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How can I avoid getting ripped off when buying LSD?
    #5377314 - 03/08/06 11:53 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

so it looks like i've found a hookup for LSD, but i want to make sure it's the real thing before blowing 10bucks a hit. can anyone give me a few general tips to narrow down if something is real LSD or not without actually doing it?

i'm in ontario, between ottawa and toronto. (not sure if that matters, or if there are some general prints going around the area)

1 more quick question.. how long does LSD last before losing potency?


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Re: How can I avoid getting ripped off when buying LSD? [Re: duggan18]
    #5377329 - 03/08/06 12:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I won't buy unless I know the cook ot atleast know the person that layed it.

Too many RC's floating around out there, plus I like to know my doseage too.

Really it comes down to trust in your dealer and his knowledge of the substance.


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Re: How can I avoid getting ripped off when buying LSD? [Re: dedjam]
    #5377382 - 03/08/06 12:33 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Well, I live in Toronto, and there is legit/real acid floating around here.

As for being able to tell - no real way short of

a: being told what the blotter is before hand, then looking it up on the "LSD prints thread" and seeing if its there. Or, knowing someone who has done that blotter and can confirm.

b: Buy 1 or 2 hits, take them - and see how it goes. If it's the 'real deal' - do a bulk-buy from the same source/blotter after that so you have a nice little stockpile.

If LSD is properly stored (cool place, out of light, away from heat) - it will last a fairly long time.

And then, it comes down to - how well do you trust this source? Do you know other people who get things from them? what do they say about his stuff?


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Re: How can I avoid getting ripped off when buying LSD? [Re: kaniz]
    #5377387 - 03/08/06 12:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

grr, shroomery is being slow as shit right now and not letting me edit my post.

*BUT*

- if the blotter looks larger than normal, or your told "take 4 or 5 hits" for a dose - then that can be a sign its a RC and not LSD.

A single hit of blotter should be about the size - or actually smaller than your pinky finger nail.

If you get one hit, and it looks so small you think "what? thats it?" - its a good chance of being the real deal.

If the blotter is really big, - its a sign it may be bunk or an RC


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Re: How can I avoid getting ripped off when buying LSD? [Re: duggan18]
    #5377390 - 03/08/06 12:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

If it's blotter, you're entier gonna get LSD or blank paper, I believe. Nothing that I am aware of is active at the same small doses. It's micrograms Vs. milligrams.

Also, acid apparently glows white under a blacklight. I've never seen this myself, but I've never held acid under a black light. It's usually wrapped up tight, or in my mouth.

Acid is fairly stable, provided you keep it away from heat, water and light. So, "keep it in a cool dry place" are pretty good words to live by. I'm not sure on the exact shelf life, but I've got a few blotters that are still kickin' at around one year old.


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Re: How can I avoid getting ripped off when buying LSD? [Re: CosmicFish]
    #5377457 - 03/08/06 01:16 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Actually, thats not true these days any more. There are a number of DOx compounds that can fit onto blotter paper in active dosages.

Generally speaking - RC blotters tend to be a bit larger than your normal LSD blotter. However, DOx compounds and 5-meo-AMT can be found on blotter papper.

Its generally thicker than normal, and will have a strong and very noticable chemical/bitter taste.

So, if

If a 'single hit' of the blotter is really big, or, if you're told to "eat 4 or 5 for a trip" (so, an active dose may of fit on 1 hit, but spread over 4), or its unusually thick, and/or has a strong chemical taste (a slight metallic taste can happen with LSD - but it shouldnmt be unusually bitter).

Sure, back in the 60s or 70s - it was either LSD or it was bunk, as these compounds were not around. But these days, that blanket statement doesnt really apply anymore.


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Re: How can I avoid getting ripped off when buying LSD? [Re: CosmicFish]
    #5377467 - 03/08/06 01:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Hmm, the acid I'm supposedly getting tomorrow, I was told I'd need 2 hits to trip off it. Sign of an RC? The kid who is getting it for me is a good friend of my gf and he says, hes picking up for himself as well. Also he says his friends have tried it and say it is acid. I'm still a bit skeptical though.


