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PF bfr verm produces week mushrooms
    #5376368 - 03/07/06 11:40 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

ya new to growning
grew b+ and z on brf cakes
good harves nice very blue mushhys
but not very potent
went up to consuming about 80 grams fresh
and not really that blown away
why are they so week yet soo blue brusing
working on rye 50/50 casing now
should i expect more potency
what is the most super potent tek for cubys


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Re: PF bfr verm produces week mushrooms *DELETED* [Re: nice]
    #5376386 - 03/07/06 11:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: PF bfr verm produces week mushrooms [Re: HippieChick]
    #5376668 - 03/08/06 06:03 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

brf produces potent shroomage,
as potent as any other substrate.
potency has very little to do with substrate choice.


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Re: PF bfr verm produces week mushrooms [Re: Hippie3]
    #5376803 - 03/08/06 08:13 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Hippie, I thought it was more substrate than other factors when determining projected and actualized potency~
If I'm mistaken, then what other factors influence potency more than the substrate? Thanks.


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Re: PF bfr verm produces week mushrooms [Re: doubledutch]
    #5376815 - 03/08/06 08:23 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i dont belive the statement "brf results are weak", ive had tons of brf results in my lifetime that blew me away. To say that they are weak is not true, but to say its not the best way to recieve the best end results.....now that may be true.


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Re: PF bfr verm produces week mushrooms [Re: RemainRandom50]
    #5376892 - 03/08/06 08:55 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

my buddy used brf/verm and they came out nice. i usually eat about 2gs dried. i had 12 grams undried and tripped balls...


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Re: PF bfr verm produces week mushrooms [Re: weedpreference]
    #5376913 - 03/08/06 09:03 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

It seems BRF is hit or miss for people. Ive NEVER had anything good off of BRF. Switched to hpoo and solved that problem though. A gram or so of those will knock ya on your ass.

BUT, ive had friends that did the PF Tek and came out with a nice dose that worked for them.

Substrait will make all the difference though because that is where you are getting your nutes. The more nutes, the more potentcy.


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Re: PF bfr verm produces week mushrooms [Re: dedjam]
    #5377003 - 03/08/06 09:35 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

BRF results are far from weak my friend...some of my brf mushies were just as potent as my poo shrooms...some had no difference some were a lil less potent but the brf are up there with the poo..the key to getting good brf shrooms is "grinding your own brf" i realized this over the months :smile: try it and find the big difference in results :smile:


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Re: PF bfr verm produces week mushrooms [Re: nice]
    #5377025 - 03/08/06 09:44 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Use hpoo, horse manuer. From comments of other members it increases potency greatly. its the substrate that determines the potency, and in most cases the yeild. Were do mushrooms natrually accure?...POO. hpoo is the best, you get better shrooms using hpoo, then you would verm/brf. . just search the post for the hpoo tek. also did you tri slicing them up in some lemon juice? I heard it increases the effects of the shroomies.


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Re: PF bfr verm produces week mushrooms [Re: nice]
    #5377049 - 03/08/06 09:53 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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nice said:
ya new to growning
grew b+ and z on brf cakes
good harves nice very blue mushhys
but not very potent
went up to consuming about 80 grams fresh
and not really that blown away
why are they so week yet soo blue brusing
working on rye 50/50 casing now
should i expect more potency
what is the most super potent tek for cubys




not very potent because your mushrooms aren't eating very well. poo has more nutrient in it and therefore has more nutrients for the mushrooms to consume inturn makeing them more potent.

i have always favored rye. you will have an increase in potency from rye but poo with blood meal is better.


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Re: PF bfr verm produces week mushrooms [Re: thenewguy05]
    #5377143 - 03/08/06 10:23 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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The more nutes, the more potentcy.




simply untrue, no science to back that statement.
if all one wanted was maximum nutes
we'd grow them on steak.
but the nutes in manure or straw are quite low
yet still give good shrooms.
the rice in brf is far more nutritious
than manure or straw.


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Re: PF bfr verm produces week mushrooms [Re: Hippie3]
    #5377158 - 03/08/06 10:27 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

last i knew steak wasn't a fruitable substrate


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Re: PF bfr verm produces week mushrooms [Re: Hippie3]
    #5377174 - 03/08/06 10:36 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

More nutritious for animals. If you haven't noticed mushrooms have a slightly different makeup than humans.


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Re: PF bfr verm produces week mushrooms [Re: HippieChick]
    #5377211 - 03/08/06 10:56 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

If it gets YOU wet....I'm all for it :smile:

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Re: PF bfr verm produces week mushrooms [Re: thenewguy05]
    #5377212 - 03/08/06 10:58 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

would hpoo, and rye be a good mixture. and where would someone go about finding some rye?


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Re: PF bfr verm produces week mushrooms [Re: SciaticGryphon]
    #5377237 - 03/08/06 11:10 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i like rye and poo. i've heard of it being mixed dry rye into pasteurized poo.

I do a suppliment at casing with rye flour in the coco coir, vermiculite, and calcium carbonate.

you can find rye at a local feed store or a local health food store. people who are gung-hoe about organic foods will know all about rye.


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Re: PF bfr verm produces week mushrooms [Re: SciaticGryphon]
    #5377239 - 03/08/06 11:11 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Hippie, im surprised, of all people you should know that manure has a higher nitrogen content then basic substrates. 

Im also super surprised that you think BRF mushrooms are as potent as Hpoo mushrooms.  I used to be able to chomp down 10 grams of BRF with no problem, now i have a hard time handling 3.5 gms in one go. :shrug:


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Re: PF bfr verm produces week mushrooms [Re: coda]
    #5377280 - 03/08/06 11:28 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

its not the substrait check your drying tek. excessive blueness=bad
quick dry then with low heat..


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Re: PF bfr verm produces week mushrooms [Re: bongtoke]
    #5377360 - 03/08/06 12:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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bongtoke said:
..the key to getting good brf shrooms is "grinding your own brf" i realized this over the months :smile: try it and find the big difference in results :smile:




Once again this is really hit or miss or so it seems. Ive never done anything but grind my own BRF, and have tried different brands from different stores...all with the same results: extremely non-potent shrooms.

It didnt work for me so I found something that did: hpoo! But hell, if something works for you all the more reason to continue using it.


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Re: PF bfr verm produces week mushrooms [Re: coda]
    #5377417 - 03/08/06 12:49 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

if someone sells jars of brf then someone might want people to think they produce potent shrooms.


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