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NickSoapdish
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Re: Help me figure out tripping. [Re: leery11]
#5379435 - 03/08/06 09:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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leery11 said: this leaves....................... three options. 1) trip here, if i get restless i'm going to have to find entertainment/comfort in a somewhat negative environment. 2) find some sort of way to trip at my parents, seems very unlikely 3) find some place that i can go camping. many complications but would be most rewarding.
Is there anyone else you know with a place of their own that you'd feel comfortable around? If not, 3 is definitely the best option and worth the wait/effort.
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Re: Help me figure out tripping. [Re: leery11]
#5379457 - 03/08/06 09:52 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Go camping man...seriously. It's well worth the effort and the isolation from the rest of society provides a great environment for the dissolving of social concerns. It will allow you to get in touch with just you and the world provided you focus your energies even somewhat correctly. Nature has a lot to teach you my friend!
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Re: Help me figure out tripping. [Re: Kaleidoscope]
#5379468 - 03/08/06 09:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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well there's one person i know who i'd be real comfortable with if he's around.
i'm not sure where to go camping though, there's a lake near here that i should check out and see if it has any good isolated places.....
i don't know exactly how it works to "camp legally" it wouldn't hurt to find out though.
unless i wanted to just sleep on the ground i'd need to take a tent from my parents though, and it would be a completely out of character thing for me to do.... hmmmm.
i guess i could just wander around the lake until i came down then go back home too. i'm just not sure if mescaline is going to make me throw up or anything. and i wouldn't be able to drive.
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Re: Help me figure out tripping. [Re: leery11]
#5379578 - 03/08/06 10:27 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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60 g of cactus powder will most likely make you puke if its good stuff...just keep in mind, it lasts a long ass time if it's good. I think it was savako that just did about 25 g and had a pretty good trip.
As far as camping goes, if you aren't camping at a campground, for state owned land you need a permit...they're cheap. For private land, ask the owner if you can camp there.
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Re: Help me figure out tripping. [Re: leery11]
#5379585 - 03/08/06 10:28 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes, camping or any isolated place would be the best choice; from what ive read i wouldnt even consider tripping where you are now.
no matter where you are planning to trip if there is any hint of being uncomfortable or the slightest unpleasant feelings dont try to tough it out and do it anyways, like Tool says "be patient" and "wait it out."
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Re: Help me figure out tripping. [Re: Kaleidoscope]
#5379661 - 03/08/06 10:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Kaleidoscope said: As far as camping goes, if you aren't camping at a campground, for state owned land you need a permit...they're cheap. For private land, ask the owner if you can camp there.
I go camping at the camping grounds at the lake all the time and here in oklahoma there is no permit needed.
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Re: Help me figure out tripping. [Re: leery11]
#5380234 - 03/09/06 04:18 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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you cannot use the help yet.
you have not yet decided if you want to trip to have fun and win friends (fama, fortuna, amore), or if you want to see what is.
a seer can have no intention of controlling the trip the results are meaningless. - what are the results, can they even be verbalized?
seeing is a process and a way of being. all of this other crap about measuring your feelings and the quandries of inadequacy or thinking that sex or drugs is dirty is related to being confused about what you want to do
do you want to see or do you want to control.
if you want to control get away from psychedellics and get into money and politics or organized religion.
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Re: Help me figure out tripping. [Re: leery11]
#5380562 - 03/09/06 09:16 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Honestly, you do not seem to be in the mindset to take any advice or anything of the sort. Besides, there is nothing any of us can tell you.
The title of this thread is humorous. Do you think other people have psychedelics figured out? If so, you are deluding yourself.
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Re: Help me figure out tripping. [Re: mecreateme]
#5380631 - 03/09/06 09:49 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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hey man, i kinda know where your coming from a little bit, i used to get really bad anxiety and still get the smallest of small feelings of it sometimes but it dosnt bother me because i ignore it. you just have to sort of say fuck it, im not gonna let this bother me, the worst that can happen is death. what i mean by that last part is that if you tell yourself that if things were to go as wronge as they possibly can than youd die and be in a better place, wether that better place is heaven, Nirvana, or simply the eternal rest and blissful unawareness that comes with death. i think the best thing to do dosage wise is to start really small and gradually work your way up. you can do this in variety of ways, each different meathed producing slightly different results.
1.) buy alot of shrooms but only take the smallest of doeses, after you give yourself a good hour to two hours to see what you feel like take a slightly little bit more. keep doing this till your trip is were it wants to be, but keep in mind that if you do this that the trip will be very "choppy" and youll not experience a smooth coming up but several small comings up and maybe even several different peaks.