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Re: How can I avoid getting ripped off when buying LSD? [Re: Animals]
    #5377500 - 03/08/06 01:28 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

well, I've had definate LSD I've need two hits to trip off of, but that just meant it was real weak...


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Re: How can I avoid getting ripped off when buying LSD? [Re: Kaleidoscope]
    #5377575 - 03/08/06 01:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I've also heard it shouldn't really taste like anything if it's real LSD. Whereas RC's can have a funky taste.


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Re: How can I avoid getting ripped off when buying LSD? [Re: Fruitboot]
    #5377930 - 03/08/06 03:21 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Well, some times you can just get weak blotter - and really do need 2 or 3 hits for a good trip.

I generally find, even if the blotter is 'good', I'll need 2-3 hits to get a level of trip that I enjoy. I find low-dose LSD trips to be more annoying than enjoyable.

and hell - even if its a RC and not LSD - you'll still trip :P


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Re: How can I avoid getting ripped off when buying LSD? [Re: duggan18]
    #5378004 - 03/08/06 03:58 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

The most efficient way of telling if what you are being sold is bunk or not is to watch the dude selling it to ya.

Ask them as many questions about the product as possible. Read their body language. If you get a bad feeling about the deal then just don't do it. This is your safety after all.


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Re: How can I avoid getting ripped off when buying LSD? [Re: FlusH]
    #5378562 - 03/08/06 06:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Well. Some signs of what you buying /COULD/ be bunk (not 100% tell-tale signs, but good indicators)

- the size of the hits are bigger than normal. The hit should be smaller than your pinky finger nail.
- the paper looks really thick, or, like two pieces of paper 'glued' together.
- or, your dealer says "try eating like, 15 for a trip" *note: if its just weak acid, you may need to take 2-3 hits for a good trip anyways. But, if you find yourself having to eat ALOT of paper to trip, and espically if this paper tastes REALLY bad ... its a good indicator its not LSD

A popular way of laying RCs is to put it between two sheets of paper, then using something to stick them together. LSD is not layed this way.

and, if you have already purchased the blotter and are about to trip from it

- if it has a very strong chemical taste. If it tastes SO bitter that you feel like you need to swallow or spit it out right away because it tastes so bad, theres a damn good chance its not LSD.

Legit LSD can have a bit of a taste - but its more of a faint metallic taste or maybe a touch bitter. But, it shouldnt be overtly bitter to the point of disgust.

Personnaly, what I would suggest if buying from a new source for the first time.

- Only buy 1-2 hits. Really, are you /that/ hard up for cash that losing $10-$20 bucks is a big deal? If losing $20 bucks is an earth-shatterng loss, you shouldnt be spending money on drugs anyways.

- Ask the dealer alot of questions about the LSD. Ask if he's done it before, ask how good it was, ask what the visuals were like, ask questions about the come up / peak / duration - see how quickly he is able to answer them, and how much it matches up with what 'real' LSD should be like.

If he says "oh, the come up is a few hours, and the trip lasted like, 20 hours" - thats a good chance it's an RC. But, if its "ooh, about an hour until the peak, 12 hour smooth ride" - more likely to be LSD.

*note: on low dose LSD trips, it can take a bit longer for the come up and first effects to be noticed, if its really weak blotter it could be as long as 2 hours untill you really start to feel things.

and, once you have those 1 or 2 hits. Do 1, or both of them at the same time - judge by the stuff said above about bitterness/size/etc - and if things all seem good in that regard, keep on sucking them and wait till the trip starts.

If they are big, or bitter, or whatver - well, spit them out if you are really that opposed to doing a RC. Or, keep on sucking and enjoy whatever ride comes next.

With RCs on blotters - in the 1-2 hit range, chances are you are not going to run into any real major problems. Worse case situation, you  get something that lasts like 20 hours - but you are not going to come into any 'health risk' issues (well, as far as RCs go).

The risk with RCs on blotters - is more - "Oh, this is LSD I think" - eating a 20 at once thinking its LSD and 100% safe - but, there are RCs which can be very unsafe if you were to take that much at once - and there are some very real health risks with ODing on research chems.

But, if your sticking to the 1-2 hit range to test the waters of a new  batch, there really isnt that much of a health risk with it. 

