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theuser
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Hey you religios nut jobs, stop fucking things up please. ;(
#5376982 - 03/08/06 09:29 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11726601/
Is just another story of scarey, bad things hidden behind a false idol. The idea of religion is harming our world and if you don't see that you are fucking blind.
I don't care who you are. It's bullshit and you KNOW it.
You all are keeping humanity from greatness by your primitive, fear driven, delusions.
/rant off.
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fireworks_god
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Re: Hey you religios nut jobs, stop fucking things up please. ;( [Re: theuser]
#5377151 - 03/08/06 10:24 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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It is these people who are keeping humanity from greatness, or is it those people who suspossedly do understand, but yet choose to lash out at misguided people who need assistance instead of blame?
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Rono
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Re: Hey you religios nut jobs, stop fucking things up please. ;( [Re: theuser]
#5377166 - 03/08/06 10:31 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I couldn't disagree more...
While I would not consider myself a religous person, I think the belief that there is something more or a higher power than us is EXACTLY what the world needs. You are using a relatively small example to describe ALL religions, and appearing very intolerant and unable to grasp any other opinion than yours in the process.
If science is your religion, then it is hardly any better than any other religion...what has science brought us? Nuclear weapons, Mass Media to dull the senses of the general populace, Ozone depletion...I could go on forever...Organized Religion in my opinion is not much better. So the answer must lie somewhere inbetween the two...
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fireworks_god
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Re: Hey you religios nut jobs, stop fucking things up please. ;( [Re: Rono]
#5377207 - 03/08/06 10:54 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Rono said: I think the belief that there is something more or a higher power than us is EXACTLY what the world needs.
Delusion and ignorance go hand-in-hand, and the delusion you describe is on a grand scale. I've never heard of delusion and/or ignorance as being beneficial. 
We need truth. Truth is exactly what the world needs, in order for ourselves to realize our situation and to better it. We don't begin to understand by holding unsubstantiated beliefs. 
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what has science brought us? Nuclear weapons, Mass Media to dull the senses of the general populace, Ozone depletion...
Science has not produced such. Our own ignorance/disregard for long-term cause and effect has produced the results that have sprung forth. I don't point to a gun and proclaim "Look what this gun has brought us! War! Murder! Death!".
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Ego Death
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Re: Hey you religios nut jobs, stop fucking things up please. ;( [Re: theuser]
#5377236 - 03/08/06 11:10 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I agree, it is all bullshit.
Funny - I just made a similar post before I read this.
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Ego Death
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Re: Hey you religios nut jobs, stop fucking things up please. ;( [Re: Rono]
#5377256 - 03/08/06 11:16 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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No we don't need that belief.
You think people can't handle the truth?
I mean which religion should I choose? Theres hundreds of them - then we can spend the rest of the time seperating ourselves and fighting over whose right! Hmmmmm....
Thats whats wrong with people in power - they feed people what they think they want to hear. Instead of giving people everything they need to make their own informed judgements.
People don't need false belief systems, they need to be told honestly and without bias, how the world is.
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Grok
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Re: Hey you religios nut jobs, stop fucking things up please. ;( [Re: Ego Death]
#5377306 - 03/08/06 11:45 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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People don't need to be told shit. We all just need to think for ourselves and let everyone else do the same. It is when other people are thinking for us that these problems arise.
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Rono
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Re: Hey you religios nut jobs, stop fucking things up please. ;( [Re: Grok]
#5377363 - 03/08/06 12:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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cilosyb said: People don't need to be told shit. We all just need to think for ourselves and let everyone else do the same. It is when other people are thinking for us that these problems arise.
Bingo
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Re: Hey you religios nut jobs, stop fucking things up please. ;( [Re: Rono]
#5377749 - 03/08/06 02:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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'End of Faith'
I finished this not too long ago, very good read.
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MushmanTheManic
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Re: Hey you religios nut jobs, stop fucking things up please. ;( [Re: theuser]
#5377782 - 03/08/06 02:44 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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The idea of religion is harming our world and if you don't see that you are fucking blind.
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Rono
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Re: Hey you religios nut jobs, stop fucking things up please. ;( [Re: MushmanTheManic]
#5377819 - 03/08/06 02:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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How does something like Buddhism for example harm the world?
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MarkostheGnostic
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Re: Hey you religios nut jobs, stop fucking things up please. ;( [Re: theuser]
#5377863 - 03/08/06 03:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Could this be an answer to the priestly abuse of children?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4748292.stm
Maybe not, it's not fair to other sub-humans.
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dblaney
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Re: Hey you religios nut jobs, stop fucking things up please. ;( [Re: Rono]
#5377871 - 03/08/06 03:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well Buddhism isn't really a religion. In fact it's called the religion of no religion.
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I_was_the_walrus
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Re: Hey you religios nut jobs, stop fucking things up please. ;( [Re: dblaney]
#5377958 - 03/08/06 03:39 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well personally I think pointing fingers and ridiculing others beliefs makes you no better then the religious nuts.
Your so sure of your answers and opinions, well so are they. When it comes to the "big picture", you're just as ignorant.
Prove to me there's no god. Prove to me there is.