2.) this ones the longer version. take a small amount. dont take anymore for that trip. if the trip wasnt strong enough than next time take a little more. keep doing this till you find the approprate level of tripping for your own personal satifaction level. this is the smoother way to do things, you dont have to deal with a choppy trip. this way can take alot longer though.
if you wanted to you could probably mix the two meathods to speed things up. one last thing to consider is this, i dont know what your thoughts on frequent phycadelic drug useage is but i know that addiction is a bad thing, most of the time. you dont wanna become dependant on shrooms, lsd, lsa, nitrous, cannabis, or any other phycadelic to give you your good feelings, rather you should use these drugs as a tool to help you find happiness in everyday life, then you can continue to do them for all the right reasons. i hope my reply has given you the strength and curage to use phycadelics to find happiness in your life man, because everyone deserves happiness. if you have any other questions you wanna ask me just email me at Eibbor70@hotmail.com
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Re: Help me figure out tripping. [Re: Nirvana7]
#5380847 - 03/09/06 10:59 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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redgreenvines i do want to simply experience.
the other things are abstractions of my desire to trip i suppose. because both trips would be fine. the fun trip with friends. the serious trip alone. i see both having merit.
i think i have a handle on how to make this decision now but it requires more preparation "The title of this thread is humorous. Do you think other people have psychedelics figured out? If so, you are deluding yourself. " what the title means is "figure out whether i should trip"
I'll figure something out.
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Re: Help me figure out tripping. [Re: leery11]
#5380976 - 03/09/06 11:42 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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i think a good idea for you right now is meditation. deep meditation in a dark room in a relaxed atmosphere. just put on some good music and just sit there motionless for a while. i prefer to have a hoody on so that i can pull the hood down over my face, but you might not like that.
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Re: Help me figure out tripping. [Re: leery11]
#5381017 - 03/09/06 11:57 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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The line, help me figure out tripping, does not bring to mind whether you should trip or not, to me anyways. I read it as you want people to help you figure out tripping, which I am not sure will ever be done, but who knows.
Do you mean to clarify that that is what the title means to you? If so, that makes sense. The title does not mean the same thing to you as it does to me. However, now that you have revealed this nugget of information, I understand where you were coming from.
I would suggest waiting. We always have time to wait. Plus the more information and learning you put in to you, the more meaningful your trips will be. There is always plenty of time to trip, however you seem to need much "planetary-side" work. And that is very important. It could be called working on your life.
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Re: Help me figure out tripping. [Re: mecreateme]
#5381190 - 03/09/06 12:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey Leary I think this may help. I was having a very similar problem. I wanted to trip on the mushrooms I had here, but due to a few past incredibly frightening experiences on LSD their was this fear in the pit of my stomache that I have not been able to overcome for almost 2 weeks now.
It sucks because I know that once I trip i will understand and overcome my fear, but this fear eats me alive everytime im about to eat the mushrooms. My heart starts beating faster, i start sweating, and i finally give up and put the mushrooms down.
Last night i decided that the atmosphere was never going to be perfect how I want it. I live in Florida and was planning to go camping at the everglades, but their is no way im going there alone and i want to trip alone.
So anyways, last night I decided I was not showing the heart of a warrior, and that the illusion of fear was overwhelming every particle of my soul. So I decided to go through with it no matter how scared I got right before ingestion.
I put my TV (satelite) on one of the music channels, I put it on a new age station. Awesome music! I turned on a candle, and finally found the strength within to eat the mushrooms. I ate 2 grams of Puerto Rican.
Let me tell you something. That was the best choice I have made in a very long time. The anxiety simply washed away like a sand castle near the ocean tide as soon as my eye awakened. I layed in my bed for 3 hours staright, listning to music, lost somewhere within my mind and a world of fantasy. It was beautiful. Fear is an illusion, every possible reason that you are listing in that huge list of yours is nothing more than your rational mind trying to clinge to security & control. Just let go, stop rationalizing the possible negative results.
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Re: Help me figure out tripping. [Re: Akira]
#5381230 - 03/09/06 12:52 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fear is an illusion, every possible reason that you are listing in that huge list of yours is nothing more than your rational mind trying to clinge to security & control. Just let go, stop rationalizing the possible negative results.
Nice! 
This is what you need to try to understand, leery. Please don't dismiss it. Taking psychedelics is about considering everything. Not about blocking/resisting things, it is about embracing and taking resposibility for what you are.
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Re: Help me figure out tripping. [Re: mecreateme]
#5381657 - 03/09/06 02:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Much of the advice given so far is good, but, leery, I've read some of your other posts and I think I realize some of the issues you are going through. You can meditate and all that stuff, but for many people it simply takes talking about them. You have the rest of your life to take psychedelics and to grow from the use of them. But, sobriety can be one hell of a character builder as well. I don't know that tripping is going to unlock some kind of answer for you related to your concept of being a "sinner" or being in "hell". It could very well serve to just confuse the issue at this point. Take some time... reflect on what you believe and why it is that you believe those things. Are they concepts that your parents have passed down to you? You have to consciously work through this stuff. And, if you can, find someone older than you and more mature than you that is willing to listen to you and talk to them. Share with them your insecurities and slowly you will start to construct your own moral reality. I wish you all the luck, and just remember, as cliched as it sounds, the most important aspect of getting the most out of psychedelics is set and setting.
