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How about them peyotes eh
    #5376703 - 03/08/06 07:03 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

So I just planted 100 peyote seeds. 30 was a bluish green variant from Cardona , mexico, and 30 seeds is to a bluish tinted from Huizache in Mexico also. 20 Seeds is to a unknown peyote variant bought from a netherland seed vendor. 10 seeds was labeled Lophophora williamsii ?frici?and the last 10 was labeled Lophophora williamsii v. decipiens. I was most curious about the Lophophora williamsii v. decipiens, when its a v. decipiens is that a true peyote, active? they are supposedly smaller than the other variants i planted. Anyone know anything about it? and info on the `frici`variant is wanted also. Can these two be used for entheogenic purposes ?


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Re: How about them peyotes eh [Re: shriek]
    #5376750 - 03/08/06 07:43 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Lophophora williamsii is the true peyote.


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Re: How about them peyotes eh [Re: Taskenti]
    #5376774 - 03/08/06 08:01 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yes i realize that. but a psilocybe cubensis v. cambodian is also a true cubensis to take another example. what is the diffrence here. they are lophophora williamsii, but what is the diffrence between a williamsi v. whatever and a williamsii `something`. is the last just a name given to a peyote.. like I can collect seeds from a wild peyote and call them l. williamsii `shriek` or l. williamsii v. shriek.. or are they hybrids?


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Re: How about them peyotes eh [Re: shriek]
    #5376844 - 03/08/06 08:35 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Oh, I have no clue. lol. Sorry


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Re: How about them peyotes eh [Re: Taskenti]
    #5376922 - 03/08/06 09:07 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Fricii isn't a williamsii at all. It's a different species. I don't think you'd ideally use it for an enthogen, but maybe I'm wrong.

decipiens is indeed a variant of williamsii.

Sounds like some great seeds. I'd love some blue ones. Nothing like a nice blue cactus, especially peyote.


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Re: How about them peyotes eh [Re: shriek]
    #5377687 - 03/08/06 02:21 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Variant (Var.) is when it is the same species but usually has some visual differences.


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Re: How about them peyotes eh [Re: Stonerguy]
    #5378320 - 03/08/06 05:21 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

actualy there is some discussion going on about decipiens.
some people are of the oppinion that its actualy its own species
and if im not mistaken there has recently been a change in its status.

ive observed that decipiens is slightly darker in color, and my 1 y/o
seedlings are slightly cone shaped compared to a more round difusa and a flat williamsii.

decipiens has the same alcaloid content as williamsii.


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Re: How about them peyotes eh [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #5379075 - 03/08/06 08:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

If you are growing these for eating, its going to be a while. Peyote grow pretty slow...


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Re: How about them peyotes eh [Re: thelorax121]
    #5380103 - 03/09/06 02:23 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

thanks for the info. :smile:

yes i intend to eat several og these and i know how slow they grow. i will graft some as well. but i dont expect to die anytime soon, i intend to have some of these in 40-50 years if i live that long :wink:


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Re: How about them peyotes eh [Re: shriek]
    #5380214 - 03/09/06 03:34 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

:rolleyes: ...I don't think they take that long to grow.


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Re: How about them peyotes eh [Re: Dragonaut]
    #5380292 - 03/09/06 05:35 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

well of corise i kno w that ,m dont intent to eat 100 peyotes in 10 years, i want to have some my whole life and my daughter can have them when i die. see you dont have to eat everything because they have mescaline :P some i will have together with the rest of my cactus collection not for consumption


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Re: How about them peyotes eh [Re: shriek]
    #5384206 - 03/10/06 02:29 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

The whole name issue is quite difficult with lophophora. Since i don't grow them to consume it doesn't matter that much to me. I label the plants with name, variety and supplier to make it easier to distinguish them.
For Instance the fricii seeds from the one supplier grew up to totally different plants than those from another supplier.


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