Or, you can always try the approach

"Are you 100% sure this is LSD? I dont mind if its DOB or DOI or something, I'll still buy it - I'd just like to know beforehand so I know what to expect" and see if they change their tune at all.

If it is a DOx and they are KNOWINGLY selling it as LSD - well, I wouldnt buy from someone lying like that anyways. But, they may be 'oh, ya, this is DO(whatever), and be honest"

But, you can run into the case where people are unknowingly selling something thats not LSD as LSD.

and well - my advice also : find a dealer who is also a tripper and sample their own product :smile:


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Re: How can I avoid getting ripped off when buying LSD? [Re: kaniz]
    #5379028 - 03/08/06 07:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Thats some good advise right there


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Re: How can I avoid getting ripped off when buying LSD? [Re: stemmer]
    #5381629 - 03/09/06 02:39 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

thanks for the advice. ill remember to ask alot of questions and remember what you told me.


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Re: How can I avoid getting ripped off when buying LSD? [Re: duggan18]
    #5382571 - 03/09/06 06:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

well the answer is simple

lsd blotter acid should glow under ultra violit light.

if it dont glow its a no go


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Re: How can I avoid getting ripped off when buying LSD? [Re: ihaveacow]
    #5382603 - 03/09/06 06:59 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

lots of thing glow under ultra violet light.
While if it doesnt glow - it may rule out LSD
If it does glow - it doesnt rule in LSD


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Re: How can I avoid getting ripped off when buying LSD? [Re: kaniz]
    #5382985 - 03/09/06 08:42 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I have tripped on acid about 70-80 times. I have always known what it was after taking even a very small amount of it. I eventually learned to not feel the need to test them depending on the source. Most people know acid when they take it. Most of my dealers knew exactly what they were talking about, and knew they would hear about it later if they were dishonest. Nothing out there feels very much like LSD.

ONE time I did get large red geltabs(although geltabs are usually the most potent and a sure thing). My friend bought them for me.
They were soft and not one bit normal. Gels shouldnt be that big, but I ate them anyways. Yep....they were RC's and I have no idea which one. I ate two of these bad boys and tripped very hard, but in a very speedy way, a way that almost resembled DXM. We had a good time but knew within an hour while walking through the forest, these are some funky tabs. The come on took longer too.
There were alot of qualities about the experience that were less interesting than if I had taken lsd. There were a few that were very interesting and different. The visuals were like a matrix of clear cut chains. We knew it was not lsd after about a half hour. It was still very enjoyable, but our capasity to speak suffered as well as many other things. IT was really boring considering how hard we were tripping. Out of about 80 trips, I would have expected atleast one to be an RC.


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Re: How can I avoid getting ripped off when buying LSD? [Re: stemmer]
    #5383163 - 03/09/06 09:45 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

One almost sure-fire way, that I can usually tell if the dealer's honest or not is by asking for contact information. Tell him you'd like to buy ahit, but before acutally purchasing it, ask for his cell phone number. If he says he doesn't have any way you can contact him, chances are he's selling bunk acid. There is the slight chance that he is telling the truth and really doesn't have a way for you to contact him, but almost everytime a dealer around these parts (Bay Area) has said they don't have a cell phone number you can reach them at they've been selling fake doses. So I usually buy one hit just to make sure. I've also never been given a fake number, so I pretty much ignore that as a possibillity.


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Re: How can I avoid getting ripped off when buying LSD? [Re: duggan18]
    #5383183 - 03/09/06 09:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I also really try to take cues from there personality. Almsot all acid dealers are going to look burntout and pretty shady, but there general attitude can give away hints about whether what there selling is real or not. First off, hwo does he introduce himself? All the legit dealers I've met tell me there name and make general conversation with me. They usually are very approachable, friendly people. All the dealers I've bought from selling fake shit usually seem paranoid and somewhat guarded. After you've been buying for a while, you'll start to pick up on these traits and hints.

One important rule is never judge acid by what it's printed on. Some of the best acid going around right now is unperforated, white-on-white.


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Re: How can I avoid getting ripped off when buying LSD? [Re: dedjam]
    #23015556 - 03/17/16 03:57 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

How can i know the cook? What if i live far away from labs, cookers, etc?


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