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Re: Help me figure out tripping. [Re: 33L]
#5381774 - 03/09/06 03:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Its interesting that you mention the navel because in a book. 'American Chica' around pp 90-96 they mention the navel as a very spiritual part of your being and it left the same eerily similar remnants of thought when I read your story.. Ill try to retype some of what i am illustrating later on.
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Re: Help me figure out tripping. [Re: ShroomFan]
#5382944 - 03/09/06 08:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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ShroomFan said: Its interesting that you mention the navel because in a book. 'American Chica' around pp 90-96 they mention the navel as a very spiritual part of your being and it left the same eerily similar remnants of thought when I read your story.. Ill try to retype some of what i am illustrating later on.
that would be most helpful..... what is this book about? I recall reading about someone who was using LSD for psycho-therapy who had problems in his navel, that it eventually resolved. He felt that he was being born elsewhere in another dimension and it needed to be worked through, the acid helped.
To the other posts ............... I do not think I am a sinner. I am not living my life the way I should, but I'm putting forth effort and I'm not worried about that. I just feel that this WORLD and this NATION are really messed up, everything right down to the popular culture and the death metal music and all this shit....... i view it as extremely evil.
I do need to a lot of reality work, actually... that is very true..... I feel out of it......... sometimes. My dreams are really far out to the point of being borderline transcendental........ and so........ I don't know.
There's an ambivalence, and I guess that means you don't do it. But I feel like it could easily go both ways, that the mescaline would help me sort issues out (yes i know it's not for blocking issues, that's why i want to do it) and then........ I also feel like I would cave in to fear, etc.
It's tough to figure out. I could confidently take a large DXM dose right now and be just fine aside from hangover effects, but the prospect of a newer and more "real" psychedelic is what is making me iffy.
I'm thinking I may very well just simply eat like 1/2 oz, see what the threshold and light effects are like, get a feel for it.
Then decide how, when, and why to consume the reamining 1 and 1/2 ozs, should still be a pretty strong trip assumedly. Though....... I don't know if 14g of cactus is enough to feel mescaline and if I eat a whole ounce then I don't have any way to do a higher dose.
You guys are right though, there's plenty of time for tripping. But SPRING BREAK is upon me................... I don't like sitting at home at my parents wasting away playing video games (which messees up my shoulders from awkard sitting postures).
my issue is a lack of clear defined will. That's the bottom line. I'm passive and indecisive and ambivalent. The other option I'm considering is getting a friend to split the 2 ounces with me and hang out at his place. He doesn't trip though but I'm thinking he may be open to trying it.
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Edited by leery11 (03/09/06 08:32 PM)
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Re: Help me figure out tripping. [Re: leery11]
#5383055 - 03/09/06 09:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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First, I also thought the navel thing is very interesting. Try reading up on Yoga and Chakra's. Apparently the Chakra that is most important for bodily/and sexual impulses is supposed to be right around that area. It's not something I know a whole lot about but there is a pretty elaborate science that Yogis (and new age people) have come up with.
It seems to me that mescaline probobly would be a good choice of substance for what you are trying to accomplish. It's character is more emotional/somatic with lots of visuals. It seems to be good for flushing out "energy blockages" in the body. It is also alot easier to control than a comparable dose of mushrooms. There can be plenty of anxiety (at first anyway) because it often feels like you COULD lose control and get lost, but it is actually alot harder than you would think with mescaline. The fear can project alot of things that aren't there and exagerate what is there. With mushrooms I feel you actually CAN lose control, and above a low dose it is pretty inevitable that you will.Anyways, if you've done DXM mescaline is probobly pretty easy to deal with in comparison.
How much is to take is hard to tell. I always assumed that normal doses where between 20-30 grams of dried P. Torch, but in another post somebody was telling me he took 150! All I know is that if that if we were talking 60 grams of the kind of dried stuff I have had in the past, I might be a little intimidated. I've tripped pretty hard on 30.
If you think that a psychedelic drug is the answer you will need to create some kind of framework for integrating the experience when you come back. You can't just expect to trip and then everything will be taught to you and everything will be permanently changed. Most of the time within the trip and when it is over alot of re-orientation is necessary. You need to learn how to accept the new world you have been initiated into and what to do with the knowledge it brings. Particularly, if you are talking about releasing energy if that really does happen you are going to have to develop some way of keeping yourself grounded. When energy is let loose your mind can get unbalanced.