Prove to me any choice we currently make on this planet matters at all in the end. War is bad...killing is bad and so forth. Prove to me we didn't standardize that long ago and forgot the option of "maybe it isn't".
All I'm saying is we know just as much as the religious nuts. Why are we so sure of our answers? Why are they so sure of their answers?
Why must we ridicule the opposite?
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blaze2
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Re: Hey you religios nut jobs, stop fucking things up please. ;( [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
#5377988 - 03/08/06 03:54 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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So we need the truth huh? what is the truth about things that NO human will ever know? Your truth and my truth can be entirely different. I hate organized religion dont get me wrong and if you take only those people as religious then yes your statement makes sense. But if you in your infinite intelligence can see that someone can believe in God and NOT have an agenda then how can that be wrong? its just an idea.
Be mad at the humans who are sheep adn teh wolves that lead them astray, but do not be angry at the idea of God or the idea of something beyond the norm. I dont ask you to believe yourself, but only allow others the right to their own beliefs. God doesnt care how you worship, or what you call him. He doesnt even care if you consciencely admit his existince. And that is not how he judges, he judges by your acts, and works. How you treat people. Even people you dont exactly like or get along with. This is how poeple should look at each other but as many have been brainwashed by the church, there is little hope of that.
My point is dont hate God, Hate the people who twist his love.
Oh yea and BTW, Budda is as much of a religion as Christianity is, after all both preached the same virtures in man.
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Re: Hey you religios nut jobs, stop fucking things up please. ;( [Re: theuser]
#5378123 - 03/08/06 04:33 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have no problem with religion or the majority of religious people. They is a select group of religious people who I do have a problem with, though, and those people are not only hindering the progress of mankind, but relations between non-religious and religious people.
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Ravus
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Re: Hey you religios nut jobs, stop fucking things up please. ;( [Re: Rono]
#5378162 - 03/08/06 04:40 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Rono said: I couldn't disagree more...
While I would not consider myself a religous person, I think the belief that there is something more or a higher power than us is EXACTLY what the world needs. You are using a relatively small example to describe ALL religions, and appearing very intolerant and unable to grasp any other opinion than yours in the process.
If science is your religion, then it is hardly any better than any other religion...what has science brought us? Nuclear weapons, Mass Media to dull the senses of the general populace, Ozone depletion...I could go on forever...Organized Religion in my opinion is not much better. So the answer must lie somewhere inbetween the two...
Science brings us knowledge.
Greed, capitalism, hatred and nationalistic fury bring us war, pollution and environmental damage.
Science brings us more knowledge to help us fix our fuck-ups.
Religion, on the other hand, does what? I concede that it probably used to be helpful for human survival when we were living in tribes and the most tightly-knit, courageous tribes spread more with the use of rituals, religion, etc., but that is a relic from another dead age.
How can knowledge be a religion? Doesn't a religion require blind faith, while science is the exact antithesis of blind faith?
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Xanthas
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Re: Hey you religios nut jobs, stop fucking things up please. ;( [Re: blaze2]
#5378206 - 03/08/06 04:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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blaze2 said: My point is dont hate God, Hate the people who twist his love.
Oh yea and BTW, Budda is as much of a religion as Christianity is, after all both preached the same virtures in man.
I think the distinction is more about theist belief vs pantheist belief. Xianity is about theism, and Buddhism is a form of pantheism.
And they definitely do NOT teach the same values. The bible is a book so full of utter crap, contradictions, and evil as much as it is good that one can "prove" any point one wants to with it. Half that book (including NT stuff, though the OT is, admittedly, more evil-concentrated) is full of "holy" slaughter and retardism.
My problem with religion, especially theism (Which Xianity is), is that it dulls the critical thinking faculty. It encourages faith, which is a bunk way of "knowing" anything. This is a physical world, and those that don't subscribe to a physical view of it will be very much out of synch with how it actually is.
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Re: Hey you religios nut jobs, stop fucking things up please. ;( [Re: Rono]
#5378452 - 03/08/06 05:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Religion is the cause of a lot of shit, but you can't generalize that to individuals.
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If science is your religion, then it is hardly any better than any other religion...what has science brought us? Nuclear weapons, Mass Media to dull the senses of the general populace, Ozone depletion...I could go on forever...Organized Religion in my opinion is not much better. So the answer must lie somewhere inbetween the two...
If science is your religion, you don't understand science.
Science has given us a lot of things that can be used in an evil way, but I see way more positive things. Electricity, computers, internet, cameras, medicine, surgery, cars, airplanes, movies, plastic, etc, etc, etc. You can live twice as long due to science. You have free time to post here or do other things you like due to science. You have the time, information and background to think about this due to science.
Would you like to live in a world without all things that are a direct cause of science?
Would you like to live in a world without all things that are a direct cause of religions?
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Rono
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Re: Hey you religios nut jobs, stop fucking things up please. ;( [Re: Annom]
#5378538 - 03/08/06 06:12 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Would you like to live in a world without all things that are a direct cause of science?
Would you like to live in a world without all things that are a direct cause of religions?
My answer to both questions is "no"...hence my my statement..."So the answer must lie somewhere inbetween the two..."
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