liberty Cap' (Cali Libs Confirmed !) ' Comments On Hallucinogenic Agarics And The Hallucinations Of Those Who Study Them ' Alexander H. Smith Mycologia vol.69 1977
Edited by shroominDole (03/09/06 03:07 PM)
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WordlessNature
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The sporeprint is rather dark purple, verging on black. As they dry, the caps are taking on a more reddish tinge. I don't know what they are. I might just munch one or two and see where it goes. Definitely not deadly mushrooms, in any case.
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xmush
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You are willing to risk your life on that?
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WordlessNature
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Re: hmmm... [Re: xmush]
#5390866 - 03/12/06 01:34 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hepatic failure... Very alluring, no? In truth I am loathe to eat any mushrooms picked wild, although I am fairly confident that there are no fatally toxic mushrooms that can grow on manure.
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Tattoo
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no idea, but it sure it sure is pretty
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eris
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I see no point in eating that.
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ihaveacow
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Re: hmmm... [Re: eris]
#5391171 - 03/12/06 06:41 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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dark purple is good/black
i say it eat, i would
deff. not poisonous. thats for sure
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Edited by ihaveacow (03/12/06 06:43 AM)
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ihaveacow
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if your from the southeast, now that i take a closer look at the pics... i have found plenty of shrooms like that in my cube field (see avatar of mine) i just put them in the cubensis pile
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shroomydan
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His mushroom is clearly not Psilocybe cubensis. Nor does P. cubensis grow in his area.
Eating unidentified mushrooms is dumb!
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Banez
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my guess is with a black or dark purple print u are probably looking at Panaeolus and/or Copelandia. Coprinus (shaggy Mane) and/or Anellaria also have jet black sporeprints but are not hallucinogeic. Both Panaeolus and Copelandia mushrooms contain the alkaloids psilocybin and psilocin. They are usually identified by a light colored stem to brown and blue extremely intensely. Especially the Copelandia mushrooms which are iknown as 'blue meanies.' They have no ring onthe stem. The caps are also hygrophanous changing form many light colors to off white or straw-yellow in drying
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LaughingGym
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Re: hmmm... [Re: Banez]
#5391444 - 03/12/06 09:57 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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It looks active to me, doesn't look like Gallerina or anything deadly. But listen to the moderators. They know better.
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shroominDole
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Great point with your warning Xmush....I went ahead and entered a couple replies on this I.D. earlier on this thread....incredible and clear pics by the way....tripod?....incredible digital photography....its like you can almost see into the soul on that gill shot....this mushroom is a Psilocybe.... Psilocybe merdaria.....latently "active"
-------------------- Worlds Largest 'Liberty Cap' (Cali Libs Confirmed !) ' Comments On Hallucinogenic Agarics And The Hallucinations Of Those Who Study Them ' Alexander H. Smith Mycologia vol.69 1977
Edited by shroominDole (03/12/06 12:29 PM)
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