I think tripping itself necessitates this: when you find yourself in a reality without mental gravity or habits to keep your inertia from sailing away with every thought and feeling, you have to center yourself and learn a delibrate way of being and thinking, because the old habbits (which caused the problems) won't work. I think to this end you need some kind of purpose and determination to guide you.
That sense of purpose and determination must also guide you when you have returned from the journey because you will have to accept all that has happened to you and reconcile it with ordinary existance. Trips can be very mind boggling, and very indirective. You have to be committed to learning from it and doing something with it, because you have to build new things and grow from experience. Your old system is almost always turned on its head or swept away so you need to replace it with a better, happier, and more conscious one. People can get very depressed if they shatter their old reality but never move forward.
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Re: Help me figure out tripping. [Re: Divided_Sky]
#5383095 - 03/09/06 09:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wow. Thank you very much. Yes I know of chakras (I mentioned them in one of my posts but it was probably disjointed and hard to infer). I spoke to my yoga instructor about my issues with fear and the navel area and she agreed that that is where they are located.
I guess for me integration is rather difficult. I learned while on weed that i AM a Buddhist, but ......... there's a schism between sober reality and stoned reality.... much of the things I learn I don't apply.
Even my horrible trip (on weed) relating to television, I haven't really integrated fully..... in many ways I have... I've steered clear from negative programming, mute commercials......... and stay away from negative music too.
So........ this is not P Torch........ it's Trich. Bridgesii I believe. Perhaps one ounce would easily be a good trip then? If you're tripping hard on 30 then I may just go ahead and do 28 or so.
I'm working on turning my life around. I just made it impossible for me to smoke anymore weed [which is opening up my lungs and sinuses and making me healthier already]......... I have started exercising a lot more. I'm doing 1 hour yoga sessions 4 times a week [i'd like to do it every single day but schedule won't allow]. (actually this is my second semester of doing yoga but I'm really starting to crack down on actually putting effort into it and improving my body)
But ........ there's much more to do. I feel like if I don't interact with humans I will slip away into some sort of void of non-consciousness as my social skills collapse and I feel more and more disconnected from reality. I also need to go get in tune with nature at some point.
So.......... perhaps mescaline + walking around the lake. I may go scout the area out tomorrow. But I do think I will probably trip sometime next week on mesc. Time will tell.
-------------------- I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo! ....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human...... Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!
Edited by leery11 (03/09/06 09:21 PM)
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Re: Help me figure out tripping. [Re: leery11]
#5388385 - 03/11/06 06:39 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'll be straight-up honest with you here because I've always enjoyed your posts and I want the best for you.
Find some good shit (shrooms, acid or peyote) and go into a forest area where there are no people, and get completely and totally lost intentionally. Maybe at night if you think it won't be too scary, but there are a number of parks around me for instance that are basically empty of people. Once you hit the trails you'll see maybe one person an hour, and if you go off the trails you see not a single person. Find a place like this.
I'd recommend shrooms for it, just do whatever you have to to find them or grow them, get some shrooms or find some mescaline. There's no confusion. I've found, IME, it's always warm, friendly, even at the absolute most intense points (ego loss) I still enjoyed it on some level. Even when scared shitless before eating or worried or in a bad mood, I come out on top. I'm very clear-minded, maybe a bit plagued with ADD but still clear-minded and sensible. But you will be one with nature on so many levels. And what I've heard is that it's damn hard to have a bad trip on mescaline, so you're pretty safe there.
I have a friend in your situation as well, and shrooms are the only things that work for him. He's like, immune to psychedelics or something.
Anyway, you just have to say, "Okay, I'm doing it, I'm going out into the woods and getting lost, and I just have to deal with it." I guarantee you will come back with your issues sorted out (mescaline) or at least in a much better, more enlightened mood (shrooms).
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Akira said:I put my TV (satelite) on one of the music channels, I put it on a new age station. Awesome music! I turned on a candle, and finally found the strength within to eat the mushrooms. I ate 2 grams of Puerto Rican.
Let me tell you something. That was the best choice I have made in a very long time. The anxiety simply washed away like a sand castle near the ocean tide as soon as my eye awakened. I layed in my bed for 3 hours staright, listning to music, lost somewhere within my mind and a world of fantasy. It was beautiful. Fear is an illusion, every possible reason that you are listing in that huge list of yours is nothing more than your rational mind trying to clinge to security & control. Just let go, stop rationalizing the possible negative results.
I just went through this EXACT same situation, I just made a thread on Monday while I was doing it. Best idea I've ever had. It took me 15 minutes to finally start eating the shroom sandwich in my hands, and it was one of the best trips I've ever had.
Edited by supersapien (03/11/06 06:47 AM)
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